Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Doj.png

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Most federal government images are in the public domain, but this image, as a logo of the Justice Department, is not, as indicated on their own site at [1] and the section directly below it. Chaser 03:27, 7 August 2007 (UTC) OK. I guess I got this one wrong. Withdrawing. Thanks everybody.--Chaser 00:02, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Restrictions may apply, but they're not copyright restrictions. I don't know what the template is to mark official seals, but they're allowable here. (Consider Image:Coca-Cola logo.svg, for example.) grendel|khan 21:43, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Department of Justice seals, logos and other official insignia may not be used or reproduced without written permission that sounds like a pretty restrictive restriction Madmax32 03:06, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Info: Yes, but they're part of the U.S. federal government--by law, no matter how much they may want their official works to be protected by copyright, they're simply not. If there are other protections, they're almost certainly the sort that the Commons doesn't delete pictures over. While it's odd to find a U.S. government site engaging in copyfraud, the fact is that they simply cannot claim copyright over this image. grendel|khan 04:34, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • I think according to their website it's just copyright but the US law restricts the use of the logos of the DOJ 18 U.S.C. sec. 709, which prohibits their unauthorized use in a manner calculated to convey the impression that such use is approved, endorsed, or authorized by that component, unless written permission has been received from the head of the respective component Madmax32 15:48, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Isn't that why we have {{insignia}}? (Finally found the right tag for those sorts of things.) grendel|khan 16:37, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep They aren't claiming copyright. There are legal restrictions on the use of U.S. government seals (most of them anyways) similar to trademark; you can't use them to imply a connection between the government department and any other organization without permission. The same is true of many state seals (by law U.S. governments cannot trademark seals, so there are usually specific laws to obtain similar protection). So while the seal is public domain from a copyright status, its use is heavily restricted. Wikimedia just needs to make sure its use does not violate the law. The image itself is as free as it's possible to be under the law. Carl Lindberg 14:33, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kept. Lupo 08:49, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]