Fadix

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Thanks for deleting it

It is much appreciated. Fadix 01:56, 8 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

I did not get it deleted because of your request or rfc (which I did not care to read). It would probably survive a vote but to my suprise the RfAr was closed. --Cool Cat Talk 14:36, 8 October 2005 (UTC)Reply
It was 15-7(71% delete), so I would not be so quick. But anyways, thanks regardless. Fadix 16:26, 8 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Armenian language

Hi, usually I deal with turkish nationalism at Armenian_quote or de:Diskussion:Völkermord_an_den_Armeniern (de: talk on Armenian Genocide); today its with the Armenian kind, I guess. You may want to have a look at this . Nothing serious, but annoying: somebody wants to negate the last millenium's foreign linguistic influence on the Armenian language, namely Turkish influence on its phonology, only some merely lexical interchange with the Greeks seem acceptable to him: Greek seems to be the most closely related to Old Armenian with some Greek words borrowed from Armenian. I should be surprised to see that there's more Armenian words in the Greek language than viceversa... I don't speak Armenian, but the IP editor doesn't cite sources, his predecessors did. --Tickle me 17:15, 8 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

I hate languistic discussions. :(
One form or the other, neither version is really NPOV, it presents a thesis as truth anyway. Proper way would be "according to Mr. blabla, this is..." Now, about the phonetic, there is two major Armenian phonetics, Western and Eastern Armenians, there is also the old Grabar. While Western Armenian phonetic has been influenced by Turkish,(but more from Ottoman Turkish, which is different than modern Turkish, and had mixtures of other languages like Arabic). Eastern Armenian phonetic, has been much more influenced from Persian. In the beggining of the last century, Armenian was classified by specialists as a form of Persian. Zazas, on the other hand, were considered Armenian dialect by some. "Hurro-Urartian Borrowings in Old Armenian" by Diakonoff(Journal of the American Oriental Society, 1985), provides also examples of Urartian influences. I would suggest the book, The Phonology of Armenian by Bert Vaux; Oxford University, 1998. About the Greek word stuff, some barrowed words, are neither barrowed from one or the other, but more to do with the Indo-European structure of both languages.(but, it is commonly accepted that there are more Greek words barrowed in Armenian, than the other way around, more particularly religious terms etc.)
I am always suspicious of anonymous(IP), participating in discussions. They don't bother registering but will confront others. I don't know what to propose to you here, I hate debating over language related topic, because there are clear oppositions between one specialist and the other,... and it would be a very difficult task to write an encyclopedic text. I'll see what I can do, maybe invite someone that knows the subject, that will be willing to participate.
Sorry to bother again with Armenian_language, but this has nothing to do with a linguistic discussion at the moment; the IP is turning wild, keeps on deleting any reference to Turkish influence and vandalises the talk page deleting old contributions it doesn't like. Besides, the IP seems not to be responsive to arguing or thought, to put it politely. Do you know a admin that could tell him how we handle stuff? He doesn't believe me a word and doesn't read anything anyway, besides he keeps calling for monitoring himself. --Tickle me 10:22, 13 October 2005 (UTC)Reply
There are two Admins that do handle such articles pretty well. You could maybe contact dab and El C.
Also, I am really tired explaining to those that don't understand what Neutral point of view means. I advance again my position that someone that doesn't understand what it is, should refrain editing articles. Also, again, this confirm my theory, that those that refuse to register an account are not interested to justify their edits, neither read users comments. Fadix 17:23, 13 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Barnstar

Thank you Fadix for the barnstar. I really appreciate it, and I will add it to my userpage soon :-).--Wiglaf 07:30, 9 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

The pleasure is all mine. You are in my top 5 lists of exceptional contributors. Fadix 19:06, 9 October 2005 (UTC)Reply
Merci encore Fadix.--Wiglaf 21:58, 9 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Encyclopedic standards

Thanks for the note. Wikipedia:Forum for encyclopedic standards is still active. It's just that there hasn't been a discussion started on it in a while. But if you have any ideas, many people have the page on their watchlists, so you should be able to get a lot of feedback. 172 | Talk 09:04, 11 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, I will. Fadix 18:43, 11 October 2005 (UTC)Reply



Hi Fadix, I am an Armenian, I was reading your page and I saw that you are interested in the denial of the Armenian Genocide. And Vahakin Dadrian. And I must say that your entry on Armenian Population, and Casualties, are very useful.

Now I wanted to ask you, is your research about "specific" revisionists, or the Denial in general ? If specific, who are the revisionists of your interest ?

Both, there are revisionists that I have read any materials about the subject they wrote. Justin McCarthy, is the one, I have done the most research about, of course there are others like Shaw and his wife Ezel Kural, but Shaw is a clear fraud, having plagiated from a Turkish scholar, and claiming it being his 20 years research, and since he doesn't really publish new materials, I am not really interested in him anymore. If you have any questions about McCarthy, I don't want to be an arrogant :), but you can hardly find anyone as knowledgeble as me about his "researches." Fadix 18:43, 11 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Old Generation

Interesting, I'll make sure to turn to you if I have any question about McCarthy. You were saying that Shaw isn't producing any new stuff, well it seems that almost all of this revisionist's Generation isn't producing anything new, just copying on others before. So if one revisionist say something, they all go use it in there books without bothering to check or find how strong or weak that argument is.

I learned that you had few words with that holdwater thing. I was wondering do you have any idea who in hell is he ? I mean as you learned the revisionists styles. I'm suspecting someone, but I'm not sure.

Thanks,

Maral

Who he is, isen't important at all. I have debated with him in another forum, and the debate was brought here too.(he has an account at Wikipedia, with the lias "Torque") Fadix 18:31, 15 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

More personal attacks by User:Cool Cat

Please see: Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek/mentorship#More personal attacks by User:Cool Cat. — Davenbelle 06:16, 15 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

I'll trust his mentors dealings with him. I'm not wasting my time again. He has wasted enough of my time, sorry. Fadix 18:29, 15 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

OK,OK=

Let's just be Wiki-friends, please. icut4u

Barnstarification

Thanks! I'm thrilled to see likeminded contributors come to Wikipedia and work very hard to produce the articles I've always felt Wikipedia should have (see WP:MCOTW). I'll move the barnstar to the relevant area on my userpage. JFW | T@lk 02:05, 21 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

RFC re Tony

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Tony Sidaway 2. — Davenbelle 07:57, 22 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

RfA

I thought that you might be interested in a specific RfA, which is avaliable for your consideration here: Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Cool Cat -- Karl Meier 20:39, 23 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

And BTW, I was "stalking" you the other day, and this looks really interesting. I look forward to see it finished someday, and to translate and add the article into my own Danish Wikipedia. I don't know enough about the topic to write anything myself, so it's nice to be able to leech from the works of the experts in this area! -- Karl Meier 20:49, 23 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

It will take some time to complete it I'm afraid. Fadix 21:28, 23 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Thank you

Thank you very much for you know what. ;) --a.n.o.n.y.m t 01:30, 24 October 2005 (UTC) Reply

French translation request

Hi. As you speak French I thought that you might be able to help me translate a few words and short sentences. These were taken from the inner sleeves of a French compilation called V.I.S.A. Present and I’m about to publish an article about it, but first I need to understand a few lines of text so that I can go ahead. I will also publish an article about V.I.S.A. (the record label). So here I list what I need to know:

  • Beauvais: (I don’t know whether this is a name or what)…
  • Lee Mee: (I have the same doubt as above)…
  • Pile & Face:
  • Actuellemente sur Androidia Flux on trouve:
  • Épuisée:
  • À …xxxxx…. pour nous avoir aidé a mettré sur pied les concerts V.I.S.A.:

That’s all. I would be very grateful if you could help me with this. Kind regards, User:Luis María Benítez

Beauvais is not a word, but a family name, or a place(actually many places, like a cathedral, somewhere in France etc.)
I doubt Lee Mee is anything French, it seems to be some asiatic name or something.
There is Pile et Face, and Pile ou Face, if it is Pile & Face, it is a film by Peter Howitt, or maybe it is a band, an album name(trying to put it in context). Pile ou Face in its litherary meaning, it is the two faces of a coin, that one throws.
Actually, on Androidia Flux we find...
Épuisée can have many meanings. It can mean, someone really tired, it can also mean, when there is a product sold, that all have been sold and there is no left. We can use it when selling tickets for a concerts and that all the tickets have all been sold.
To xxxxx. Thanks for having helped us to prepare the V.I.S.A concerts.

Regards Fadix 17:19, 25 October 2005 (UTC)Reply



I'll take care next time,if there is one. Thank you anyway --Maral79 18:34, 26 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

It's OK!, removing what was already posted was not a good thing though, just be cautious of not copypasting long texts in future, unless they are not comming from the web. Fadix 18:39, 26 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Changing vote

Hi Fadix. Absolutely fine for you to feel the way you do. No problems with that, but I just want to point out that a lot of the evidence posted on the talk page is misleading. For one thing it was mostly reverting pov material and not actually adding it. The editor who posted the material has done a good job of making it biased, for what reason I don't know. Trust me, it usually takes a lot of pov pushing to get me to lose my cool. ;) See my contribs if you want or the links posted as evidence. I suggest looking at the links in the correct context, which is to see the edit history of the articles and the editor who I was having a conflict with. Thank you once again --a.n.o.n.y.m t 00:36, 27 October 2005 (UTC) Reply

Don't worry, I've been controversial myself and know how to deal with those stuff. I don't think less of you in anyway, being an nontheist/agnostic, your faith vs others faith won't change the direction of my thoughts. I just maintained neutrality, until things evolve a little bit. Just to let you know, that I have never supported anyone before you. Also, I do believe that you will be an OK admin, because of the controversies, which will force you to be more causious than the average admins. Fadix 00:53, 27 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the comments

I thought I moved them under the section dissolution. These issues can be easily expended under dissolution page, WITH your help ofcourse. I do not remmember what happaned to specific text later on. Just a reminder; these conflicting issues needs a lot of space, and Ottomans deserve an introductory page that is consize and clean as much as Armenians have. This does not mean I disapprove discussion of conflicts, but I disapprove at least doing it on the main page. ps:Ottomamns have 900 years of history, I bet I can fill that page without you text. I hope you can appreciate what I'm saying. Thanks. I will check on that later tommarrow, for a curtesy to you.

My RfA

Thank you for your comments. I was going to universally thank everybody afterwards, but wanted to tell you that I adjusted the content of my user page a little bit (I didn't want to change it all because I don't want to be seen as desperate or anything). Let me know if you have any more thoughts. I honestly didn't think my user page was that virulent, but you are probably right in retrospect. Shadt Shenoragalem... Ramallite (talk) 20:58, 3 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Merci - yete gernam oknem (hayagan-turkeren) batmutyouneh, eseh inzi oor! (Ayo Hayeren kitchme ge-hasqunam paytz chem gartal yev chem kurell) ! Ramallite (talk) 21:59, 3 November 2005 (UTC)Reply
One of the three languages of Jerusalem- how could I not? :) But I can only understand light conversation, and cannot read or write characters (don't even know what the letters are). But I'm constantly trying to expand. Next target: Greek! Ramallite (talk) 22:14, 3 November 2005 (UTC)Reply


Treaties

I noticed that the entery for "Treaty of San Stefano" and "Treaty of Berlin, 1878" , barely mention the Armenian issue. Can't we add some info. about that, i.e. articles of both treaties that concerns the Armenians of Ottoman Empire ? --Maral79 12:46, 6 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

In the current shape of the article, we can not because it will be misleading. Those two Treaty were much, much much more than covering the Armenians, both articles need to be expended, then perhaps we could add the Armenian cases. If we add the Armenian cases in its current shape, it will misrepresent both Treaties and fool the reader into believing that the Armenian issue was more incorporated in those Treaties then it really was. I'd probably expend those two articles if no one does it, but there are things that are before this in priority in my must do lists.

My RFA

Thank you very much for supporting my rather contentious request for adminship, but now that I've been promoted, I'd like to do a little dance here *DANCES*. If you have any specific issues/problems with me, please feel free to state them on my talk page so that I can work to prevent them in the future, and thanks once again!  ALKIVAR  07:33, 8 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Thanks

Thanks again for your support on my RfA, which finally passed today. I greatly appreciate your vote and your responses to some of the opposition. Kisher pari, Ramallite (talk) 03:56, 9 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Robert Smigel

re: "get a life" — not sure if you meant this as a quote, but many readers would think of this. See the 3rd paragraph. Best, Davenbelle 09:17, 9 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Hmmm... I don't understand. Fadix 19:39, 9 November 2005 (UTC)Reply
I was referring to this post of yours. I thought you might be interested in what others might well have read into it. — Davenbelle 03:50, 10 November 2005 (UTC)Reply
Hehe, how the heck you find such articles. :)
I saw the original broadcast and have known who Smigel is for as long. Chevy Chase was a Trek-Fan dressed up as SpockWilliam Shatner#Post-Star Trek career tore-off the cheesey fake-ears and told the bunch of fans to "Get a life" (and to find girls). — Davenbelle 04:10, 11 November 2005 (UTC)Reply
P.S. I'm reading Middlesex (novel) which includes an account of the The Burning of Smyrna. I've also just read your article on Armenian genocide denial; I look forward to it moving into the main article space. Best, Davenbelle 04:35, 10 November 2005 (UTC)Reply
It will take some time to finish that article. Fadix 21:24, 10 November 2005 (UTC)Reply
If you'd like, I'll work on it a bit. — Davenbelle 04:10, 11 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Got change opinion?

Hi, sorry to bother with something unrelated to your subjects of interest, but I'd like to have a clearthinkers view on this: category needed?, maybe I'm wrong or overly sensitive there. --tickle me 06:55, 10 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

my RFB

yeah I figured you wouldn't hold it against me. I hope you feel comfortable supporting me when I try again in the future. Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 07:52, 12 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Languages - hy

Hi there! Can you tell me what language hy stands for on your talk page? I am interested to know more about it, the script looks interesting! --HappyCamper 18:18, 12 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

WikiThanks

 
WikiThanks

The WikiThanks may be awarded as a way to say thank you to other Wikipedians.

Thank you for fixing spelling and grammer on my user page. I encourage you to do more fixes if you think they are necesary. Further more feel free to use/steal anything on my userpage ;) --Cool Cat Talk 18:57, 13 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Thanks Cool Cat

But there is nothing surprising in correcting grammar when I see them. Fad (ix) 01:43, 17 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

True but cleaning articles from spelling and grammer errors (copy editing) should be encouraged on every opertunity.
If you have the time, I welcome you to "copyedit" my userpage and/or this article Oh My Goddess!
Thats all I got for now. --Cool Cat Talk 10:03, 17 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Thanks

Thanks for supporting me for adminship. The RfA passed today. I look forward to working with you to make Wikipedia a better place. --Nlu 04:06, 19 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

fighting POV at Armenian language

Hi, fighting POV at Armenian_language is getting a full time job lately. To fight it off and to ease tensions alike, I made these changes today, using info & sources already present at the talk page:

Old:

According to Hans K. Vogt's article in the 1997 Britannica, "Whereas Old Armenian was rather close to ancient Greek in many respects, Modern Armenian is typologically much closer to Turkish".
Armenian is an Indo-European language, its phonology has been influenced by Persian and Caucasian languages.

New:

According to Hans K. Vogt's article in the 1997 Britannica, referring mainly to Western Armenian, "Whereas Old Armenian was rather close to ancient Greek in many respects, Modern Armenian is typologically much closer to Turkish".
Differing from classical Armenian and versions of Modern Armenian, which, according to Bert Vaux, where purefied due to political considerations, Western Armenian phonetics have been influenced by Turkish, mostly from Ottoman Turkish, whereas Persian affected Eastern Armenian. As result of the Caucasian Sprachbund, Caucasian languages had an impact as well, which explains that Armenian has the most peculiar phonology of all extant Indo-European languages.

It might be helpful if you could give something like an short Imprimatur at Talk:Armenian_language, correcting errors, if needed. Else, the vandals might start again. --tickle me 06:37, 19 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

I am just viewing my talk page right now, I am on a wiki vaccation for a week or so, when I come back I'll take a look. Regards Fad (ix) 15:20, 21 November 2005 (UTC)Reply
Greatings! I agree on your changes in the armenian language sctions. Thanks for refrasing that owful scentence about Armenian being typologicaly like Turkish. I still am in doubt about in what way did Voght mean typologicaly, knowing that typology could mean anything in this mather. I shall do my own reasearch though and upgrade that page a bit, becouse it still is a bit "misty" the aria about armenian being influenced by Caucasian languages. I my self come from Abchazia (west Georgia), so from the Caucasus it self. I heared a lot of languages thare but still can't pick any that sounds or writes even remotely like Armenian. But I'll see what I can find. --Pensamiento

categoty tags/subpage

Hi, your subpage is visible in Category:Genocides, could you please disable the categorisation like this [[:Category:Genocides]], thank you--–Gnomz007(?) 06:31, 20 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Did it myself–Gnomz007(?) 20:33, 20 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. Fad (ix) 15:21, 21 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Hi Fadix

GREAT that you are fighting this Turkish nationalist basterds. If thare is any way I could help PLEASE let me know!!! I'm not that good in English, but I can do good reasearch, know scientific refering and can be very annoing at times. I also have about 500 IP's at my disposal. :) Also I probably could find a way to block my IP, so I can Irritate some Turkish nationalists without me being kicked. Or is this all illigal hehe? But ok man, THANKS for fighting for our couse hehee! Shout if need any help from me!! --Pensamiento

Such behavours are unwelcome here. Either you're just a teen or an unmature adult, in both cases I don't want to be associated with your future conduct(which according to what you wrote, would cost you a ban, and being considered as a vandal). The next time you answer with the same crap, I will delete your posts from my talk page. Fad (ix) 15:26, 21 November 2005 (UTC)Reply
HEHEHE No I'm not a teener (am 22), but you could call me a bit imature if mature is speaking with inhibitions of your feelings. You could also just say it's illigal, there is no need for hostilaty. I'm just talking, I don't intend to put it in action if that would be something undesirable by you, even for the good couse. Just wanted to make that clear. No need to block me or somthing like that! I reason first befor act just so you know. I would think it's mature to ask before judge. But I understand your point either, you might not be taken seriously if you'd take on my offer. I understand No need to say anything! I see now it wouldn't make anything easyer for our couse. Sorry Dude won't hapen again!! Still thanks for your fight!! Bye!!! --Pensamiento


Thank you!

 

Hi Fadix,

Thank you very much for your involvement in my my RfA. Although you didn't support at first, I'm glad you voiced your concerns. And I really appreciated your last comment on my talk page. I hope I won't disappoint you! If I can ever help with anything or if you have any comments about my actions as an admin, please let me know! Regards, JoanneB 23:36, 21 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Islamofascism

Howdy, Fadix.

The same folks who don't like books critical of Islam are now trying to delete Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Islamofascism (term) which has over 500 Kilogoogles (in various forms). Perhaps you could take a look and give your input. Klonimus 00:57, 25 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Reverting talk pages

Hi there. Noticed you recently did this edit, reverting two horrible and aggressive comments on the Armenian Genocide talk page. I understand this is a heated argument (hell, most of the discussions on AG are!), so I wont meddle in it. I would like to suggest strongly that the comments be put back though; for one reverting other people's comments is rather unelegant imho, and secondly, both posts gave ample insight into the characters of the authors ;-). Two reasons to keep them in plain sight if you ask me. On the whole i think you do a good job keeping things real in there.

Greets, The Minister of War (Peace) 20:15, 6 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

  • Grin* Precisely the reason i'm NOT reverting :-) I'm supposed to be on a Wikibreak myself! But i think i see your point, though its not something that archiving doesnt solve. Personally, when getting acquianted with a topic, i usually read through all the comments to see who are pushing what POV (and how badly), and these posts are certainly helpful in that respect!! But like i said, i wont get in the way; just a thought, but perhaps you are right to delete on sight. Greets, The Minister of War (Peace) 08:49, 7 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

My RfA

Hi Fadix! Merci, Choukran and Thank you for your kind support on my RfA. -- Szvest 17:29, 25 December 2005 (UTC)  Wiki me up™Reply

Dayr az-Zawr

Hi Fadix,

I am looking for someone who can tell me what Dayr az-Zur is called in Armenian. I put a transliteration of the Armenian name (Ter Zor) on the page for it because I have seen it referred to as such and it's quite important in Armenian history of a certain period. Checking on google after a couple of recent changes to the page, I find that another Armenian version, Der Zor, is twice as common on the internet. Should we include both?

What is the letter used in Armenian (if there's a standard Armenian version of the name), is it the inaspirate "ta"?

All the best, Palmiro | Talk 01:45, 27 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

"Der Zor" and "Deir el-Zor" are usually the most accepted transliterations online and in books.--MarshallBagramyan 08:59, 1 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

A question of Armenian

Hi, I checked out your user page and you speak Armenian! Cool :) I was wondering if you could check something out for me, is the Armenian translation here accurate, or might there be a better way of wording it? If you have comments you can leave them on the talk page. Thanks :) - FrancisTyers 18:29, 5 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

It really depends what you mean by fking it. :) Do you want a literary translation? If so, the Armenian text there doesn't really represent it. Fad (ix) 21:25, 5 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Rfa thanks

Hello Fadix. Thank you for supporting my Rfa! I will try my best to be a good administrator. --a.n.o.n.y.m t 17:43, 6 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Fadix, come back...and thank you!

Fadix, I see you are on a wikibreak...well, when you return please note my thanks for your support of my RfA. It is much appreciated and I will do my best to be a good admin. Thanks again! Babajobu 00:38, 7 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

WMC's RFA

I believe that the conflict that FZ etc. are talking about is at Talk:Aetherometry, and it goes all the way to the start. You might also want to have a look at the link that Natalinasmpf provided in his/her reply to FZ's Oppose vote. Guettarda 19:30, 10 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Which forum?

Sorry, can't remember which one... - Ta bu shi da yu 02:23, 13 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Khmer Rouge

Just in case you are interested, arbitration has been proposed on the Khmer Rouge article. Do you care to make a statement? WP:RFAR CJK 23:08, 15 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Wikimedia Canada

Hi there! I'd like to invite you to explore Wikimedia Canada, and create a list of people interested in forming a local chapter for our nation. A local chapter will help promote and improve the organization, within our great nation. We'd also like to encourage everyone to suggest projects for our national chapter to participate in. Hope to see you there! -- user:zanimum

Nagorno Karabakh

Hey Fadix. I wonder what your position is on including Staravoitova's USIP link on the Karabakh page. Your input will be appreciated.

In my opinion, that person isen't any less credible than Atkinson. We can not decide ones credibility here in Wikipedia, the source exist, and if there is no published answer to the source, we can not include our personal critics and dismiss a link. Fad (ix) 16:59, 21 January 2006 (UTC)Reply
Well put, Fadix. I did invite others for input on the talk page, so feel free to post this on the talk page, unless you object.--TigranTheGreat 23:38, 21 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Celine Dion

I've replied to your comments on Talk:Céline Dion. Oran e (t) (c) (e) 21:31, 21 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Irrelevant stuff.

Fadix, Eagle has posted long irrelevant ranting on the Armenian Genocide TALK page. It's absolutely out of place and makes the page load slower. Please have it deleted. (you can see it in the history)--TigranTheGreat 17:04, 5 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Your attitude

What are you talking about me trying to discredit you and being "low"? Looking back through my history, it was entirely clear why i brought up your block. You introduced my edit in the article by stating "Garnet, who was previously E.A., is continuisly reverting the reference to Ecevit etc., in the Turkish government section, which is unacceptable, this is not the first time he does such things, he in the past entirly deleted a section in the article" to which i replied "Do not try and smear my name on these pages, especially since you have been blocked for incivility already". This was a completely justified remark following your attempt to portray me as a vandal. I had warned you about your incivility weeks before your block, then you were blocked, and then you were uncivil in your conduct with me again, much like you have been in past two days. If you have a history of not being able to communicate in a civilised manner, then I will of course warn you by mentioning your prior offence. Likewise If I had a history of breaking the 3RR, then I would expect someone to mention my previous block. And you obviously don’t have a leg to stand on if you try to equate my 3RR offence in my early days as a "warning" from and administrator about my conduct, from which you have been so honourable not to mention. Pathetic. --A.Garnet 19:07, 6 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

The only reason I pointed to your past login was because at that time you recently changed it, and was an information and since I myself learned of your changing of login not so long before I pointed to it it was relevent to name your past alias. Also, I have never been blocked for incivility because the decision was REVERSED, and this by the same Admin who took the decision to first block me!!! I was temporarly blocked for an accusation in an arbitration cases which was interpreted by an Admin as incivility and you knew that but you used it regardless. Also, I have never EVER been harsh with you for materials you have added but those you have deleted I am generally very harsh with deletion of materials... and I also already warned you to stop deleting things on your own talk page and it was a kind request and was far from being harsh. Also, I don't remember having called you a vandal.

Hello

Dear Fadix, I saw you on Raffi's userpage, hope you read my remarks. It's an honor to know you :)--TigranTheGreat 22:35, 13 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Census

Fadix, do you have access to the sources containing the official 1897 census data (with the ethnic breakdown)--either Universalis, or your CD-ROM, or anything?--TigranTheGreat 23:28, 14 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

It's ok, no rush, what you provided from 1911 Britanica shall suffice for now. To be honest, never heard of Universalis.
By the way, do you have access to your sources stating that Caucasus Arm. population had decreased by 20K before the repatriation, or even better, that the repatriation was done to partially compensate for that loss? I mean, including that Russian book that you posted?
One more thing. I glanced over your CIA sources on the NK page. Could you explain how exactly they help with this whole de-jure business? Thanks.--TigranTheGreat 07:43, 16 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

C.Cat

Hi, Fadix. If Cat keeps insisting on putting the tag on, can you explain the situation to a sympathetic admin and get him to lock the page without the tag? Or get him to insist that Cat stops adding it - as I said on the discussion page, if one user had the right to keep a tag on then most of wikipedia's political topics would be "disputed".

FYI, he has reverted the page twice already, so watch out if he breaks the 3RR. Cheers, John Smith's 17:52, 17 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

NK status

Hi Fadix. At the end of the "Intro" segment in the NK Talk page I put two paragraphs--one containing "officially" and the other containing "within official borders". I asked you and Eupator to say which one you guys prefer. Let me know (either on the talk page or here) which one you prefer, before I ask the opinion of third parties and moderators. Thanks.--TigranTheGreat 01:45, 18 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for uploading Image:Armeniangenocide1.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this: {{TemplateName}}.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Thank you. Cool CatTalk|@ 14:54, 18 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for uploading Image:Armenianmassacres.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this: {{TemplateName}}.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Thank you. Cool CatTalk|@ 16:11, 18 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Armenian Genocide pictures

This is not what Coolcat is requesting, he is requesting that I prove that those pictures can be used in Wikipedia without copyright infrigement and then in the same time, requesting that I prove that the deaths are Armenians. The sourcing(books etc.) are widelly available on the web, and from a website run by one Wikipedian who present the same photos and refer to the books from which they were taken in his own website and Coolcat already is aware of that. [1] This is not the type of evidences he is requesting, what he is requesting he knows he can twist it and then claim that it was not provided. Fad (ix) 01:48, 19 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Ref the Armenian pictures, I have changed the tags on all save the one from the Soviet source. As you added this yourself, do you still have the reference as to where you got it? All you need is the reference of the book/source. John Smith's 20:03, 18 February 2006 (UTC)Reply
False, for images to stay all you need is A source per image (it could be the same book). A book of origin is more than adequate (I'd like to see the page name etc) however thwn images would have to be tagged with "fair use" which restricts their usage. I however prefer images to be PD.
  • To be able to use them in the article you need proof that pictures are authentic and are from the armenian genocide and not some other incident. This has nothing to do with copyrights. It's common sense to use authetic images on articles and not fabricated ones or images from an unrelated incident. A short descrition of every image would make the images more usefull.
  • I could have gotten the images deleted secretly. I am not required to notify you. I tagged the images in good faith and there are very fast ways to get rid of images with suspected copyright violations. I also notified all parties involved on talk:Armenian Genocide.
  • I really am not asking for much am I? Next time instead of writing several essays on my character and/or other nonsense, perhaps try to find information regarding copyrights of images. Jimbo Wales ruled that untagged images are to be deleted with a 7 day notice. This applies to every image uploaded to wikipedia. If I had not have done this someone would eventualy do this (perhaps when you are on vacation and not looking) and they would have been deleted. I am doing you a big favor actualy.
--Cool CatTalk|@ 02:13, 19 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Armenian Genocide

See the article. I don't really want to argue as I don't have anything at stake in this. I'm just going to make notes on the talk page and you can fix them if you like. I'm not going to add {{neutrality}} and neither will I remove it. I'm happy to suggest alternate wording when I can think of something. - FrancisTyers 16:19, 21 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Dhimmi

"this article lacks the cite your source tone" Not sure what you mean here. Do you want to say that we must explicitly mention in the artcle which scholar said what? Pecher Talk 18:50, 21 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Yes, that is what I basically meant. I won't get involved in the discussion, I gnerally get away from religious discussions as an agnostic so I just commented about the general impression of the article. Fad (ix) 00:07, 22 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Fadix, your main page says you got email, but it has no link to it. How would I email you if I wanted?--TigranTheGreat 00:07, 23 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Taner Akçam

I don't like this (Akçam = left wing terrorist). Do you have reliable sources/info on his conviction(s)? Cheers, --tickle me 09:47, 1 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Afd

Fadix, I know. I agree that the article is hopeless POV and shouldn't exist. But I just couldn't stand the insults that were already pouring in from the authors. If you would like to go ahead and start an Afd on this, I will support. I'm just not feeling like starting a war right now. pschemp | talk 07:33, 5 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

What is your problem?

I have been reading pages of text that shows your personal clashes with others. Your tone is irresponsible, unrespectful, etc. If people do not respond to you, that is because you show signs of extreme fanaticism that scares people. You are a very scary person! It is not acceptable, in any means, that everything should be filtered from your Godly hand. No one has that right, or expertise. Your actions not only irritating everyone but they are reaching to a level of being a psychological disorder. What kind of megalomania is that you can demand that things will fit to your ideology or way of understanding. I have been trying to deal with you. Trying to show some respect of your deletions and change the text that will fit to your needs, but this is only to make wikipedia "a cooperative" environment (that is what it is) not that my additions are factually wrong, or you are right. Please refrain yourself. --Karabekir 23:32, 7 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

User_talk:Tommiks#Armenian_issues
Timeline_of_Armenian_Genocide_and_Turkish_War_of_Independence example, as the rest of the series.
Special:Contributions/Karabekir contribution times and Special:Contributions/Cool_Cat
I exclude here expressions etc., if you still don't get what I mean I can perhaps present more obvious examples, I will be alerting administrators you really made your cases worster and I will have to add this to the arbitration cases and request a worst sanction. I knew this from the beggining but said nothing about it, or when I was informed that you believed that another user and me were the same person I knew that you would pop-up with another alias. I refused to do anything about it and pretended that you were trully a new user because I was really not interested to do something that will get you possibly blocked, but from your answer you forced me to give it away, sorry CoolCat. Truly yours. Fad (ix) 23:57, 7 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

I'm REALLY soory, 4u. Hope, you can find a way to get out of the situation that makes you act or think this way. There is nothing I can say to you. --Karabekir 00:19, 8 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Coolcat give it up, try saving the little crebility that is left to you and check both of your aliases contribution time and don't force me to copypast expressions that are proper to you used under both aliases. BTW, I had to warn people at the talk page and presented the situation to Tony. Fad (ix) 00:30, 8 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

I am just warning you that I am considering reopening the arbitration cases

Just to let you know that I will request a harder sanction for what you did. Fad (ix) 00:44, 8 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for the heads up. Feel free to as nothing is stoping you but I thought you were ignoring me.
What did I do by the way? I am rather busy writing my anti-vandal bot and we have a decent mess in korean wikipedia. Hence am making minimal wikipedia contribution.
--Cool CatTalk|@ 01:01, 8 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
Coolcat, you are hardly being convincing, I would have thought that you would try harder... I am giving you a last chance to come clean, I swear I will open an arbitration cases if you don't, and this time around the evidences won't manage you. Fad (ix) 01:17, 8 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
??? You are confusing me.... --Cool CatTalk|@ 02:47, 8 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
I have warned you, let the arbitrators decide then. Fad (ix) 02:33, 8 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
At least inform me the nature of the dispute.... --Cool CatTalk|@ 02:47, 8 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
Coolcat, you are so predictable, in a world where it isen't you, you would still have known it given that the dispute was just above your answer in my talk page and that the center of the dispute was around an article in which an alias appeared soon after you left. You have used this same innocent behavior in the past, but this time it won't work I am afraid, if I were you I would start documenting in the upcoming arbitration cases that I will submit in the upcoming days, to explain how come an innocent user who could barely write English(faking his English that is) would creat chronology tables by using your code paterns, coloring his tables exactly like you do, and the green crap on the right for cited ones, using the same expressions etc, and many other examples. Fad (ix) 02:57, 8 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
I do not pay attention to other peoples talk pages much unless I care about them. Tonikaku your attitude is quite annoying. For whatever the reason (I am not certain why) you are threatening me with arbitration.
Since you have predetermined what to do, nothing I say will matter. So go ahead with whatever you have in mind.
--Cool CatTalk|@ 03:03, 8 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
About my "coding patterns", I am among the people who make a decent contribution to a variery of topics on some occasions "my coding patterns" have shaped structure of pages interwiki. It is perfectly normal for you to frequently observe "my conding patterns". For example User:Jimbo Wales and some subpages contain "my coding paterns".
--Cool CatTalk|@ 19:26, 8 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
Based on checkuser, it is extremely unlikely that Karabekir is Cool Cat. Fred Bauder 03:38, 8 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
Hope this helps...--Cool CatTalk|@ 03:52, 8 March 2006 (UTC)Reply


Coolcat, I pitty you for still trying to deny the obvious, I will be also trying to request a checkuser in Turkish wikipedia, I just hope for you that you tok the precautions to use an open proxy there too, I really hope for you. Fad (ix) 02:03, 9 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
Hmm... I do not see a constructive intent in this comment. Do you even know what an Open Proxy is? --Cool CatTalk|@ 21:37, 9 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
Dear dear dear, I perfectly know what is an open proxy. Fad (ix) 21:39, 9 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

OK Coolcat, lets say I am trying to assume good faith

Are you claiming that all those layouts that I was reffering to and that you have created are now widely used here in Wikipedia, not only in English Wikipedia but even Turkish? Is that what you are claiming? Fad (ix) 23:45, 9 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Thats exactly whats happening, you may also see my code on de.wiki ja.wiki, fr.wiki. You might be using a modified version of one of my designs on your userpage, who knows. Thats the beulty of contributing to a range of topics and templates
For instance try this: Check the history of English template (mind the date being sep 10 2005) and Turkish template (mind that its created by tr:User:Oytun Yalçın 25 february 2006). You will see that the English template was created long before the Turkish one. However I have modified the english one as well as turkish one recently so as to make the code more readable.
I also applied a similar code to {{Oh My Goddess}}, a japanese anime unrelated to Turkish Military. This may be coppied to Ja wiki over a matter of few months. This does not mean I have japanese socks but rather people like what I created.
The template design isn't uneque to me. See {{NATO}} for an example of a much more complicated template with a similar code.
--Cool CatTalk|@ 00:02, 10 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for your reply, now, this is my last question and I will not be bothering asking it again and will leave you alone with it. Are you Nafiz who contribute in Turkish Wikipedia? Fad (ix) 03:10, 10 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
No, I am Bg:User:Cool Cat, De:User:Cool Cat, En:User:Cool Cat, Es:User:Cool Cat, Fr:User:Cool Cat, It:User:Cool Cat, Ja:User:Cool Cat, Nl:User:Cool Cat, No:User:Cool Cat, Pl:User:Cool Cat, Pt:User:Cool Cat, Ru:User:Cool Cat, Sv:User:Cool Cat, Th:User:Cool Cat, Tr:User:Cool Cat, Zh:User:Cool Cat. My other aliases are fairly easy to trace such as En:User:WOPR. I also have 59 Imposters (people posing as me) a list is avalible at User:Cool Cat/Impersonators
Feel free to inquire anything, I'll gladly answer to the best of my abilities.
--Cool CatTalk|@ 11:21, 10 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

I would like you to reconsider your vote

The specified Armenian timelines are unique contributions of the author. As they are collection of dates and events, and it is the organization of the dates makes it unique to this author. There is no page on the internet that organized these events within these categories. This set of pages are UNIQUE and not copyvios. It would be very good tool to develop timeline of these activities who are realy seeking for TRUTH. I belive you would like to see them developing too. Thanks for your attention. --OttomanReference 18:55, 10 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Initiating the process of disbute resolution

I think you would like this effort; Karabekirs additions on the Turkish position is moved to the "Position of Turkey" page. Please give your position on its talk page, as soon as possible so that we can unite the section to the main page. --OttomanReference 20:47, 10 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

thanks for everything --OttomanReference 22:00, 10 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
First, somebody tagged the temporary page for deletion and told that these has to be performed under user page, so I created one. It is really not intended to be developed in two parts which should never be tolerated as you say. this is the page --OttomanReference 22:00, 10 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
Second, I itemized the claims (as far as I can) . If you pass over them and tell which ones needs to be droped or developed, that would be nice.--OttomanReference 22:00, 10 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
Third, Please do what ever is necessary to fit the timelines to your understanding. But I personally think they will be good tools if developed appropriately. --OttomanReference 22:00, 10 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

The rest of the article is restored; I guess this would satisfy your position. I have no other solution in my mind that would make you totally happy right away. thanks.--OttomanReference 20:52, 10 March 2006 (UTC)Reply



Armenian Genocide memorial

I did study the contributions of the person who answered to me and found out that the list was very short and not very useful (half of it were insults to other editors). I went away without more comments because it wasn't worth the trouble, and the links to the pictures I took (useful or not) are already there for anyone to see. Thanks for taking notice. If you need help with really disruptive users, let me know. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 19:11, 22 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Justin McCarthy a respected scholar?

This is your department: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Adana#Adana_massacre.2Frebellion --Eupator 23:40, 23 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Adana

Hi, Fadix. Thank you for your messages. About the term "Adana massacre," I understand what you are saying, but at the same time it is not necessarily a neutral term considering that others (namely the Turkish side, whose POV I'm sure you are familiar with) dispute this usage, preferring "rebellion" instead. I personally find the Turkish POV suspect since there is widespread denial concerning the Armenian Genocide - however, in the case of Adana I think things are not so black and white, especially since it seems that many Turks died as a result as well and that this part of the history has been obscured or ignored.

Concerning McCarthy, I agree that he is considered controversial (this is obvious considering he is sympathetic to the Turkish POV), but I strongly disagree in comparing him with a racist and reviled figure like Zundel. McCarthy is an academic and respected enough that he is both a published author and employed in an American university. However, I have never suggested using him as a prime source - what I have suggested is that both POVs be represented and that the article attempt to be inclusive of all the victims and balance the material provided. As I've said before, if scholarly sources were abundant, we wouldn't be having this discussion since we would know much more about what happened and how many died.

BTW, I am not very familiar with the writings of Orhan Pamuk, but do you know what he has written about Adana? SouthernComfort 03:19, 25 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Well That is interesting

Regarding (for): I thought you should know http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fadix/evidencepage. The question is why? If you wanted to participate in the edition of the Armenian genocide page, why havn't you said so? Why have you used socks insteed? I wasn't expecting you to do something like that, now I just don't know of what to think about you.

I do not know you; but I'm a grad student, who earns his life through teaching. I know; I do not contribute all the time. I guess that is what the patterns of red colors in your page means. It is nice that someone spends time in digging my work. :-) You have to remember that I need to work hard around midterms and deadlines that explain my side of the argument. There are students/academics like me. Their activities may match, given the academic datelines. I could tell you this much, I have close friends that share same opinions, same background. Sometimes I help them with programming. I'm sure you have such friends. I have no idea what you are blaming me for, or if there is blame? For the Armenian genocide page, that page is in my watch list since 2005. I have been watching over it, without any involment. If I see some activity that is beyond basic noise, I try to understand the significance of it in that page. Personally, If I'm not wrong (you can correct me, I'm not sure) for the last two years I have contributed once to that page, and that was only to arrange some text. I do not recall adding or deleting anything. Also, I could not stop myself once on commenting on regarding the Turkish official historical positions that were targeting you and your opponent which seems it was a hot debate on a wrong premise. I put a remark on your paragraph and made sure that Turkish "State Ministry" basically selects published information and promotes them, but not come-up with them. You can tell me if I ever fixed those arguments in that page that should not be worded from state side. I do not remember. I felt I was the third leg in that position. --tommiks 23:53, 26 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

You have the right not to like my additions. What is the problem here? I worked very hard on couple pages, you stop short on my history. I can verify my additions as they have very respected citations. I do not see you have any objections on that. I covered the Armenian page pervious paragraph. I have nothing to do with you personally, if that is your argument. I do not know which pages you are contributing. But it seems you have extensive information on me. That is disturbing. I'm really approaching positively. But I do not see any factual or personal conflict with you. What is the source of your feelings that made you spend so much time on me? Are you someone from my past that I had clashes? Are you using a proxy name?--tommiks 23:53, 26 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Regarding (for): the text you drop on my page: I have thousands of edit (I worked on a single page for a long time) and thousands of copy-edits. Such as making a paragraph a section, or moving a sentence to another page. That is what I’m seeing in your arguments. The rest seems to me are very good thoughts on your side; I guess that fits to the context of the article. What I’m interested is; if you are accusing me of copying someone else's work or specially your work, I’m sure there is another explanation. responding to my edits: I know statistics. I use a program to check student works. But I also know to ask the student before reaching any conclusions. “Copy-edit” generates two papers look very similar. I ‘m sure there is something you are missing and having wrong assumptions. If you are blaming me specifically on the Armenian genocide page, (I have already summarized), I do not understand where you are going. I have done so many copy-edits aiming to “making things easier to read as pretext” especially for my own reading. I guess you do not perceive them as “making things easier to read for you”. That is fine. I have no intention to deal with that. If you have solid arguments that I can respond, such as injecting POV? I give you authority to delete them. I can see you are very dedicated to that page. I would like to help you; to resolve your issues, if you tell me what caused your obsessive behavior on my edits. There has to be a reason, as I have no personal contact with you. You have given so much time... --tommiks 16:06, 27 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

I appologize Coolcat

You were not Karabekir, while my research shows you were implicated in the Febuary 10s lobbying, Tommiks was behind those alias. [2], [3].

I admit when I am wrong. Fad (ix) 01:02, 27 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Glad that was cleared, next time I suggest you try opening hailing frequencies before firing all phasers. --Cool CatTalk|@ 01:06, 27 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
Here a proposition for you, as I have shown in my evidence page, a merging test is the best way to track socks(but not vandals with no specific interests)), how hard would it be to write such a program? I have some ideas on the type of tests the program should do. With this kind of test introduced in checkuser, it will be much more difficult for a user to hide behind socks. It could answer with a correlation value and a probabilistic % that this is due to chance with a comparative sample. Fad (ix) 01:14, 27 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
Checkuser and this are completely two diferent procedures.
Checkuser is someone determining if two aliases are the same based on IP as well as logs. Every edit made comes with a number of unique signatures establishing who made the edit. It is possible to fool a number of them but people who checkuser are fairly through with this. Generaly persistant socks such as User:MARMOT don't require checkuser to be blocked anyways. Only very few users have this kind of access. I am not even entrusted with admin privilages so I cant quite assist you with this one just yet.
I asked User:Interiot for something like that quite a while ago. His hands are generally full and he may need a reminder. This is a delicate process though. You do not want to use arbitrary percentages accusing random people. It is possible to have false positives for two unrelated people of which one contributes weekdeays and another weekends. I do not know how hard the programming would be but for Interiot it would be a walk in the park.
--Cool CatTalk|@ 02:36, 27 March 2006 (UTC)Reply