Property talk:P193
Latest comment: 8 years ago by Izno in topic PFD
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main building contractor
the main organization (or person) responsible for construction of this structure or building
the main organization (or person) responsible for construction of this structure or building
Description | The main building contractor for this building or structure | ||||||||||||
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Represents | general contractor (Q289612), construction business (Q811930) | ||||||||||||
Data type | Item | ||||||||||||
Template parameter | main_contractor in en:Template:Infobox building | ||||||||||||
Domain | According to this template:
architectural structure (Q811979)
According to statements in the property:
When possible, data should only be stored as statementsarchitectural structure (Q811979) | ||||||||||||
Allowed values | organization (Q43229), more specifically general contractor (Q289612) (note: this should be moved to the property statements) | ||||||||||||
Example | The Shard (Q18536) → Mace (Q5284447) Eiffel Tower (Q243) → Gustave Eiffel (Q20882) | ||||||||||||
Tracking: same | no label (Q55283159) | ||||||||||||
Tracking: differences | no label (Q55283161) | ||||||||||||
Tracking: usage | Category:Pages using Wikidata property P193 (Q23909041) | ||||||||||||
Tracking: local yes, WD no | no label (Q55283160) | ||||||||||||
See also | architect (P84), manufacturer (P176) | ||||||||||||
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Proposal discussion | Proposal discussion | ||||||||||||
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Type “architectural structure (Q811979)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “architectural structure (Q811979)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P193#Type Q811979, SPARQL
Value type “organization (Q43229), general contractor (Q289612), human (Q5)”: This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value organization (Q43229), general contractor (Q289612), human (Q5) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P193#Value type Q43229, Q289612, Q5, SPARQL
Good definition wanted
editThe property lacks good definition. The property seems to be describing en:General contractor, but there is a major problem in the interlinked of the topic in Wikipedia.
- German de:Bauherr is not wikidata-linked. It must be the same as the Danish da:Bygherre. A Danish "Bygherre" is an owner that pays for building a house. A "bygherre" can employ an "da:entreprenør".
- Danish da:Bygherre is wikidata-linked to general contractor (Q289612)
- general contractor (Q289612) is linked to German de:Generalunternehmer and English en:General contractor. The "General contractor" seems more related to the idea of "entrenenør".
- German de:Bauherr is linked to French fr:Maîtrise d'ouvrage
- French fr:Maîtrise d'œuvre is linked to Danish da:entreprenør and German de:Baumeister and English en:General contractor.
In conclussion it seems that
- main building contractor (P193) = general contractor (Q289612) = en:General contractor = de:Generalunternehmer = da:entreprenør = fr:Maîtrise d'œuvre
- de:Bauherr = da:Bygherre = fr:Maîtrise d'ouvrage. There seems to be no wikidata item for this concept. And it is unclear to me what the English word is other than "client".
- I.e, da:Bygherre, sv:Byggherre and others and linked to the wrong concept.
- Dangling: de:Baumeister =? da:bygmester =? sv:Byggmästare
- Wikidata has "Generalbauunternehmer, but German Wikipedia does not. And what is Generalunternehmer compared to de:Baumeister?
— Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 21:47, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
- I have now attempted a cleanup of Wikidata and interwikilinks. I have also created a new entity construction client (Q15587490) and linked, e.g., fr:Maîtrise d'ouvrage and de:Bauherr. Hopefully this is correct? — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 22:12, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
PFD
editPlease comment at Wikidata:Properties_for_deletion#manufacturer_.28P176.29_and_main_building_contractor_.28P193.29. --Izno (talk) 11:24, 5 May 2016 (UTC)