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<big><big>'''My formal name is ''James L. Woodward'', but I prefer to be called "Jim"'''</big></big> |
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== Olympic rings copyright == |
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Hello Jim, |
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Hi Jim, Where and how to the Olympic rings could have a copyright? According to [[:en:Olympic symbols]], they were created by Pierre de Coubertin (who died in 1937), and first used in 1914 for the first modern Olympic Games in Athens, so any possible copyright expired long ago. Additionally, I think these rings are too simple to get a copyright in most countries. The "Intellectual property" section mentions a trademark, but not a copyright. [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:15, 24 July 2024 (UTC) |
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I'm a beginner on Wikipeda / Wikimedia so if I write something stupid please be patient :-). About ten days ago I've uploaded the following files: |
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*[[:File:SZALONA LOKOMOTYWA 1997.jpg]] |
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*[[:File:HIPOTEZA 2000.jpg]] |
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*[[:File:Megalomanka 2000.jpg]] |
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*[[:File:SZALONA LOKOMOTYWA 1997a.jpg]] |
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*[[:File:Paweł Trybalski foto Robert Kutkowski.jpg]] |
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which were put into "To delete" discussion. I've missed the discussion and files are now deleted. Could you point me what i'm doing wrong and what is best way to put those files on Wikimedia (Re-upload or re-open the delete discussion in some way). Those graphics are given my by theirs author to publish it on wiki and i think there is no legal / license issues. I'll be indebted for any help. |
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Commons, like all WMF projects, never actually deletes anything. "Deletion" simply makes an image unavailable for general viewing. It is therefore never necessary or appropriate to upload an image a second time. If the license issues with these images are resolved, they will be restored to general view as part of the review process. |
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:I disagree that they ever had a copyright, but yes, the question is moot. WP article specifically says they are too simple to get a copyright. [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:32, 25 July 2024 (UTC) |
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== File:Nurul Amin.jpg == |
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As I noted in the DRs, the first four are [[COM:DW|derivative works]] of paintings by Paweł Trybalski. I suggest you read the article on derivative works linked at both the DR and above. To restore these on Commons will require permission directly from Trybalski using the procedure at [[Commons:OTRS]]. |
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Dear Jim, you closed [[Commons:Deletion requests/File:Nurul Amin.jpg|this discussion]] as delete but the file is still available. Thank you for your time and effort. Best regards, [[User:HeminKurdistan|HeminKurdistan]] ([[User talk:HeminKurdistan|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:43, 30 July 2024 (UTC) |
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The photograph of Trybalski was apparently taken by Robert Kutkowski. As I noted at its DR, there is no evidence of permission from Kutkowski, who is almost certainly the copyright holder. In order to restore the image to Commons, we will require a license from Kutkowski, also using the procedure at [[Commons:OTRS]]. |
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, it a . . <strong><strong>Jim</strong></strong> . . . <small><small>[[User:Jameslwoodward|(Jameslwoodward)]]</small> ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]]) :, July (UTC) |
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== Questions about deletion == |
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== Image == |
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Hello Jim. I saw that you [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons%3ADeletion_requests%2FFile%3APresence_of_Tren_de_Aragua_in_the_United_States.svg&diff=905407592&oldid=886953302 deleted this file]. Could you provide a rationale? It seems that [https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/venezuelan-crime-organization-members-green-light-attack-law-enforcement/ the group's presence is still increasing] according to sources and its presence is notable enough to warrant [https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/07/11/statement-from-nsc-spokesperson-adrienne-watson-on-u-s-actions-against-transnational-criminal-organization-tren-de-aragua/ policies enacted by the White House]. Overall, I just want to know if I did something wrong with creating this file so I can avoid any future mistakes. Thank you!--[[User:WMrapids|WMrapids]] ([[User talk:WMrapids|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC) |
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Can you speedy delete this image? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Copa_del_mundo.jpg --[[User:Badefa|Badefa]] ([[User talk:Badefa|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:57, 9 July 2013 (UTC) |
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:Thank you for the explanation. I want to be transparent and share that I also have [[:File:Tren de Aragua presence in the Americas.svg|this similar file]]. Are there any issues with this file? Again, there are sources that support the presence in these areas and I believe the file has been properly attributed to the other map files. [[User:WMrapids|WMrapids]] ([[User talk:WMrapids|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:42, 2 August 2024 (UTC) |
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==[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Flickr_images_needing_human_review Flickr Human Review]== |
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Wow! I did now know that trusted user MyCanon was actually part of a 77 sockpuppet account and has now been indefintely banned. He always seemed to know about the right image licenses. I was going to ask him for help marking flickr images in the above category. |
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== [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Благодарность_(Древнейшие_пирамиды_мира).jpg&action=edit&redlink=1 File:Благодарность (Древнейшие пирамиды мира).jpg] == |
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Anyway, I am reducing the number of time that I spend marking flickr images that need human review (I have to concentrate on my studies and work this summer...and so this backlog will quickly grow) and unfortunately I don't see anyone else carrying the load in this category. I hope that you can you can find some active trusted user or Admin who can mark flickr images in this category? Its not a major task. I managed to mark 20-25 images today but I have to stop now and the backlog is still big...and it will grow as you likely know sadly. Best Regards, --[[User:Leoboudv|Leoboudv]] ([[User talk:Leoboudv|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 04:44, 10 July 2013 (UTC) |
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Hello, colleague. I would like to know the reason for deleting a file that did not contain copyrighted images. The text and the ink stamp cannot be copyrighted, and the photo at the bottom was mine. — [[User:Виктор Пинчук|Виктор Пинчук]] ([[User talk:Виктор Пинчук|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:00, 1 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:This is not a literary work, but a document in which the museum thanks the author of the exhibition for the work done. (It is enough to translate the title.) — [[User:Виктор Пинчук|Виктор Пинчук]] ([[User talk:Виктор Пинчук|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:44, 1 August 2024 (UTC) |
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::That is a misunderstanding of copyright. All text, including computer programs, is copyrighted as a literary work. . <strong><strong>Jim</strong></strong> . . . <small><small><small>[[User:Jameslwoodward|(Jameslwoodward)]]</small></small></small> ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]]) 21:05, 1 August 2024 (UTC) |
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What do you think about [[:File:Mühlbergkellerg.-Kataster (1).jpg|this image]]? Do you think such an image is copyrightable? PD-ineligible or PD-shape do not apply in my view. Best regards, [[User:High Contrast|High Contrast]] ([[User talk:High Contrast|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:01, 12 July 2013 (UTC) |
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== [[:Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Interior of Schwimmoper (Wuppertal)]] == |
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This blanket deletion is an absolutely arbitrary decision! You don't address at all the arguments of the keep proponents, who were in the majority. What does the architect have to do with the design of a shower? Why did you delete this photo? You, like the guy who submitted the deletion request, have definitely only dealt with the matter superficially, because there are two more photos of the shower, that are not nominated, what was also pointed out in the discussion. You act unprofessionally and smugly instead of putting your opinion forward for discussion. It is very doubtful whether other parts of the interior, such as the pool fittings, were planned by the architect, as he is usually not responsible for that. Better to do a major clear-cut than even to think about it? |
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Hello Jim, |
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I do not agree with your suggestions to delete the images that I have posted in Projeto del Rei link. All the images were made by me, all of the works belong to me and in Brazil, all of the artists I am working in this project are in public domain, because the laws here establish the period of 70 years of death of the painter as the condition to the work can be in public domain. Please, note that I am a visual artist and History of Art teacher in Federal University of São João del Rei, Minas Gerais State, Brazil. The iconographic material about the Brazilian history of art is rare and my project as an artist and as a teacher tries to change this situation by giving to the public the opportunity to see works of art that belongs to my private collection. |
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I hope that you can make the considerations about your suggestions to delete the pictures I have posted. If the Wikimedia is going to delete the images of my project, I prefer to delete the entire project and I will look for another way to put my works available to the public. |
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Kind regards from Brazil. |
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Gedley Belchior Braga {{unsigned2|14:01, 29 July 2013|Projetodelrei}} |
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Hi [[user:Jameslwoodward|Jim]]. Just look up. May I expect answers to my questions from the noble Mr. Administrator after his lonely vacation? --[[User:Im Fokus|Im Fokus]] ([[User talk:Im Fokus|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:46, 19 August 2024 (UTC) |
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All images on Commons must be free of copyright in both the country of origin (Brazil, for these) and in the USA. Images of works of art are [[COM:DW|derivative works]] of the subject. For images of paintings, there is no copyright in the photograph, so the only thing that matters is the status of the painting. All of what you say is correct for Brazil, but it does not cover the USA situation. I suggest that you read [[COM:URAA]]. Although it is a little hard to understand and hard for many of us to believe, US law provides that a work that was under copyright in its home country in 1996 will be under copyright in the USA until 95 years after first publication unless it was first published before 1923. |
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I think my closing comment covers it -- "Just as a sentence or two from a thousand page book has a copyright, so architectural details have an enforceable copyright which we must obey." It doesn't matter whether the interior details came from the architect or an interior designer, to the extent that they have design beyond mere utility, as these certainly do, they have a copyright. . <strong><strong>Jim</strong></strong> . . . <small><small><small>[[User:Jameslwoodward|(Jameslwoodward)]]</small></small></small> ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]]) 14:03, 20 August 2024 (UTC) |
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You will note that I have put DRs only on those works that are post 1923 -- the others I simply corrected the license information. The fact that you own the works is probably not important -- the copyright almost always rests with the artist's heirs, not with the owner of the work. Of course if you can show that you own the copyrights or can get the artists' heirs to license the works, that would be good, but without that, we cannot keep them here. |
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:Where does the design of the spectator benches go beyond mere utility? Why are square shower cubicles just useful, but round ones are works of art? Your criterion opens all doors to arbitrariness. And your book comparison is also very flawed. If I only quote simple, everyday sentences from a book like "he went to the train station," "she slept late," "they laughed out loud" or if I only photograph the first quarter of each page in the longitudinal direction, so that the sentences are incomplete, then I can I also publish more than just two pages of a big book. [[User:Im Fokus|Im Fokus]] ([[User talk:Im Fokus|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:28, 20 August 2024 (UTC) |
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Hello Jim, |
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I understand that this site is under the USA laws and I do not want to break your laws. But this is really very frustrating, because, according to Brazilian laws, this kind of use of image is allowed, mainly if you have the photo copyright. There is no heirs that could claim these rights in the case of the painters you have marked. That is reason that I have chosen them for my project. But as an artist, there are complicated conceptual issues like works on the border of this discussion, as the american artist Sherrie Levine(born April 17, 1947 in Hazleton, Pennsylvania - she is an American photographer and appropriation artist). I think that my work is on this kind of reasoning. I am still learning how to work here. But if my work becomes a trouble, I can host my images outside USA, as my public and objective are to help Brazilian people to know better their artists and their untold history of art. [[User talk:Projetodelrei]] {{unsigned2| 16:51, 29 July 2013| Projetodelrei}} |
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{{tq|a movie set is hardly a private place}}.... I mean, it is unfortunate that the nomination drew no other commentary, but that assertion is just wrong. Many if not most productions employ security teams for the specific purpose of keeping the general public off the set. This image seems pretty clearly to have been taken on the sly, during a movie shoot, without the knowledge or permission of the subjects. It seems to me that you closed the discussion based on your personal opinion and manifestly incorrect assumptions, as opposed to Commons policy. [[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]] ([[User talk:Just Step Sideways|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:28, 3 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:I don't understand the reference to Sherrie Levine, but the USA law is clear here -- if a foreign work was under copyright in its home country on the URAA date, it will be under copyright in the USA for 95 years after publication. |
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It's a beach -- while there probably were, as you say, security people to keep the public off the cameras, it was certainly visible from adjacent buildings and all sides. Also note that the US rules about private images are very loose. . <strong><strong>Jim</strong></strong> . . . <small><small><small>[[User:Jameslwoodward|(Jameslwoodward)]]</small></small></small> ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]]) 15:41, 16 August 2024 (UTC) |
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== Requested undeletion of Karsh photos == |
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== [[:Restored Puta Images]] == |
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I've submitted a [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Undeletion_requests/Current_requests#Multiple_Karsh_photo_porttaits request for undeletion] of seven Karsh photos you deleted. --[[User:Wikiwatcher1|Wikiwatcher1]] ([[User talk:Wikiwatcher1|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 04:31, 30 July 2013 (UTC) |
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{{Autotranslate|1=Restored Puta Images|2=|3=|base=Idw}} [[User:Enhancing999|Enhancing999]] ([[User talk:Enhancing999|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:50, 6 August 2024 (UTC) |
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My formal name is James L. Woodward, but I prefer to be called "Jim"
Olympic rings copyright
[edit]Hi Jim, Where and how to the Olympic rings could have a copyright? According to en:Olympic symbols, they were created by Pierre de Coubertin (who died in 1937), and first used in 1914 for the first modern Olympic Games in Athens, so any possible copyright expired long ago. Additionally, I think these rings are too simple to get a copyright in most countries. The "Intellectual property" section mentions a trademark, but not a copyright. Yann (talk) 18:15, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
Yann, I did say "... it has expired". The question of whether the rings ever had a copyright is moot, but given the low ToO in France, I'm pretty sure they did. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 20:40, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- I disagree that they ever had a copyright, but yes, the question is moot. WP article specifically says they are too simple to get a copyright. Yann (talk) 09:32, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
File:Nurul Amin.jpg
[edit]Dear Jim, you closed this discussion as delete but the file is still available. Thank you for your time and effort. Best regards, HeminKurdistan (talk) 14:43, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, it was uploaded a second time out of process. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 21:25, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Questions about deletion
[edit]Hello Jim. I saw that you deleted this file. Could you provide a rationale? It seems that the group's presence is still increasing according to sources and its presence is notable enough to warrant policies enacted by the White House. Overall, I just want to know if I did something wrong with creating this file so I can avoid any future mistakes. Thank you!--WMrapids (talk) 04:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
I thought that those who believed that the facts given on the map were unsubstantiated had the better side of the argument. I also note that the base map source was not named, so there it is probably a copyvio. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 12:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the explanation. I want to be transparent and share that I also have this similar file. Are there any issues with this file? Again, there are sources that support the presence in these areas and I believe the file has been properly attributed to the other map files. WMrapids (talk) 03:42, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Hello, colleague. I would like to know the reason for deleting a file that did not contain copyrighted images. The text and the ink stamp cannot be copyrighted, and the photo at the bottom was mine. — Виктор Пинчук (talk) 06:00, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Although I cannot read the text, it is certainly long enough to have a US copyright and probably a copyright in most other jurisdictions. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:16, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is not a literary work, but a document in which the museum thanks the author of the exhibition for the work done. (It is enough to translate the title.) — Виктор Пинчук (talk) 17:44, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- That is a misunderstanding of copyright. All text, including computer programs, is copyrighted as a literary work. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 21:05, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
This blanket deletion is an absolutely arbitrary decision! You don't address at all the arguments of the keep proponents, who were in the majority. What does the architect have to do with the design of a shower? Why did you delete this photo? You, like the guy who submitted the deletion request, have definitely only dealt with the matter superficially, because there are two more photos of the shower, that are not nominated, what was also pointed out in the discussion. You act unprofessionally and smugly instead of putting your opinion forward for discussion. It is very doubtful whether other parts of the interior, such as the pool fittings, were planned by the architect, as he is usually not responsible for that. Better to do a major clear-cut than even to think about it? Im Fokus (talk) 04:42, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
Hi Jim. Just look up. May I expect answers to my questions from the noble Mr. Administrator after his lonely vacation? --Im Fokus (talk) 20:46, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
I think my closing comment covers it -- "Just as a sentence or two from a thousand page book has a copyright, so architectural details have an enforceable copyright which we must obey." It doesn't matter whether the interior details came from the architect or an interior designer, to the extent that they have design beyond mere utility, as these certainly do, they have a copyright. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:03, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Where does the design of the spectator benches go beyond mere utility? Why are square shower cubicles just useful, but round ones are works of art? Your criterion opens all doors to arbitrariness. And your book comparison is also very flawed. If I only quote simple, everyday sentences from a book like "he went to the train station," "she slept late," "they laughed out loud" or if I only photograph the first quarter of each page in the longitudinal direction, so that the sentences are incomplete, then I can I also publish more than just two pages of a big book. Im Fokus (talk) 19:28, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
a movie set is hardly a private place.... I mean, it is unfortunate that the nomination drew no other commentary, but that assertion is just wrong. Many if not most productions employ security teams for the specific purpose of keeping the general public off the set. This image seems pretty clearly to have been taken on the sly, during a movie shoot, without the knowledge or permission of the subjects. It seems to me that you closed the discussion based on your personal opinion and manifestly incorrect assumptions, as opposed to Commons policy. Just Step Sideways (talk) 19:28, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
It's a beach -- while there probably were, as you say, security people to keep the public off the cameras, it was certainly visible from adjacent buildings and all sides. Also note that the US rules about private images are very loose. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 15:41, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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Restored Puta Images has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.
If you created this gallery, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. |