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I've submitted a [Commons:/ request for undeletion] of seven Karsh photos you deleted. --[[User:Wikiwatcher1|Wikiwatcher1]] ([[User talk:Wikiwatcher1|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 04:31, 30 July 2013 (UTC) |
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My formal name is James L. Woodward, but I prefer to be called "Jim"
Hello Jim,
I'm a beginner on Wikipeda / Wikimedia so if I write something stupid please be patient :-). About ten days ago I've uploaded the following files:
- File:SZALONA LOKOMOTYWA 1997.jpg
- File:HIPOTEZA 2000.jpg
- File:Megalomanka 2000.jpg
- File:SZALONA LOKOMOTYWA 1997a.jpg
- File:Paweł Trybalski foto Robert Kutkowski.jpg
which were put into "To delete" discussion. I've missed the discussion and files are now deleted. Could you point me what i'm doing wrong and what is best way to put those files on Wikimedia (Re-upload or re-open the delete discussion in some way). Those graphics are given my by theirs author to publish it on wiki and i think there is no legal / license issues. I'll be indebted for any help.
Best regards Andrzej Alphablondy 2007 (talk) 06:29, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Commons, like all WMF projects, never actually deletes anything. "Deletion" simply makes an image unavailable for general viewing. It is therefore never necessary or appropriate to upload an image a second time. If the license issues with these images are resolved, they will be restored to general view as part of the review process.
As I noted in the DRs, the first four are derivative works of paintings by Paweł Trybalski. I suggest you read the article on derivative works linked at both the DR and above. To restore these on Commons will require permission directly from Trybalski using the procedure at Commons:OTRS.
The photograph of Trybalski was apparently taken by Robert Kutkowski. As I noted at its DR, there is no evidence of permission from Kutkowski, who is almost certainly the copyright holder. In order to restore the image to Commons, we will require a license from Kutkowski, also using the procedure at Commons:OTRS.
If you have further questions, feel free to ask, but, as I have noted in the orange box above, it may be a while before I can respond. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 15:31, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
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Can you speedy delete this image? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Copa_del_mundo.jpg --Badefa (talk) 15:57, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Wow! I did now know that trusted user MyCanon was actually part of a 77 sockpuppet account and has now been indefintely banned. He always seemed to know about the right image licenses. I was going to ask him for help marking flickr images in the above category.
Anyway, I am reducing the number of time that I spend marking flickr images that need human review (I have to concentrate on my studies and work this summer...and so this backlog will quickly grow) and unfortunately I don't see anyone else carrying the load in this category. I hope that you can you can find some active trusted user or Admin who can mark flickr images in this category? Its not a major task. I managed to mark 20-25 images today but I have to stop now and the backlog is still big...and it will grow as you likely know sadly. Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 04:44, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello!
What do you think about this image? Do you think such an image is copyrightable? PD-ineligible or PD-shape do not apply in my view. Best regards, High Contrast (talk) 18:01, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
- Agreed. See Commons:Deletion requests/File:Mühlbergkellerg.-Kataster (1).jpg. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 10:43, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
Deleted files
Hello Jim, I do not agree with your suggestions to delete the images that I have posted in Projeto del Rei link. All the images were made by me, all of the works belong to me and in Brazil, all of the artists I am working in this project are in public domain, because the laws here establish the period of 70 years of death of the painter as the condition to the work can be in public domain. Please, note that I am a visual artist and History of Art teacher in Federal University of São João del Rei, Minas Gerais State, Brazil. The iconographic material about the Brazilian history of art is rare and my project as an artist and as a teacher tries to change this situation by giving to the public the opportunity to see works of art that belongs to my private collection. I hope that you can make the considerations about your suggestions to delete the pictures I have posted. If the Wikimedia is going to delete the images of my project, I prefer to delete the entire project and I will look for another way to put my works available to the public. Kind regards from Brazil. Gedley Belchior Braga — Preceding unsigned comment added by Projetodelrei (talk • contribs) 14:01, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
All images on Commons must be free of copyright in both the country of origin (Brazil, for these) and in the USA. Images of works of art are derivative works of the subject. For images of paintings, there is no copyright in the photograph, so the only thing that matters is the status of the painting. All of what you say is correct for Brazil, but it does not cover the USA situation. I suggest that you read COM:URAA. Although it is a little hard to understand and hard for many of us to believe, US law provides that a work that was under copyright in its home country in 1996 will be under copyright in the USA until 95 years after first publication unless it was first published before 1923.
You will note that I have put DRs only on those works that are post 1923 -- the others I simply corrected the license information. The fact that you own the works is probably not important -- the copyright almost always rests with the artist's heirs, not with the owner of the work. Of course if you can show that you own the copyrights or can get the artists' heirs to license the works, that would be good, but without that, we cannot keep them here.
I know that the URAA is very frustrating -- it certainly frustrates me -- but it is the law of the land and we are required to enforce it. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:38, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello Jim, I understand that this site is under the USA laws and I do not want to break your laws. But this is really very frustrating, because, according to Brazilian laws, this kind of use of image is allowed, mainly if you have the photo copyright. There is no heirs that could claim these rights in the case of the painters you have marked. That is reason that I have chosen them for my project. But as an artist, there are complicated conceptual issues like works on the border of this discussion, as the american artist Sherrie Levine(born April 17, 1947 in Hazleton, Pennsylvania - she is an American photographer and appropriation artist). I think that my work is on this kind of reasoning. I am still learning how to work here. But if my work becomes a trouble, I can host my images outside USA, as my public and objective are to help Brazilian people to know better their artists and their untold history of art. User talk:Projetodelrei — Preceding unsigned comment added by Projetodelrei (talk • contribs) 16:51, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
- I don't understand the reference to Sherrie Levine, but the USA law is clear here -- if a foreign work was under copyright in its home country on the URAA date, it will be under copyright in the USA for 95 years after publication.
- As for "There is no heirs that could claim these rights", that is incorrect. The copyrights all have owners -- probably distant heirs. The fact that the heirs are unknown and may be very difficult to determine is not important. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 17:08, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Requested undeletion of Karsh photos
I've submitted a request for undeletion of seven Karsh photos you deleted. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 04:31, 30 July 2013 (UTC)