Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Netherlands

A Request for Comments which may be of interest to this Wikiproject is waiting for your input at Talk:Dutch people#RfC on how to define the Dutch as an ethnic group, and what to include. Fram (talk) 07:08, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps this is the wrong place to ask for this kind of help - and I know this does not directly relate to the Netherlands WikiProject, but I was hoping someone might be able to access a book locally and help me with a citation for an article. I am looking for the book Albumdossier: 1969-2002 by Johan van Slooten, a book that does not appear to be in print anymore and is not available in the United States. I wish to know the page number of the book that has information about a U2 album called Achtung Baby, specifically a page that states what the album's charting peak was. I apologize if this request is misplaced, but I figured someone from the Netherlands might be involved in this project and be able to access the book at their local library. Thanks for your understanding. Y2kcrazyjoker4 (talk) 14:07, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I used a Dutch source to confirm that what was in Wikipedia was wrong. Wikipedia was only corroborated by itself and mirror sites. Other sources which I plan to add had a different version. Only the Dutch source confirms that Wikipedia's statement is a myth.

I was advised to ask a native speaker to confirm what an online translation suggested.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 15:46, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

O sorry, did n't realise you would take the ENKA case there; I thought you would post future requests here. My provided translation was done by myself not a machine. Don't worry, your interpretation of the Dutch source is correct. Arnoutf (talk) 10:17, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Was the Courante published in the "Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation (The Netherlands)" or in the "Dutch Republic (The Netherlands)"? See Talk:List of newspapers by establishment date#Which country? Gun Powder Ma (talk) 12:36, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The holy roman empire lost about all authority over the Netherlands in the 14th century, so a newspaper published in 1618 would fall outside of that political entity. See further comments on talk. Arnoutf (talk) 13:35, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In the article on Culemborg there is talk of violent race riots. Since I live there and am also a member of the local fire brigade (so I guess I have some insight in the matter) I think the world 'riots' implicates much and much more than actually happened. Yes, there were tensions, yes, there were fights, yes, there were cars on fire. But if it is on a scale of 3 or 4 streets and an area that can be walked through in 2 minutes I feel the term 'riot' is a gross exaggeration. Especially compared to real riots like in Miami or Paris suburbs both some years ago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.213.47.11 (talk) 07:34, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all. I'm a member of WP:WikiProject Opera and I have noticed that our coverage of opera in the Netherlands is rather poor. We have an articles on De Nederlandse Opera and its theatre, Stopera, which was established after World War II. However, opera was performed in Amsterdam for several hundred years before that, and there are no articles on any opera houses/theatres from before the construction of the Stopera, which only opened in 1986. Also, we could use articles on other current opera companies in other cites, like the Nationale Reisopera in Enschede, the Stichting Opera Groningen, and Opera Zuid in Maastricht. Any help would be appriciated.4meter4 (talk) 18:54, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is there some local guideline reason for these page moves from Joost van Citizen (politician) to Joost van Citizen (XYZ Party), which seem to now be against the WP:QUALIFIER naming convention? The-Pope (talk) 12:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe one or more of you good people could shed some lights onto the various singles charts in your country. Please see this discussion over at WP:CHARTS. Many thanks in advance. – IbLeo^(talk) 14:30, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Foreign names can be tough to pronounce, could anyone record audio files of the names of these political leaders:

• Job Cohen
• Femke Halsema
• Alexander Pechtold
• Emile Roemer
• André Rouvoet
• Mark Rutte
• Kees van der Staaij
• Marianne Thieme
• Maxime Verhagen
• Geert Wilders

Thank you, JamesBrownIsDead (talk) 11:21, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Are these still needed? I can help. Whaledad (talk) 19:30, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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I readily admit I am no expert on the Netherlands, but somebody who is should take a long hard look at this article. It is entirely unsourced and mentions an area of the Netherlands that I cannot find any mention of anywhere on Wikipedia. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place, but frankly I have never heard of hurricanes being so far north. Any help/input would be appreciated. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:48, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I figure since the Netherlands performs well at Speed skating, that there might be editors here interested in a WikiProject for the sport. If there are any, I created a proposal where you can vote to support or oppose the creation of such a project! See it here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Speed Skating. Forgive me if this is inappropriate! Cheers, oncamera^(t) 04:20, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Any input at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Weepul would be useful. Thanks, — Scientizzle 01:08, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have created together with Smallman12q a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for WolterBot and this WikiProject is among those that are already included (because it is a member of Category:WolterBot cleanup listing subscriptions). See the tool's wiki page, this project's listing in one big table or by categories and the index of WikiProjects. Svick (talk) 20:24, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

I have never suggested an edit before, so I am not sure how one goes about that, but I saw on the link for Frikadellen that it says it was invented in 1959:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frikandel

I just stumbled onto an old "Dr. Oetker's Schulkochbuch" that has a reference to Frikandellen (I think it is the 1920 edition) on page 64. It's in parenthesis after a reference to "Dämpfschnitte."

The copy I got is missing the copyright page, but it has 144 pages, and I saw that # of pages mentioned on a Library of Congress page for the 1920 edition. The later editions, such as the ones in the 1930s had more pages.

I know this cookbook predates 1959 because the cover is in Kurrentschrift and the text is in Fraktur, which was pretty much obliterated from the German script after World War II.

Anyway, I think it was invented much earlier than the article suggests.

Cheers, Sheryl Zettner

OK, you're mixing up the Netherlands (with their frikadel, respelled in 2005 to frikandel to better reflect common pronunciation)) and Germany (with their Frikadelle). These are different things. The German variant is a flattened meatball, the Dutch variant started out as a sausage-like meatball (invented in 1954 by Gerrit de Vries; in 1959 "perfected" by giving it a smooth surface by Jan Bekkers (now Jan Beckers)). Whaledad (talk) 19:28, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Is this web page from "De Tijd", "De Tijd (Netherlands)" or "HP/De Tijd"? Axl ¤ [Talk] 09:44, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is nl:De Tijd (België)/De Tijd (it would be good to rename the EN-Wiki article to "De Tijd (Belgium)" to avoid this confusion), a Belgian daily newspaper. Whaledad (talk) 19:22, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. The web page is in Dutch, right? Axl ¤ [Talk] 09:04, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It might be Flemmish rather than Dutch, depending on how you define the differences between the two. In practice however there is very little difference between them, rather like UK and US English. Martinvl (talk) 11:59, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Axl ¤ [Talk] 10:49, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why does WikiProject Netherlands have not Importance Scale? It seems like it would really help a lot.--RayqayzaDialgaWeird2210Please respond on my talkpage, i will respond on your talkpage.    13:43, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article on Lodewijk van den Berg says that he "was a naturalized American and no longer a Dutch citizen" at the time he went to space (1985). The accompanying reference (with a dead link) states that "according to Dutch regulations a person automatically loses the Dutch nationality if he voluntarily accepted another nationality before April 1, 2003". But can that retroactively apply to Van den Berg's 1985 flight? Had he really lost his Dutch citizenship at the time he took up American citizenship? Or did he only lose his Dutch citizenship when the current law came into force, which afaik was after the space flight? 83.84.195.88 (talk) 14:07, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the text is incomplete. He lost his citizenship based on the Dutch Nationality Act of January 1, 1985. That act was amended in 2003, to create some exceptions. [1] Whaledad (talk) 14:28, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just a question. Why isn't the article about Maarten Maartens within the scope of the WikiProject Netherlands? Since I wrote it, in 2009, I have always wondered why the WikiProject Netherlands has ignored it. He was Dutch and he was world famous in his time. The Netherlands should be proud of him! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sijtze Reurich (talk • contribs) 11:38, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have just put up a page on Bloeme Evers-Emden using the English-language sources available to me. I invite your editors to improve the article with Dutch-language sources as well. Thank you, Yoninah (talk) 16:50, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am looking for an information about a former Netherlands construction companty named Koninklijke Nederlandsche Maatschappij Voor Havenwerken which was an important international company of 1950s and 1960s. But the name of the company doesn't appear on web pages. I have a vague idea that the company may have merged to a Spanish company. But other than that, I have no idea of the company. Any information or even a hint appreciated. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:14, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo, mag ik even storen? Wikimedia Nederland gaat van start met nieuwe werkgroepen. Willen jullie misschien kijken op nl.wikimedia.org? Graag bedankt, --Ziko (talk) 14:59, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/United States Navy Band - Het Wilhelmus - Could a member of this WikiProject give insight into which instruments the anthem is generally played by? —James ^{(Talk • Contribs)} • 3:12pm • 05:12, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yesterday I proposed that the Reimerswaal article should be split into an article about the historic city and an article about the current municipality. I've just thought that I should note it here too, for example I don't know what (if any) naming conventions exist for articles about Dutch places. Thryduulf (talk) 16:43, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've now carried out this split and disambiguated almost every incoming link. There are a couple of templates that need updating though, Template:Single-column table row (and it's /doc page) and Template:Data Reimerswaal. I don't know how to fix these without breaking them though, sorry! Thryduulf (talk) 08:43, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect I have fixed the template. adding the article parameter to the data template fixed the others. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:37, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I've been working to improve this article, which is presently a good article nominee, and I hope down the road to nominate for FA. I'd be grateful for reviewers, random comments, I'm not picky!--Wehwalt (talk) 13:34, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well it says it is GA now. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:57, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is. It's now a Featured Article Candidate (for nomination, click here). Reviews and commenters would be very welcome.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:48, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I recommended this split after reading the Second Balkenende Cabinet article. I thought the topic has enough complexity, context leading up to the cabinet dispute, and consequences to warrant the creation of a new article. This would make it easier for the reader to access the information from all sides - the cabinet perspective and Ayaan Hirsi Ali's perspective - without having to go through multiple pages. What do you guys think? Rabiddog51sb (talk) 00:56, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If anyone is interested, Walraven van Hall needs lots of work. Devcogneuro (talk) 19:12, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I know this might sound odd, but is there anyone here who can translate a newspaper article for me (from the Haagsche Courant) that I might be able to use as sourcing? Nolelover ^{Talk·Contribs} 14:05, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The proposed renaming being discussed at Talk:Het Wilhelmus#Requested move may be of interest to members of WikiProject Netherlands. Favonian (talk) 08:14, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed in the movies section that dutch oscar winner Michael Dudok de Wit was missing so i added him to the list. I also added animator Paul Driessen and Marten Toonder but i put him in visual arts (since he is foremost a comic creator) But i also noticed no less then four porn actresses, maybe some of them could be called famous or notable, but i had never heard of them.

I would think the goal is a balanced list with people that are relevant in their field on a global scale. Looking at it like this, the four actresses might qualify, but how do you judge this? Peter wassink (talk) 19:34, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

One way to judge the notability of the subject is to see how many hits the article gets and how many other articles link to it. If they get hardly any hits and have hardly any other links, they are clearly not notable and should be deleted. Martinvl (talk) 21:22, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

After a recent request, I added WikiProject Netherlands to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at Wikipedia:WikiProject Netherlands/Popular pages.

The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using the toolserver tool. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr.Z-man 21:30, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Don't bother this project is as dead as the dodo (which you may notice was killed off by Dutch sailors). S_peakF_ree ^(talk)_(contribs) 02:44, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I removed most obvious hoaxing from 92.65.235.195, the article needs a thorough check. NVO (talk) 02:48, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]