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Counter-cultural revolution
This article needs serious revision, nothing about the counter-cultural revolution is mentioned, it even suggests that the revolution might be something besides the counter-cultural revolution which millions followed and what the international community reguarded the United States to be under, a Second American Revolution. Please, for the millions who were in the counter-cultural revolution as well as the international community stay truthful to history. --RThreat (talk) 23:32, 18 May 2007
References (General)
Some of the "other" references to Beatle's songs seem very shaky. For example "She's Leaving Home" is associated with the well-cared-for Lucy leaving home. If Lucy didn't leave home, the plot would have had to been entirely different, so how is this a reference to the song? Similarly, if a performer left the stage unexpectedly, I'd expect someone to yell "Get back (up there)!" I don't see how this is a reference as opposed to a natural response. I'm not sure about including the "possible" references. --WPaulB (talk) 19:01, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- There's also a reference to an non-Beatles song, after the "64" reference Jude's mother says instead of the merchant marine he could work on the Mersey Ferry, a Liverpool landmark used in the Gerry & the Pacemakers' song "Ferry Cross the Mersey." Is this worth putting in the article? --63.148.235.6 (talk) 13:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- How is it a reference? It's a physical landmark near where they live and one likely to come up in conversation naturally. The words his mother said are not directly from the song. --WPaulB (talk) 15:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Molly, Jude's first girlfriend, is a character in the song "Ob-la-di, Ob-la-da". Desmond, another character in the same song, is also in the movie approving one of Jude's drawings. Jude's mother is Martha, from the song "Martha, my dear". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.92.182.216 (talk • contribs) 03:48, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- The younger sister of Max and Lucy, Julia, is a reference to the song with the same name, which itself is a reference to John Lennon's mother. The character Dr. Robert is a reference to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, an Indian spiritual leader with whom the four Beatles were involved from August 1967 through April 1968. The yellow, psychodelic decorated bus they use is a reference to Beatle's movie and album "Magical Mystery Tour". (source: The Beatles - Anthology, Cosac & Naify, 2000) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Osoriosp (talk • contribs) 20:45, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- Uhhhh, nope. Dr. Robert is a reference both to the pill doctor in John's song as well as to Ken Kesey, and he looks a lot like Dennis Hopper in Easy Rider. Dr. Robert in the film is all about drugs, while the Maharishi was anti-drugs. But yes, the bus also references MMT, of course. --2003:71:4E49:1787:14E7:E459:1C71:7F93 (talk) 05:40, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
- The bus is probably more of a reference to Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters' bus Furthur than it is a reference to MMT. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.213.223.219 (talk • contribs) 03:47, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- There is a park called Luna Park (also the name of the name of the lady they greet upon arriving at the I am the Walrus party) that has a slide called Helter Skelter. Amazing coincidence, or amazingly obscure reference? -(the first time I heard of this was when I searched "Helter Skelter" in Google images and there was one of a slide titled Luna Parks Helter Skelter slide or something like that, that is the best research I have done, more would need to be done to confirm it) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.155.232.177 (talk • contribs) 23:49, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
- This entire thread is fully OR and doesn't really belong on Wikipedia, but for whatever it's worth: I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the music videos to Free as a bird and Real love so far, the photography to the film pays tons of hommage to both, and I even saw a few references to some of their solo music videos, such as the sudden green pastures at the beach at the end being an obvious nod to Paul's video for Mull of Kintyre. --2003:71:4E49:1787:14E7:E459:1C71:7F93 (talk) 05:37, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
- The fact is that this movie is freighted with nonstop period references, both spoken and visual, particularly ones that foreshadow scenes to come. (One that sticks in my mind is a clear visual reference to Jimi Hendrix, associated with the first appearance of JoJo the black guitarist, who does indeed himself become a Hendrix avatar a few scenes later.) As IP said above, this subject is unlikely to be WP-compatible given the need here for citations, but all of the references mentioned above are probably intended by the filmmaker. I could add dozens more. The movie is a continuous rain of references, though many may sail over the heads of people who didn't experience that era first-hand. Perhaps it's enough to say in the article that "This movie is rich in period references." Laodah 04:43, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
With a little help from my friends
in the section "Use of The Beatles' music", the article says that the melody of "with a little help from my friends" trascend into "dig a pony" then return to the original song. This is true, but it could be a reference to the Joe Cocker's version performed at Woodstock (see [1] for a comparison of the refrain). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.114.242.207 (talk • contribs) 18:47, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
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References to 60s figures
To anyone who lived through the 60s a lot of references are quite obvious, but the article does not mention them:
- Doctor Robert is clearly based on Ken Kesey, though the bus is called "Beyond" instead of "Furthur"
- The guy they take the bus to visit is Tim Leary & the place is the Hitchcock Estate in Millbrook NY
- Jo-Jo and Sadie have much in common with Jimi Hendrix & Janis Joplin
There are likely more I've either missed or do not recall; it is over a year since I last saw the film.
Probably some of these should be added to the article. Pashley (talk) 10:30, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Also Paco's blowing up the townhouse while making bombs is definitely a reference to the Weather Underground blowing up the townhouse in Greenwich Village in 1970.147.0.222.71 (talk) 06:20, 7 March 2020 (UTC)