Talk:1757 heatwave

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I don't see how having these raw data helps a reader in the slightest. Why are we showing it at all? Does the reader really benefit from having this table? What do they mean (what are they being compared to, what does 'normal' look like)? Why are these specific days selected for display? Why do we need the daily high, the daily low and the average temperature of this number of successive days to understand that there was a heatwave, and it was hot? What is the point? It is all just seems like data for data's sake. Agricolae (talk) 14:03, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• July 1757 heat wave → July 1757 heatwave
• 1808 United Kingdom heat wave → 1808 United Kingdom heatwave
• 1906 British Isles heat wave → 1906 British Isles heatwave
• 1911 United Kingdom heat wave → 1911 United Kingdom heatwave
• 1955 United Kingdom heat wave → 1955 United Kingdom heatwave
• 1976 British Isles heat wave → 1976 British Isles heatwave
• 1990 United Kingdom heat wave → 1990 United Kingdom heatwave
• 1995 British Isles heat wave → 1995 British Isles heatwave
• 2013 British Isles heat wave → 2013 British Isles heatwave
• 2018 British Isles heat wave → 2018 British Isles heatwave
• 2021 British Isles heat wave → 2021 British Isles heatwave
• 2022 United Kingdom heat waves → 2022 United Kingdom heatwaves

– "heatwave" is used by WP:RELIABLESOURCES: Met Office, NHS, The Independent, World Meteorological Organization, World Weather Attribution, BBC News, World Health Organization, The Times, World Economic Forum, Bloomberg News.

On the other hand, "heat wave" is more American English. Therefore, these articles should be moved per MOS:TIES. 90.254.30.143 (talk) 08:43, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Support per WP:TITLEVAR, especially as the articles tend to use "heatwave" rather than " heat wave" in their text per MOS:TIES. -- DeFacto (talk). 15:47, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per DeFacto. estar8806 (talk) ★ 19:27, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. Per the British Google Ngrams, both spellings are commonly used in British English. This is no different from the article on Grey being at that title and written in American English despite the fact that "Gray" is the more common American spelling. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:33, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  @Rreagan007 See here. There is no consensus on keeping that article at Grey. In my opinion, it should, in fact be "Gray", per WP:RETAIN and WP:TITLEVAR. 90.254.30.143 (talk) 11:05, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. Definitely much commoner in British English. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:18, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. There's lots of heat wave articles that aren't British heat waves, shouldn't we just have one usage? Indeed, even the July 1757 heat wave was also in Northern Europe, and was reported on in Paris. A heat wave in French is called a "Canicule" so they lend no spelling help. My point is we shouldn't just be creating some separate spelling plan for the times you guys wished you had air conditioning.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 15:59, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment, is it important to specify that this was the July 1757 heat[ ]wave, anyway? Looking at some other Europe heat wave articles, July seems to be something they have in common. Would it be better to call it something like 1757 European heat wave/1757 European heatwave instead? Roll 3d6 (talk) 02:50, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per MOS:TIES, although I agree with Roll 3d6 that the first suggestion should just be 1757 heatwave per WP:CONCISE. Actualcpscm ^{scrutinize, talk} 16:01, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]