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Daphne Lantier 01:11, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
- As a condition of your last block being lifted you promised to stop being rude and intimidating toward @Ellin Beltz: . Per @Steinsplitter: 's warning above, concerning this, and continued rude and uncalled for responses like this, you haven't lived up to your promise. You're rude in far too many of your interactions. This is bad for commons. Editors need to express themselves respectfully, and you don't seem to be willing to behave in that way. This is obviously a long-term issue with you. Hence my indefinite block. Daphne Lantier 01:19, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
- In my knowledge, alternate accounts will not be blocked unless if you will use them to evade your block, or it is likely that you will use them to evade your block (which isn't the case here). When I was blocked by Natuur12, he didn't blocked my alternate accounts, and I didn't evade my block using them either. ★ Poké95 03:34, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, you are right about that. I have no intention of blocking a useful bot as long as Amitie 10g doesn't use it to edit. Daphne Lantier 03:46, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
- Well, if WebArchiveBOT have editions, please block it and let me know it inmediately (this means it was compromised). --Amitie 10g (talk) 04:39, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, you are right about that. I have no intention of blocking a useful bot as long as Amitie 10g doesn't use it to edit. Daphne Lantier 03:46, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose The community won't work if you can't treat other editors with respect. You can disagree with other users, you can vote keep in a deletion request, you can file undeletion requests, and you can post comments on the userpages of other users, but you can do all of these in a respectful manner. Constant rudeness and snarky comments harm the community, even when you're right. As for Ellin Beltz, you made a direct promise to get INeverCry's indef block reduced to 3 months. As can be seen above at Steinsplitter's diff, you broke that promise. You've continued to be rude to Ellin Beltz in deletion requests as well. When you make a promise in order to have a block shortened, you have to keep that promise. If you have a problem with Ellin Beltz over something you think she's done wrong, returning to your former rude and confrontational behavior is the wrong answer. You could talk to an uninvolved admin about it, or you could even post at COM:AN/U. To be clear, I oppose any unblock at this time. Perhaps a last chance could be given at a future time, but nobody should be unblocked after flouting a promise made that involved a three-month block they themselves agreed to and even directly suggested. Perhaps this block could be reduced to 6 months or 1 year, but anything less goes against the promise that Amitie 10g himself made. He clearly and directly promised to cease this behavior. He continued it after the three-month block expired. A longer or indefinite block is clearly warranted in this situation. Daphne Lantier 03:44, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
- Then, could an uninvolved admin review the block an reduce at the time you etimate convenient (if possible no more than 6 monts)? And also, uninvolved admins, please review the rationale applied to this block, considering Ellin Beltz nominated the files I removed the Speedy tags for good reasons (I'm an involved user for these cases), and she nominated these files for invalid reasons. My behaviour is unacceptable, but, as an involved user, I need to complain the other involved user. --Amitie 10g (talk) 04:37, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
- It is already posted here for a review. You can answer here if anybody ask any questions (there). Jee 05:57, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose This has been going on for two years. Here are summaries of three blocks. Notice that of the three, two are for negative behavior and they date from just shy of one year ago - at which time the negative behavior had been happening for one year.
- 24 June 2016 This user has been blocked 2 weeks. The reason for the block is Another invalid ticket (ticket:2016060610017431) and another undel request based on a clearly invalid ticket. We are not talking about difficult cases open for interpertation but about major screw up after major screw up.. Natuur12
- 29 May 2016 You have been blocked from editing Commons for a duration of 1 week for the following reason: Intimidation/harassment. Christian Ferrer
- 26 April 2016 "It would be nice if you realized that other editors who spend a large amount of time here, as well as administrators and bureaucrats are here because they love this project and think it is important. Everyone makes mistakes, and it is good that we can all check each others' work - so please continue to do so, but your hostile tone and comments should be left at the door. Your "us vs them" attitude is not helpful..." Storkk
- In each of the previous two situations, promises were made to stop the behavior. However, every time the negativity and harassment starts up again, Amitie 10g blames me for the problem. See the unblock request above where the bad behavior is apparently required because of something I did. This is classic abuser behavior; do something and blame the victim. If I didn't constantly try to "forgive and forget" I could list these events with metronomic regularity - and the list would be over 2 years in duration. It used to get worse around holidays, now it's just troublesome all the time. I have recently gotten abrasive talk-page correspondence from Amitie [1] where I am accused of "blaming the backlog" but that comment doesn't appear in the conversation or the Deletion Nominations to which it references. It appears this upset note was left from imagination, not from any statement of mine. And it's this repeating behavior of imagining that I'm doing "bad actions" shows Amitie 10g is not operating within COM:AGF. This manifests in the hostility mentioned by Storkk above and also the intimidation/harrassment referenced by Christian Ferrer.
- I have not seen that the prior blocks have improved the behavior. Therefore, I have no faith that shortening this block - even with "promises" - would change anything - none of the prior blocks has had any effect on the negativity.
- Thus I oppose removing or shortening this block and am participating in the discussion on the Administrators Noticeboard, Blocks & Protections which relates to this block[2]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ellin Beltz (talk • contribs) 14:35, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Ellin Beltz, Daphne Lantier, Yann, Steinsplitter, MichaelMaggs, Hedwig in Washington, and Fæ (who participated at the AN) and also @StorkkNatuur12, I answer the above comment form Ellin Beltz.
- I need to apologize for my rude comments, but not without complaining you.
- You started yor comment with «This has been going on for two years», so, what is the exact moment? This. I provided strong rationale to keep the file, including the raster version nominated and withdrew, but you insisted to keep your point and insisting the file is non-free but not actually why (but, also, that discussion bringed another issue: SVGs can be copyrightable).
- I left some messages to you:
- End of 2014, simple and kindly: You speedied some files clearly bellow the Threshold of originality. You answered with «I don't think they're free images, they're certainly not own work», but you failed to answer if these files are bellow or above the TOO. These files remains deleted. This was much before the Bethelem Steel logo case.
- Early August, 2015, the Betlehem Steel logo case. Large concensus got.
- Mid March, 2016: Free software screenshot but with non-free content. Deleted for invalid reasons, restored, then deleted for valid reasons. The Free software nominations case is understable.
- Mid April, 2016: Not own work. Nominated for deletion due is claimed as Own work, but the actual author died in 1943. Everyone know this is a wiki, and the mistakes can be fixed, but not in the "Deletion way". WP:BITE is an important guideline in Wikipedia that should also be implemented here; most of the newcomers don't know how to edit the page and correct the authorship, and a non-sense DR does not help the newcomers nor the project.
- End of May, 2016: So, this mass DR became Me anger, I admit. You nominated 174 files without even checking these files has been uploaded originaly several years ago (some of them more than 10 years). If nobody took the time to review the DR, I see a serious risk of deletion. (and notice that I found the DR during my License review jub, not because I'm stalking you). Whith these kind of cases is hard to stay mellow.
- Early August, 2016: Almost one year passed since you nominated the Betlehem Steel logo, but you continued to misunderstand the Threshold of originality:
- File:TractionLogo.png, sourced as Own work, and:
- Tagged as Copyvio by Blythwood (a human),
- I removed the speedy tag and added {{PD-textlogo}} and {{Trademark}} because I believe it is bellow the TOO in the United States,
- You reverted my edition,
- I reverted your edition and mentioning clearly the logo is bellow the Threshold of originality in the United States
- You added {{No source since}}
- Jcb removed the {{No source since}} and corrected the author
- File:West Lafayette High School logo.png sourced from Google (no valid source strictly talking), and:
- Tagged as Copyvio by Krdbot (a bot),
- I removed the speedy tag and added {{PD-textlogo}} and {{Trademark}}, and corrected the authorship
- You reverted my edition,
- I reverted your edition without leaving a summary
- You added {{No source since}}
- Clindberg removed the {{No source since}} with the summary «PD-ineligible does not need a source.»
- So, what we learned with the Betlehem Steel logo case?
- End of Marh, 2017: I left that comment because I'm one of the involved users. For the following files:
- You repeated exactly the same actions done at File:TractionLogo.png and File:West Lafayette High School logo.png and nominated for deletion just because someone (Me) removed the Speedy tag (and for File:Al_Tantura.jpg adding {{PD-Israel}}) instead of providing information why these files are not in the Public domain. What was your motivation for these nominations? If you felt harassed for my comment, I also felt harassed for these actions, you know?
- About the «"blaming the backlog"», this is a general issue for some admins, and the reason why Jcb is the centre of a Desysop discussion (not just yours) (and where I participated actively, but with this block, I can't participate any more). And about COM:AGF, I already requested an explanation above for the files I edited and you reverted. I edited these files in good faith, and you?
- An apologize should come with a change of behaviour, but from both. I agree is hard to work together if one of the us don't cooperate (sometimes Me but also the others, specially Jcb and the discussions I also involved). I'll not harass again, but this does not mean I'll not complain you for the cases I already involved. --Amitie 10g (talk) 01:28, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Ellin Beltz, Daphne Lantier, Yann, Steinsplitter, MichaelMaggs, Hedwig in Washington, and Fæ (who participated at the AN) and also @StorkkNatuur12, Comment for the block:
- I need some rest and time for other projects, but I don't and I will not consider to leave Commons. I'm already established here and I created some tools to help in mi job. However, the toxic environment caused by my anger behaviour is unacceptable. So, I'll accept the block for the time the community estimated convenient (if possible, no more than 6 month please). For the prohibition to participate in DR/Speedy discussions, this is the major part of my job at Commons, but if the Community decided that, well, I could participate in limited manner and only in the files I already involved (uploaded or License reviewed by Me). But, please don't be surprised if I return with an Undeletion request as the last time; I'll still reviewing my Watchlist periodically. --Amitie 10g (talk) 01:28, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
- You need to focus on your own poor behavior here, which is the reason you've been blocked. As a blocked user, your talkpage is not the place to repeat your problems and disagreements with Ellin Beltz. You need to stick to explaining how you intend to resolve this issue with your behavior. I don't see you saying much about how you're going to deal with these issues differently. If you continue to go on about Ellin's faults and mistakes or anyone else's, I will remove your talk page access.
Please stick to explaining how you will change your confrontational and argumentative behavior. This is what the length of your block depends on. I will add that if you are allowed a shorter block (6 months to 1 year maybe), you will have to resolve your issues with Ellin Beltz and anyone else you deal with in a constructive and respectful way when you come back. You can make your point with out resorting to confrontation, sarcasm, and disrespect. If you are allowed to return to editing at some point, you will be expected to behave in a much different way than what you've been doing.
You have good knowledge of policy and copyright, and you can be a constructive and positive contributor to Commons. You will have the opportunity to use that knowledge to discuss things calmly and respectfully. I would suggest that you focus on that rather than what you think Ellin Beltz or any other user has done wrong. They're not the ones who are blocked. I would like to see you contributing in a good way here at Commons. If you can focus on giving the community assurances that you will return to Commons after 6 months or a year with a new approach and a new attitude, that will be more to your benefit than defending your old stances that have led to multiple blocks. Daphne Lantier 07:24, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
- You need to focus on your own poor behavior here, which is the reason you've been blocked. As a blocked user, your talkpage is not the place to repeat your problems and disagreements with Ellin Beltz. You need to stick to explaining how you intend to resolve this issue with your behavior. I don't see you saying much about how you're going to deal with these issues differently. If you continue to go on about Ellin's faults and mistakes or anyone else's, I will remove your talk page access.
- I need some rest and time for other projects, but I don't and I will not consider to leave Commons. I'm already established here and I created some tools to help in mi job. However, the toxic environment caused by my anger behaviour is unacceptable. So, I'll accept the block for the time the community estimated convenient (if possible, no more than 6 month please). For the prohibition to participate in DR/Speedy discussions, this is the major part of my job at Commons, but if the Community decided that, well, I could participate in limited manner and only in the files I already involved (uploaded or License reviewed by Me). But, please don't be surprised if I return with an Undeletion request as the last time; I'll still reviewing my Watchlist periodically. --Amitie 10g (talk) 01:28, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
- Hi Amitie 10g, thank you for writing "the toxic environment caused by my anger behaviour is unacceptable". Being angry stops us from seeing the world clearly, and unfortunately it keeps us locked in our interior view. It may be helpful to think about finding a local Spanish Wikimedian who can help by discussing how you feel when you get angry. Having an off-wiki outlet by instant messaging or meeting up in real life for a chat, can help diffuse your emotions and help you reframe the problems you have been having with others. It's okay to ignore this website and put yourself first. If you do that, you'll probably find the problems you experience with others are more down to relying on using just the written word to talk to each other, where only a fraction of meaning ever gets through, and the fact this is not your first language.
- With regard to the block, I am sure you understand Daphne's point, the block is yours alone. In a block appeal you are not resolving any arguments with others. No matter how much others have faults, it is only your behaviour that should be under discussion. When you come back to editing, if you have a reasonable dispute with others, ensure you ask a third party to take a look, even informally, and then the easiest path is to follow that independent advice. If the issues are not fundamentally solved, despite following a dispute resolution process, just walk away and move on. The Commons project is a big place, we can easily stay out of each other's way if we want to.
- I see you helping with our collections, your name popping up on my watchlist, and it would be a shame to lose you, so do tackle your anger. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 08:25, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
- Hi, I would support a shorter block, but 1. you should evaluate why you are not able to discuss without being rude, 2. probably avoid any interaction what so ever with Ellin for a long period (at least one year). Regards, Yann (talk) 08:29, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
- Well, I agree with this block is needed to make more time for incoming important projects. I also agree with an interaction ban with Ellin Beltz (with few exceptions like discussions where I already participated), but she must also cooperate: I closed this and this DRs due has been opened by a well-known vandal. Afterwartd, she opened another DR with a near valid reason but invoking my previous closing, claiming I assummed bad faith when I closed these DRs as vandalism. She also supported another long-term abuser who nominated files uploaded by Russavia and accused @Fæ for sockpuppetry (where the vandal is also a confirmed sockpuppets and blocked in the English Wikipedia since 2014 due sockpuppetry), but despite the evidence against the vandal, she preferred to support him just because I commented the DR and left a message in his Talk page. @Daphne Lantier, is this not harassment? What hostile behaviour we're tralking about? --Amitie 10g (talk) 19:49, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- I've removed your talkpage access because of this new attack on Ellin Beltz. You just can't stop yourself it seems. Instead of saying what you will do different to resolve the issue you were blocked for (which is what a blocked user is supposed to use their talkpage for), you go right back to justifying yourself and saying what Ellin has done wrong. At the moment, I think the indefinite block will have stay in place. Daphne Lantier 20:04, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- Daphne Lantier, Ellin Beltz: Amitie should not have closed these DRs, and Ellin was right to reopen them. But you must recognize that the users who opened these are vandals. So I agree with Amitie that this edit by Ellin is not appropriate. Regards, Yann (talk) 23:30, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- Yann: But that remark you quote, was not to Amitie, nor intended to be at Amitie, it was to a sockpuppet, telling him to "not pay attention to the little man behind the curtain," I.E. "stop socking". That Amitie took it wrong isn't my fault, it wasn't on Amitie's page, addressed to Amitie or about Amitie except in his mind. It certainly wasn't my intention - I guess you haven't seen the movie either it's Wizard of Oz one of the last scenes where the little dog finds the wizard behind the curtain and the wizard bellows out "Pay no attention to the little man behind the curtain". Once you see the film you will see the applicability of snarking that at a sockpuppet; it has utterly no referent to Amitie as was said at the time. The edit which should be quoted is this one where I explained to Amitie that it had nothing to do with him and everything to do with Unfitlouie, the sockpuppet. Perhaps if Amitie quoted the diff for the end of the thread, not the beginning, you'd have realized I was making a joke - and not at Amitie's expense. CC: Daphne Lantier to stay in loop. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 01:07, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- Ellin Beltz: OK, my apologies. Please beware that cultural references may vary greatly between people, and I believe they are part of your conflict with Amitie, without excusing his behaviour. Regards, Yann (talk) 10:13, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- Yann: But that remark you quote, was not to Amitie, nor intended to be at Amitie, it was to a sockpuppet, telling him to "not pay attention to the little man behind the curtain," I.E. "stop socking". That Amitie took it wrong isn't my fault, it wasn't on Amitie's page, addressed to Amitie or about Amitie except in his mind. It certainly wasn't my intention - I guess you haven't seen the movie either it's Wizard of Oz one of the last scenes where the little dog finds the wizard behind the curtain and the wizard bellows out "Pay no attention to the little man behind the curtain". Once you see the film you will see the applicability of snarking that at a sockpuppet; it has utterly no referent to Amitie as was said at the time. The edit which should be quoted is this one where I explained to Amitie that it had nothing to do with him and everything to do with Unfitlouie, the sockpuppet. Perhaps if Amitie quoted the diff for the end of the thread, not the beginning, you'd have realized I was making a joke - and not at Amitie's expense. CC: Daphne Lantier to stay in loop. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 01:07, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- Daphne Lantier, Ellin Beltz: Amitie should not have closed these DRs, and Ellin was right to reopen them. But you must recognize that the users who opened these are vandals. So I agree with Amitie that this edit by Ellin is not appropriate. Regards, Yann (talk) 23:30, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- I've removed your talkpage access because of this new attack on Ellin Beltz. You just can't stop yourself it seems. Instead of saying what you will do different to resolve the issue you were blocked for (which is what a blocked user is supposed to use their talkpage for), you go right back to justifying yourself and saying what Ellin has done wrong. At the moment, I think the indefinite block will have stay in place. Daphne Lantier 20:04, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- Well, I agree with this block is needed to make more time for incoming important projects. I also agree with an interaction ban with Ellin Beltz (with few exceptions like discussions where I already participated), but she must also cooperate: I closed this and this DRs due has been opened by a well-known vandal. Afterwartd, she opened another DR with a near valid reason but invoking my previous closing, claiming I assummed bad faith when I closed these DRs as vandalism. She also supported another long-term abuser who nominated files uploaded by Russavia and accused @Fæ for sockpuppetry (where the vandal is also a confirmed sockpuppets and blocked in the English Wikipedia since 2014 due sockpuppetry), but despite the evidence against the vandal, she preferred to support him just because I commented the DR and left a message in his Talk page. @Daphne Lantier, is this not harassment? What hostile behaviour we're tralking about? --Amitie 10g (talk) 19:49, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Talk page access
editI have restored Amitie's talk page access, as I stated previously was my intent, after a discussion with him on IRC. Amitie has explicitly agreed to the following statement, by me, as the terms by with access was restored...
What I expect, for you to get talk page access back, is for you to agree to not continue to attempt to justify your behavior on the basis of actions by Ellin… even if she is wrong, you are responsible for your own behavior, and what Daphne said in response to your unblock request was spot on.
If you have an issue with someone elses behavior, the appropriate response is to complain about the behavior itself, not to attack the person or their motives.
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Block
edit- I think an eventual unblock should have some conditions to prevent you from consuming our energy the way you did before, e.g. on these fields:
- Personal attacks.
- Never ending ridiculous discussions in a large number of DRs with obviously mistaken arguments.
- Reverting of deletion taggings without converting to regular DRs (many copyright violations remained online because you removed the taggings).
- It should also be clear that if you would be unblocked (which I would rather not see happening, you just wasted so much of our energy over a long period of time), that this would be the last time. Jcb (talk) 20:59, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
- Personal attacks: it is done (I'm less busy and stressed now, therefore mellow)
- Closing discussions: I'l l be more minucious with the deletion-related DRs and I'll try to avoid DRs of files that I'm not watching (and at least out of my interests). I'll focus more in the License reviewing.
- Reverting of deletion tags: I'll avoid to do that (unless the tag is just vandalism, but also for invalid reasons and without strong proof of copyvio).
- Expecting the above for me, I also request the users and admins in general (specially Ellin Beltz, and specially you) to be more minucions when dealing with copyvio, according to the recent cases where you has been subject of a Desysop discussion. And please, PLEASE, don't use Russavia (or any other banned user) to justify your own actions (this is for everyone). Most of my personal attacks are not gratis, so, collaboration from everyone is required., specially the involved users arround my block --Amitie 10g (talk) 00:30, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
- Amitie 10g and I are often on the opposite sides of the table. I can live with that. I don't want to live with personal attacks, esp. below the belt. Those are, IMHO, blockable offences, often indefinite. I think we need to ask other contenders for comments as well. @Ellin Beltz, Christian Ferrer, Natuur12, and Steinsplitter: As a general vote, for now I tend to grant the unblock as long as it is clear that this is the last one and others approve as well. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 01:41, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose You wrote: "also request the users and admins in general (specially Ellin Beltz, and specially you) to be more minucions when dealing with copyvio" You are doing it again, even here in the unblock request you are continung with your rudeness toward Ellin Beltz for which you have been blocked for. --Steinsplitter (talk) 06:57, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
- Please see my answer to Ellin Beltz bellow. --Amitie 10g (talk) 01:06, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- Comment - Amitie, are you willing to struck this comment "also request the users and admins in general (specially Ellin Beltz, and specially you) to be more minucions when dealing with copyvio"?. You were blocked for what you did wrong and not for what others did wrong. Thus, emphasize on how you plan to conduct yourself if unblocked and how you will contribute constructively to this project without the need to attack other users. BTW....I don't think that accusing the blocking admin of COI is helpful. It seems you want to take advantage of their block (as sock of INC). Wikicology (talk) 15:16, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
- I already agree with the conditions by Jcb. Menawhile I'll be more meticulous when dealing with files, this is why I'm requesting the same for the rest (as I answered to Ellin Beltz bellow). --Amitie 10g (talk) 01:06, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose I oppose the removal of this block because this user is abusive, makes mistakes and blames other users which is typical abuser/bully behavior particularly because I have not seen them take responsibility for their own behavior and change the behavior. This user also makes up rules and applies them to others without following them personally. For example as above: "PLEASE, don't use Russavia (or any other banned user) to justify your own actions (this is for everyone)." And immediately the user has mentioned INC/Daphne's block as justification. From these post-block writings, I do not feel the user has changed behavior and that letting them back in will only start the drama all over again. In their absence, conversations have been professional, respect has been mutual and the absence of uselessly dramatic contributions to the deletion discussions has been not only apparent, but refreshing. I also oppose due to personal attacks both on me and other administrators. These are obviously not going to stop given that the above attempt to put preconditions on administrators of Commons. Looking only at these post-block writings, it's obvious that the problem is not mine, or anyone else's - but simply and obviously belongs to and created by this user. I would point out that we would never have had any of these discussions had the user's behavior been consistently polite, professional and in good faith. Additionally, it's impossible for myself or any administrator to be "minucious" as there is no such word in the English language and so, even if one were to agree to the above preconditions, they are meaningless. Ellin Beltz (talk) 18:01, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
- About to be minutious (call it meticulous, thorough or anything you like), you know the english is not my native language, but you know what I'm talking about. I don't want more drama, just collaboration for everyone. --Amitie 10g (talk) 00:58, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
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Talk page access 2018
edit@Taivo: Talk page access was removed in October 2017 with the rationale "unblock request was rejected". Considering the time elapsed, and that talk page access is rarely removed from accounts that are not globally blocked, could you please restore this user's ability to write on their own talk page?
As a point of information, it should be noted the involvement of Daphne Lantier (talk · contribs · logs · block log) not long before this account was blocked. The facts behind the sockpuppetry of 'Daphne Lantier' was not understood at the time of the first significant block. Regardless of the behaviour of Amitie_10g, this background may be relevant when considering a future unblock request.
Thanks --Fæ (talk) 22:14, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
- I am agree to enable talk page access, but not before @Ellin Beltz: agrees as well. Taivo (talk) 09:18, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
- I do not agree to talk page access. I do not agree to lifting this block at all - in any form or in any part. That an administrator now blocked was involved at sometime in the past is not a valid reason to overturn a block that was earned by the user on multiple occasions and in multiple locations. Ellin Beltz (talk) 15:39, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Ellin Beltz: Hi Ellin. In the light that there is no global block, nor any oversight issue, how is removing talk page access in this case supported by existing Wikimedia Commons policy? Thanks --Fæ (talk) 16:02, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, Fae I mis-edited or typed too fast. It should read: "I do not agree to [limit or remove] talk page access. I do not agree to lifting this block at all...". I was trying to show the difference between the two actions and mistyped. Ellin Beltz (talk) 23:25, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response. That makes sense. If there is a block appeal, then it is healthier for the applicant to be able to make the case openly rather than off-wiki, unless there are known oversight issues or this page gets misused for resurrecting unnecessary drama.
- @Taivo: there appears to be no rationale to keep this talk page closed. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 22:02, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, Fae I mis-edited or typed too fast. It should read: "I do not agree to [limit or remove] talk page access. I do not agree to lifting this block at all...". I was trying to show the difference between the two actions and mistyped. Ellin Beltz (talk) 23:25, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Ellin Beltz: Hi Ellin. In the light that there is no global block, nor any oversight issue, how is removing talk page access in this case supported by existing Wikimedia Commons policy? Thanks --Fæ (talk) 16:02, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
- I do not agree to talk page access. I do not agree to lifting this block at all - in any form or in any part. That an administrator now blocked was involved at sometime in the past is not a valid reason to overturn a block that was earned by the user on multiple occasions and in multiple locations. Ellin Beltz (talk) 15:39, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
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Los coordinadores de traducción de Wikimedia Commons, 09:42, 13 June 2018 (UTC)Yet another unblock request in good faith
edit- If the community would agree to lift this block, I think an unblock should come with clear conditions. At his moment the project is relatively calm and the working conditions are relatively good. This is very important for a project with such a high workload. We really should try to remain a good working environment. Jcb (talk) 20:19, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
- I would Support an unblock, if this user had issues in lets say the Commons: and Commons talk: Namespaces or in deletion requests in particular he could simply be added to Commons:Editing restrictions with a ban on all namespaces except for "File:", "File talk:", "User:", "User talk:", and the mainspace, plus an interaction ban with Ellin Beltz and if he behaves can request an unban from particular namespaces such as categories or something in a few months or few years from now. From what I could tell this was a highly productive user with very few bad uploads and all he wants to do is upload so a ban from non-upload related spaces would keep be able to please both sides. I'm not sure if I have a say in this, this user just seems like he could add valuable images, and if he can't start deletion requests I don't see what further issues he could cause. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 06:06, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
- Well, since I have pending discussions, I agree the editing ban for non-File: nor User: nor-(main) namespaces and related, and also the ban for Commons: namespaces except the Village Pump maybe (to discusse few pending discussions, specially related to Copyright in Peru and the controverted CC-GobCL cases), and the AN to report vandalism; DRs and UnDRs may be discussed at the IRC first, since I found some false positive deletions (unless an Admin tell me to answer a DR or open an UnDR, I'll refrain to edit there). I should be also able to answer DRs for files I uploaded (at least the files I own/created, even if the nominator is one of those users I have interaction ban), and editing templates and translations. For the Interaction ban, nothing to say, unless she asks me something in a discussion. --Amitie 10g (talk) 11:36, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose I do not support an unblock due to behavior of user, unnecessary drama and also that they created a lot more work for administrators due to their personal interpretation of the rules & policies of Commons. Ellin Beltz (talk) 20:45, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose per Ellin Beltz with regret. T Cells (talk · contribs · email) 10:04, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
- Support A year is a very long time to leave a user who is active on other Wikimedia projects blocked, especially on Commons where users can easily contribute without engaging in noticeboard drama. Were there a global ban there may be a case for leaving the indefinite block. We should recognize that after causing personal offence there will be some people that may never be content with seeing the account active again, however that Amitie has avoided socking or trying a clean start to get around the block, demonstrates that they have attempted to comply with policies during their year away and this request should be taken in good faith as presented. --Fæ (talk) 10:39, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
- Would you be open to an interaction ban (as in w:WP:IBAN) with Ellin? Also, would you be willing to just grit your teeth and go along with the common interpretation of policy? How about a ban on noticeboard drama? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:32, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
- As I mentioned above, I agree the Interaction ban. The rest, I would prefer to discusse in the IRC before making any mistake. --Amitie 10g (talk) 02:39, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
- Support Agree with Fæ, a year is long enough to give them a chance to prove they have changed. It would likely be best for Amitie 10g to stay away from Ellin, but they agreed to that. If ever needed, I am also willing to offer Amitie to come to my talk page to discuss issues where he has trouble figuring out how to respond, I may be able to help him convey the message in a more neutral way. Just an offer, Amitie doesn't have to take me up on it if he doesn't want to. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 14:56, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
- Taivo would you like to comment on this user unblock request? Regards T Cells (talk · contribs · email) 17:35, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
- During summer vacation I am semi-retired, but I agree with Эlcobbola's closing. Taivo (talk) 18:33, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose per Ellin Beltz.--Steinsplitter (talk) 17:39, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
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Notification about possible deletion
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Unblock request as active member of Wikipedia
editAnd please block Davod and delete the user page. --Amitie 10g (talk) 17:30, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Neutral - it's all a long time ago and even if we unblock them now we can always reblock them if they would continue the past behaviour - Jcb (talk) 17:46, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Elcobbola, I expected more comments before your closing few ours after my request. As I mentioned, I agree to edit under the restrictions recommended by the users in previous requests, and I already recognized my misbehaviour against fellows.
- So, if I remain blocked, could request fellows to upload files without being considered as bad faith actions? Thanks for the comments. --Amitie 10g (talk) 21:08, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Unblock requests do not require comments from others; they are reviewed by an administrator per both COM:BLOCK and {{Unblock}} based on their own merits. One notes, again, a complete and telling unwillingness to engage with the questions. Users who edit on behalf of a blocked user are eligible to be blocked for meatpupptry, as that is a deliberate use of an alternative account to circumvent a community sanction. Эlcobbola talk 21:22, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- The problem with your rationale is it seems to be based on actions rather than intentions. I come here with the intentions for collaborate, and Commons is fundamental complement to Wikipedia and Wikidata, where, once again, I'm actively collaborating. What about blocking an established user just because uploaded a file I needed for articles I'm contributing? If the user is not assuming bad faith, why should be blocked? If I'm come here with the intentions for collaborate, why decide the block based on past actions? The evidence of my intentions for collaborating are the several editions in Wikipedia and Wikidata.
- Also, the account Davod is still unblocked (and I already requested their block), that means I could use it for editing, but preferred to abstain using it as part of my block. At least, please take that request. Thanks again. --Amitie 10g (talk) 22:10, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- My comments are agnostic with regard to intent; a desire to upload useful images is not relevant to a block for harassment/attacks/incivility. Indeed, as any intellectually honest person would be aware, the latter is not excused by the former. I still don't see an answer to the questions and thus will not be entertaining this further. Эlcobbola talk 23:26, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- What did you mean with questions not answered? What questions? I already agree to edit under restrictions (in the File: namespace), and as I mentioned, avoiding the past behaviour means I'll avoid interaction with the users I harassed in the past and avoid participating ind discussions where potential harassment could ocurr. I don't want to harass, I want to contribute, and assumming good faith and the common sense are considered above any other policy (at least in the english Wikipedia). --Amitie 10g (talk) 23:41, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- My comments are agnostic with regard to intent; a desire to upload useful images is not relevant to a block for harassment/attacks/incivility. Indeed, as any intellectually honest person would be aware, the latter is not excused by the former. I still don't see an answer to the questions and thus will not be entertaining this further. Эlcobbola talk 23:26, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Also, the account Davod is still unblocked (and I already requested their block), that means I could use it for editing, but preferred to abstain using it as part of my block. At least, please take that request. Thanks again. --Amitie 10g (talk) 22:10, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
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Adding to the talk page trimmer
editHi, based on discussion at the administrator's noticeboard, there is a consensus to go ahead with adding user talk pages that are unattended to be processed by the talk page trimmer. These cosmetic changes trim unnecessary boilerplate text in standard notices, lower the template transclusion count, and will make this talk page readable and quicker to render for all readers, without losing any content. Other users have asked to be added to this housekeeping task for this reason.
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Unblock for a start over
edit- PS: Please keep my doppelganger account blocked even if my main account being unblocked. --Amitie 10g (talk) 17:21, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
- Elcobbola (and involved users), I am sorry for not previously answering the specific questions. I have taken the time to deeply consider them and reflect on my actions.
- Then, answering your questions...
- Why was my behaviour unacceptable? Because I'm acted disruptively (mistakes when commenting in DRs) and uncivil, making others (specially Ellin Beltz) feeling bad.
- Why did me not respond to warnings and blocks advising of the same? Because I've too busy, but also I have been neglected for my own behaviour, and I'm somewaht nervious when questioning me.
- Why should you believe this time is different? So, I cooled down, and I'm awaited for start over. I'm still active in other projects, constructively contributing (my block at Spanish Wikipedia was a stumble I don't want to repeat). Marcelo (the one who reported me) still believes and trust me as a good editor and I'm still welcome there, this is why I believe I would be welcome here.
- Thanks for understanding. --Amitie 10g (talk) 20:26, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
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Unblock request for Christmas
edit- Could you please explain what has changed since your last request? While I am glad to see that you are actively participating on other projects, you have been blocked elsewhere for similar behaviour Gbawden (talk) 12:29, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- So, the latest block in other projects are more as an unfortunated set of successes than an unambiguous disruption and harassment (the main reason I were blocked here), and as I'm were active in other projects with good contributions, I'm still finding another chance here to make good contributions under restrictions, as I'm already apologized for my past behaviour. Thanks for your consideration. --Amitie 10g (talk) 20:13, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- I continue to oppose unblocking of this user for all the reasons that have been discussed before as above ad infinitum. Having been the primary person on the receiving end of unpleasant behavior (as distinguished from anti-project behavior which resulted in the block by another administrator), I oppose unblocking and will continue to oppose unblocking this user. Ellin Beltz (talk) 22:13, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- So, the latest block in other projects are more as an unfortunated set of successes than an unambiguous disruption and harassment (the main reason I were blocked here), and as I'm were active in other projects with good contributions, I'm still finding another chance here to make good contributions under restrictions, as I'm already apologized for my past behaviour. Thanks for your consideration. --Amitie 10g (talk) 20:13, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
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Merry Christmas
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Yet another unblock request
edit- Question Why the sole posture of a sole, involved user should be used to resolve this unblock request in a concluyent way, without taking the input on a broader part of the community, rather than discrimination? And also, should be the latest user who blocked me (User:INeverCry) a consideration for the block? Thanks. --Amitie 10g (talk) 13:26, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
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