Talk:New Gods

Latest comment: 11 years ago by Bainst in topic Star Wars connections?

Utopia

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This may be nitpicking, but is it correct to call the planet New Genesis a utopia? That may apply to what is properly called (I believe) "Supertown", but the planet itself is (or was, depending) inhabited only by the Bugs and the New God Lonar, and I wouldn't call what the Bugs had a "utopian society." 24.163.208.79 13:29, 22 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Seven Soldiers of Victory: Mister Miracle entry?

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there was a hellova lot of major stuff and new developments with the New God's in Grant Morrison's SSOV (Darksield finding the anti-life equation, all the New Gods as hobos). However, I'm too stupid, don't know the history of the characters well enough to document it, and alot of stuff happened, anybody else up for it?

Star Wars connections?

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The whole section about the Star Wars/New Gods connection is nothing but speculation and fanwank. It shouldn't be on this page without proper citation. It's newsboard fantasy on par with Doctor Who fans finding connections to anything popular (exampe: When Mars Attacks premiered, a plethora of Who fans claimed that whoever wrote Mars Attacks HAD to watch Doctor Who because the martians were exterminating everyone and Rod Steiger's character shouted out "Annihilate! Kill! Kill!" which obviously referenced the Daleks). Pure fantasy and it should be removed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.171.48.97 (talk) 21:47, 19 February 2007 (UTC).Reply

While I like a good "fanwank" as much as the next nerd, I'd have to agree. 24.163.208.79 13:31, 22 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
"The Source" seems to be a blatant reference to "The Force". Has the creator ever mentioned any connection? 68.166.172.80 (talk) 01:55, 22 February 2009 (UTC)Reply
George Lucas has denied any connection, however the similarities are not "speculation". The similarities are several, and obvious; they should be included in the main article. Because they are obvious to anyone holding the two side by side, no citation is needed. --Bainst (talk) 06:48, 2 March 2012 (UTC)Reply
Unless you can provide sources for the similarities other than "Look at the comics and the films.", it's original research at best. The same for the claim that Lucas stating "Not an inspiration." - J Greb (talk) 12:12, 2 March 2012 (UTC)Reply
Fair enough. In progress. Bainst (talk) 21:09, 24 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Merge

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It has been suggested that Tales of the New Gods be merged into this article, please discuss. --Basique 04:24, 25 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

  • Merge and restructure. The merge from article looks like it should be part of the "Orion (comic book)" article since it is part of the publication. Inclusion here would need a section related to stories produced about the New Gods "in general". Even then it should be mentioned in the "Orion (comic book)" article, or section if that merge goes ahead, and cross linked to here. — J Greb 07:38, 25 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

I agree that this should go in the "Orion (comic book)" article, but not in the New Gods article. Toodiesel 23:38, 3 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

Why no reference to Kirby's "Hunger Dogs?"

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While much has been said about "Hunger Dogs" its importance, and controversy, I think it needs to be included with a mention in Volume Two (1984). The 1984 reprints were a promotional vehicle for the "Hunger Dogs" graphic novel which followed shortly after the last issue's conclusion. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Donssword (talkcontribs) 21:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC).Reply

Death of the New Gods

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Should we include a list of the New Gods who have died so far and the issues they died in? Ccm043 03:13, 22 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Incorrectly states that Darkseid reincarnates in DC Universe #0, when in fact he's seen in this form in the Seven Soldiers mini-series circa 2005-2006. Don't have all the refs in front of me now, but if no one has any objections, I'll put the change in in a few days. Jqgarcia (talk) 13:43, 17 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

Fair use rationale for Image:Newgodsvol1-7.jpg

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New New Gods

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I'm not sure if there are any additional resources out there to further validate the 5th world incarnations of the New Gods. It appears the "Super Young Team" would embody the Forever People, Lightray emodies the Ray, and the Tattooed Man as Metron, and materials to furth substantiate would help to provide New God direction, moving through Final Crisis. -66.109.248.114 (talk) 21:59, 8 November 2008 (UTC).Reply

Final Crisis Sketchbook featured new versions of the Forever People distinct from Super Young Team. Two more issues for them to make an appearance. Jqgarcia (talk) 13:45, 17 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

Image issue

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The fair use of image:Oldgodsdcu0.jpg in this article is questionable. Listed below is/are the reason(s) for this:
Significance: Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase, or its lack would significantly hinder, understanding the topic of the article. Full policy

This is really unrelated to where it is in the article.

If the above concern(s) can be addressed in light of the relevant policies and/or guidelines, the image use can be retained. If not, the image needs to be removed from the article.

The issue with Oldgodsdcu0.jpg has been addressed.

- J Greb (talk) 21:34, 3 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Image removed. - J Greb (talk) 12:34, 7 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

List of special contributors

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I see this section as unneeded cruft and so moved it here. --Xero (talk) 13:24, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

List of special contributors

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Title Artist Writer Issue
Jack Kirby's Fourth World Walt Simonson Walt Simonson 9
Jack Kirby's Fourth World Walt Simonson Walt Simonson 10
Jack Kirby's Fourth World Walt Simonson Walt Simonson 11
Jack Kirby's Fourth World Walt Simonson Walt Simonson 13
Orion Frank Miller 3
Orion Dave Gibbons 4
Orion Erik Larsen Eric Stephenson 6
Orion Howard Chaykin 7
Orion Rob Liefeld 8
Orion Art Adams 11
Orion Jim Lee 12
Orion John Paul Leon Kevin McCarthy 15
Orion Al Milgrom 18
Orion Eddie Campbell 19