Talk:Ukrainian Ground Forces

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WP:MILHIST Assessment

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A very nice start, with pictures of the ensign, and lists of the equipment. I recognize that the Ukrainian Armed Forces is quite new, but any expansion to the main (prose) section would be most welcome. LordAmeth 00:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Graphic of the Army Structure

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I'm currently working on a project to create graphics of the structure of the most important Armies. i.e. French Army; German Army; Italian Army I also want to make a graphic of the structure of the Ground Forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, but the information at this point is not sufficient, as there is no information how the units are structured (i.e. What Regiments/Batallions belong to which Divisions/Brigades, what type of units there are; and so on) Does anyone have this information- and also the Divisions/Brigades/Regiments/Battalions names and/or numbers and where they are based? Thanks noclador

Noclador, I'm actually very flattered by your initiative to create a graphic structure of Ukraine's army, but unfortunately I think you're right. Ukraine's Armed Forces are incredibly un-transparent and (To my knowledge) there is practically no information on -these kinds of structures, or none at least that were given to the general public. Other then finding someone who was actually in the army and asking them what number their brigade is and where they were stationed, I really don't think that you'll find the information that you require. Please keep trying, Bogdan 02:45, 24 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

I have some information which I have gathered for another project, but there is a lot of pieces missing and the information is only in Ukrainian. I can send it to you if you want to. Or I can send it when I have more information and it is translated to English.Ceriy 22:30, 19 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

I believe the new structure is like this:

Structure

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  • Land Force Command
    • Western Operational Command
    • Southern Operational Command
    • Territorial Directorate "North"
    • Military University "Lvivska Politekhnika"
    • Rocket Brigade
    • Land Force Command Support Units
    • 6th Army Corps
      • 92nd Mechanized Brigade
      • 93rd Mechanized Brigade
      • 55th Artillery Brigade
      • Corps Units
    • 8th Army Corps
      • 1st Armoured Brigade
      • 30th Mechanized Brigade
      • 72nd Mechanized Brigade
      • 95th Airborne Brigade
      • Artillery Brigade
      • Corps Units
    • 13th Army Corps
      • 17th Armoured Brigade
      • 24th Mechanized Brigade
      • 51st Mechanized Brigade
      • 25th Airmobile Brigade
      • Artillery Brigade
      • Corps Units
--noclador 20:10, 6 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Guards units

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Did Ukraine's army retain the designation of Guards units, like the Russian GuardsMichael Z. 2007-08-27 18:38 Z

They did all the divisions which had that designation kept them, I'l post a list here later. Ceriy 04:32, 7 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Airmobil

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By old information they had 1 airborne brigade(25-а окрема повітряно-десантна бригада), 1 airmobile brigade (95-а окрема аеромобільна бригада) and 2 airmobil regiments(79-й та 80-й окремі аеромобільні полки). Since summer of 2007 1 of the Regiments(79th) was reorganized into a brigade, and the 2nd should be reorganized soon also. Ceriy 04:32, 7 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Equipment

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I don't agree with many weapon systems that are listed in the article as being in Ukrainian army service. The BTR-3, BTR-94, T-72MP, T-55AGM were developed for export and there is no proof that they were deliverd to the UA armed forces. Same for the Russian BTR-90. As for the BMP-3, since there are only 3 or 4 vehicles around, I wouldn't mention them as major weapon system of the UA army; it's misleading. Regards. dendirrek (talk) 14:29, 19 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Update: Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych has said today: "Almost all the weapons in the Armed Forces of Ukraine need to be replaced or upgraded over the next three years".
Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:16, 23 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

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39th battalion

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There also seems to be a 39th battalion of the Dnipropetrovsk territorial defense not mentioned in this article. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 15:27, 29 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Size

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The quoted figure of "180,230 Personnel" is incorrect. This must refer to the entire armed forces, including reserves, not just the army.Royalcourtier (talk) 00:00, 26 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

What is actual size of the army currently? It says 260 000 one source, another says 204000, third source is 160 000, so which one is correct ??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.228.48.24 (talk) 02:46, 14 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

"Reform" section

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Should the section on reform be removed now that its become clear that no such "reform" ever took place (In fact it seems the exact opposite with the last few government's sabotaging the army) Tomh903 (talk) 22:04, 31 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

New 4th Reserve Army Corps

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Kges1901, the source mentions the 14th Armoured Brigade but does not mention the 60th, 61st, 62nd Brigades - what's the source on those? Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 20:52, 23 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Buckshot06 - See the corresponding article on the Ukrainian wiki. Kges1901 (talk) 21:08, 23 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

The second largest

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"Ukraine now has the second-largest standing army in Europe; Russia has the largest.

After a two-year crash course to rebuild its military, Ukraine has increased its active-duty ranks from 150,000 to 250,000 troops."[1]Pietadè (talk) 12:41, 18 December 2016 (UTC)Reply


  1. ^ Peterson, Nolan (9 December 2016). "The 2 Largest Land Armies in Europe Tiptoe to the Edge of War and Back". Kyiv: The Daily Signal. (France has about 209,000 active troops, Germany has about 176,750 active troops, Spain has about 133,000, Poland has about 101,500, and the U.K. has about 153,600.)

Orphaned references in Ukrainian Ground Forces

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I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Ukrainian Ground Forces's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "World Air Forces 2020":

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT 01:10, 7 August 2020 (UTC)Reply