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Category good sense
editAh, I was wondering for a while how I would go add categories in a Sandbox type of environment, like you did at User:Qwertyxp2000/Template:Auckland, New Zealand, but now that you stated the colons behind the category stuff, that makes a lot of sense. Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 19:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Qwertyxp2000, check out WP:COLONTRICK. —andrybak (talk) 19:58, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- I have seen this colon trick before, but hadn't known that I could do this in the context of sandboxed templates. Thanks for letting me know that page. Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 23:35, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I
editHey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review is now no longer accepting new proposals. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving RfA's structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:
- Proposal 2, initiated by HouseBlaster, provides for the addition of a text box at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
- Proposals 3 and 3b, initiated by Barkeep49 and Usedtobecool, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
- Proposal 5, initiated by SilkTork, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
- Proposals 6c and 6d, initiated by BilledMammal, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
- Proposal 7, initiated by Lee Vilenski, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
- Proposal 9b, initiated by Reaper Eternal, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
- Proposals 12c, 21, and 21b, initiated by City of Silver, Ritchie333, and HouseBlaster, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
- Proposal 13, initiated by Novem Lingaue, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
- Proposal 14, initiated by Kusma, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
- Proposals 16 and 16c, initiated by Thebiguglyalien and Soni, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the administrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
- Proposal 16e, initiated by BilledMammal, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
- Proposal 17, initiated by SchroCat, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
- Proposal 18, initiated by theleekycauldron, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
- Proposal 24, initiated by SportingFlyer, provides for a more robust alternate version of the optional candidate poll.
- Proposal 25, initiated by Femke, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
- Proposal 27, initiated by WereSpielChequers, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
- Proposal 28, initiated by HouseBlaster, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.
To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her), via:
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:52, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
Cats
editShould I be moving the cats to the doc pages when Im making them? I still have hundreds of pages left to create. Noah, AATalk 23:39, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hurricane Noah, yes. Please see the guideline Wikipedia:Categorization#Template categorization for details and syntax. Additional information is covered by Wikipedia:Template documentation#How to create a documentation subpage and Template:Documentation/doc.
- Please avoid putting templates into content categories, as per this RfC. —andrybak (talk) 23:43, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hurricane Noah, since the text of the documentation is the same on all the templates in Category:Pacific typhoon season button templates, you might want to consider creating a dedicated template for the documentation. See examples in Category:Documentation shared content templates. —andrybak (talk) 00:03, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Did I do this correctly for templates in Category:South_Pacific_cyclone_season_buttons? Noah, AATalk 00:53, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hurricane Noah, look good to me. Thank you for working on documenting these templates. —andrybak (talk) 01:02, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Minor simplification is possible in your approach: the subpage /doc is not needed if the whole documentation is done with a single template. Example: Special:Diff/1214112762. —andrybak (talk) 01:05, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hurricane Noah, look good to me. Thank you for working on documenting these templates. —andrybak (talk) 01:02, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Did I do this correctly for templates in Category:South_Pacific_cyclone_season_buttons? Noah, AATalk 00:53, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hurricane Noah, since the text of the documentation is the same on all the templates in Category:Pacific typhoon season button templates, you might want to consider creating a dedicated template for the documentation. See examples in Category:Documentation shared content templates. —andrybak (talk) 00:03, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
Reminder to vote now to select members of the first U4C
edit- You can find this message translated into additional languages on Meta-wiki. Please help translate to other languages.
Dear Wikimedian,
You are receiving this message because you previously participated in the UCoC process.
This is a reminder that the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) ends on May 9, 2024. Read the information on the voting page on Meta-wiki to learn more about voting and voter eligibility.
The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members were invited to submit their applications for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please review the U4C Charter.
Please share this message with members of your community so they can participate as well.
On behalf of the UCoC project team,
RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins
editHi there! Phase I of the Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:
- Proposals 2 and 9b (phase II discussion): Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA and Require links for claims of specific policy violations
- Proposal 3b (in trial): Make the first two days discussion-only
- Proposal 13 (in trial): Admin elections
- Proposal 14 (implemented): Suffrage requirements
- Proposals 16 and 16c (phase II discussion): Allow the community to initiate recall RfAs and Community recall process based on dewiki
- Proposal 17 (phase II discussion): Have named Admins/crats to monitor infractions
- Proposal 24 (phase II discussion): Provide better mentoring for becoming an admin and the RfA process
- Proposal 25 (implemented): Require nominees to be extended confirmed
See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron (talk), via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:08, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
Category:Film templates parameter issues has been nominated for splitting
editCategory:Film templates parameter issues has been nominated for splitting. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Bearcat (talk) 22:48, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
Editing user pages
editI have a very clear notice that states you are not to edit my user page unless you are me. Do not edit the user pages of other editors. Thank you. 9t5 (talk) 12:31, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @9t5, to clarify Special:Diff/1231890593 – your userpage as of Special:Permalink/1231617380 was put into Category:Wikipedia substituted templates. User pages are not templates. Therefore such categorization has to be suppressed, if templates such as {{substituted}} are placed on the user page.
- Per WP:UOWN:
pages in user space belong to the wider community. They are not a personal homepage, and do not belong to the user. They are part of Wikipedia, and exist to make collaboration among editors easier
– making the collaboration easier includes avoiding polluting the maintenance categories, such as Wikipedia substituted templates. - Other popular issues on user pages to avoid:
- misuse of HTML and wikitext causing so called lint errors
- pollution of the category tree of User namespace templates due to copy-pasting of wikitext, which most often happens with userboxes.
- Hope this helps. —andrybak (talk) 12:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Uploading this to wikimedia commons
editHello, Can you export File:Sun-Maid brand logo used in 1923.jpg to wikimedia commons? Gilimaster28 (talk) 23:03, 2 July 2024 (UTC) Gilimaster28
- No. I'll let someone else deal with that. Thanks. —andrybak (talk) 23:04, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
template help
editHey, I noticed you're an active editor, perhaps you can help me out. How can I have a template call a specific string from a given article using the start and end position number of the string (which I get using the findpagetext function)? JoeJShmo💌 03:56, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, JoeJShmo. Could you please clarify, what are you trying to achieve? —andrybak (talk) 07:21, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Say the Monkeys page has a 10 character string that is placed 150 characters - 160 characters from the start of the article. How can I call that line to my template? Say I wanted to use that line as a string in a function, how would I do that? JoeJShmo💌 08:39, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- JoeJShmo, this is a strange thing to want to do in a Wikipedia article, that's why I asked for a clarification.
- Do you have a real example? What is the purpose, the end goal? Please help me ensure we don't have an XY problem/miscommunication. —andrybak (talk) 08:49, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, I'm happy to explain. I have a template for the lead of a specific kind of article that is written about every president of the U.S., and I want the template to automatically grab certain information from the main page of the president, such as the file for his signature and his years in office. I can get the position of these bits of information using the findinpage function, but I don't know how to actually call the information itself. JoeJShmo💌 08:58, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- For signature, use wikidata:P109, see Wikipedia:Wikidata for how to do it. For years in office, just copy-paste them, because they aren't going to change in the future. —andrybak (talk) 09:47, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- It's a template designed to work for every president. The point of the template is to automate the information and to avoid copy-pasting. I believe I'm to understand that you don't know how to implement my request, and that's fine. Thanks for the response, and for the wikidata info! JoeJShmo💌 10:22, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- JoeJShmo, I do know, but I'm choosing not to tell you, because you shouldn't try to make such a template by parsing pages in the way you've described in the first message. If the template is needed on many pages, years can stored as data in a template or a Lua module.
- You can ask a wider audience at WP:VPT. —andrybak (talk) 10:46, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Interesting. Can you explain why? Also, it isn't feasible to store all the information in the template, as every article needs different information to be parsed. JoeJShmo💌 10:57, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Because it's brittle and hard to maintain. There are more robust and maintainable alternatives.
- For storing years, it could be a data template, just mapping the president to years. —andrybak (talk) 12:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure its that brittle. I suppose it depends how you write it. The function I wrote checked for the signature using the signature parameter in the infobox. JoeJShmo💌 20:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- But I'm switching over to using wikidata. The start and end year of presidency is also in wikidata. JoeJShmo💌 21:00, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure its that brittle. I suppose it depends how you write it. The function I wrote checked for the signature using the signature parameter in the infobox. JoeJShmo💌 20:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Interesting. Can you explain why? Also, it isn't feasible to store all the information in the template, as every article needs different information to be parsed. JoeJShmo💌 10:57, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- It's a template designed to work for every president. The point of the template is to automate the information and to avoid copy-pasting. I believe I'm to understand that you don't know how to implement my request, and that's fine. Thanks for the response, and for the wikidata info! JoeJShmo💌 10:22, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- For signature, use wikidata:P109, see Wikipedia:Wikidata for how to do it. For years in office, just copy-paste them, because they aren't going to change in the future. —andrybak (talk) 09:47, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, I'm happy to explain. I have a template for the lead of a specific kind of article that is written about every president of the U.S., and I want the template to automatically grab certain information from the main page of the president, such as the file for his signature and his years in office. I can get the position of these bits of information using the findinpage function, but I don't know how to actually call the information itself. JoeJShmo💌 08:58, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Say the Monkeys page has a 10 character string that is placed 150 characters - 160 characters from the start of the article. How can I call that line to my template? Say I wanted to use that line as a string in a function, how would I do that? JoeJShmo💌 08:39, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 25
editHey there, welcome to the 25th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter, covering all our favorite new and updated user scripts since 1 March 2024. We've got a ton of wonderful editors taking back their pitchforks today. Don't worry, for they come in peace, to forcibly fix and extend existing scripts you use with sheer passion. There's so many, them forks have got what's basically their own column now! gift us with some rows before it's too late Aaron Liu (talk) 04:00, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Got anything good? Tell us about your new, improved, old, or messed-up script here!
Featured script
edit- inline-diff-inline-patrol by Ponor is this edition's featured script. By loading diffs inline on every page that shows a list of changes, it implements the 2023 community wish m:Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Admins and patrollers/Inline diffs and inline patrol. Hopefully we won't need this script anymore soon, with the WMF's focus on the backlog...
Improve a script
edit- Many of our favorite scripts such as Fred Gandt/userResourceManager, Guarapiranga/search-shortcuts and Bradv/Superlinks haven't been updated for Vector 2022. You could be the one to change that!
- Elominius/media timer works, but its UI looks alien. Someone could improve it...
- To a lesser extent, the same goes for PrimeHunter/Search sort. I wish someone would integrate the sorts into the sort menu instead of adding 11 portlet links.
- We want...
- ...watchlist notices support for Aaron Liu/Watchlyst Greybar Unsin
- ...a tool to automatically fix CAT:BROKENREFs, preferably a fork/addition to TheJJJunk/ARA
- ...a fix/fork of DannyS712/SectionRemover to make it work
Requested scripts
edit- Automatically delink all duplicate links within the same section per MOS:LINKONCE.
- Collapsible parentheses in body text, which had a ridiculously long original request title and was accidentally moved to WP:US/L by me. Oops!
- An easily configurable script to add a link to the #p-vector-user-menu-overflow portlet with a name, target, and icon. This one should be a relatively easier one. I would do it myself, but I'm too busy rotting away on Celeste (video game).
- Preview an edit under the mobile viewport on desktop, with perhaps MediaWiki:Gadget-mobile-sidebar.js used for inspiration.
- ...and many more, all available at Wikipedia:User scripts/Requests. Jeeputer and Nardog have been the most active on the page in the past five months.
Updated scripts
edit- After the RIIJ update, Aaron Liu: Watchlyst Greybar Unsin has a dismiss button that allows you to mark an item as read in one click and cycle to the next Watchlist item.
- Lordseriouspig/StatusChangerImproved is just like Enterprisey's script, except you select your status from a dropdown instead of cycling through them with a button. The WMF operates out of car-centric infrastructure anyway. Shame!
Newly maintained scripts
edit- Aaron Liu has created Duplinks from Evad37/duplinks-alt; his fork adds a config variable to automatically highlight duplicate links on the loading of any page where the portlet link would've appeared.
- BilledMammal/Move+ expands the powers of User:TheTVExpert/rmCloser to include common procedures done with the art of moving pages.
- On a holiday? Somewhere? Gotta learn ye ABCs? CanonNi/StatusSetter puts the fun into Enterprisey/StatusChanger with a quadruple more statuses. That starts with a C!
- In our continuing trend(s?), DaxServer/DiscussionCloser forks DannyS712/DiscussionCloser to make it work. Sadly, this is the end of our lexicographic combo.
- Andrybak:
- user-tabs-on-contribs is a fork of User:Enterprisey/user-tabs-on-contribs for Vector 2022.
- Archiver is a fork of User:Enterprisey/archiver with automatic calculation of the destination archive subpage and with support for non-Vector skins.
- Quite coincidentally, Elli/OneClickArchiver has been forked from User:Equazcion/OneClickArchiver to work with the mw:Heading HTML changes.
- FlightTime/OneClickArchiver forks the same thing but also no longer nonsensically prepends {{clear}} to page archives.
New scripts
editPadlock for semi−move protection−designed by User:Chaotic Enby - Andrybak/Not around can help you mark talk pages of inactive users with {{not around}}.
- BrandonXLF/AddCopied automatically tags talk pages of pages you've copied between with {{copied}}.
- Bugghost/UserRoleIndicator adds text labels (which default to emoji) to user links that label the user's usergroups. Wow, that's a mouthful
- CanonNi/AlertAssistant adds a Twinkle-style dialog for alerting users about contentious topics.
- CFA/AttributeTranslation automatically tags articles translated from other places with appropriate attribution.
- In the defense of the 'pedia, the humble Jeeputer/defconIndicator adds the WP:WIKIDEFCON status to the toolbar.
- Tired of staring at a bunch of filtering text and waiting for darn filter logs to load? Msz2001/AbuseFilter analyzer can parse abuse filters into a visual syntax tree and evaluate locally on-demand!
- Polygnotus/DuplicateReferences finds references with the same link and displays the number of them along with a button to add the {{duplicated citations}} tag under the references section. Being lazy has never been easier!
- fastest gun on the net Ponor/really-quick-block really quick add to contribution lists three buttons awesome
- TheTechie/Help Me Tool is a quick and easy way of responding to {{help me}} requests.
- Per MOS:CONFORM, ZKang123/TitleCaseConverter converts all citation titles to... title case, unfortunately.