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"You've escaped justice for now,
but you can't escape it forever."
— Factchecker_atyourservice,
20 April 2017, [7]
Thank you for your work in Project Spaceflight
editThe SPFLT Achievement Patch | ||
Belated, but here's for all you've done for the project since 2004! Neopeius (talk) 02:05, 15 December 2020 (UTC) |
- Many thanks, much appreciated! Happy to help document the new space age as it unfolds! — JFG talk 16:01, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Have you any interest in the early days of the Space Race? Sputnik, Mariner, Gemini, and all that? We have a working group that is busily filling in the gaps. We even have our own Discord chat going. --Neopeius (talk) 23:10, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'm interested, although I lack time to edit and research these days. Happy to keep abreast of progress, and I may dive in occasionally. — JFG talk 12:50, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Have you any interest in the early days of the Space Race? Sputnik, Mariner, Gemini, and all that? We have a working group that is busily filling in the gaps. We even have our own Discord chat going. --Neopeius (talk) 23:10, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
"Wikipedia:POVFIGHTER" listed at Redirects for discussion
editA discussion is taking place to address the redirect Wikipedia:POVFIGHTER. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 February 23#Wikipedia:POVFIGHTER until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Crossroads -talk- 05:15, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
Mrs Calment and Mrs Calment
editHi JFG,
I have seen your important activity on Jeanne Calment's article and talk page (now archives 1-4). You did a very good job in enhancing the quality of the debate and article, but for some reason your effort waned after January 2020, which gave the opportunity for some POV-pusher to get his edit lasting one whole year. He removed key references. I tried to bring them back, but so is he (back). I am defending myself in the talk page but I will need support. The "conspiracy" bots don't seem to care about rational arguments.
Kahlores (talk) 05:30, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for your note. My editing activity is only occasional now. I have taken a brief look at the ongoing discussion and the current state of the article, and I have no time to contribute productively there. All I can say is that the disputed section currently looks too long. I see that some people are drafting a separate article about the controversy, which may be warranted. Whatever the outcome of that effort, I would prefer keeping things short on the main page, either by cutting tit-for-tat events as the controversy unfolded, or by writing a summary after such a page is forked out. I may help with that after the dust settles. — JFG talk 15:59, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
The Downlink – April 2021
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The Hubble Space Telescope was launched into low Earth orbit in 1990 and remains in operation. It was not the first space telescope, but it is one of the largest and most versatile, renowned both as a vital research tool and as a public relations boon for astronomy. The Hubble telescope is named after astronomer Edwin Hubble and is one of NASA's Great Observatories. |
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The Downlink – May 2021
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Michael Collins was an American astronaut who flew the Apollo 11 command module Columbia around the Moon in 1969 while his crewmates, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin, made the first crewed landing on the surface. He was selected as part of NASA's third group of 14 astronauts in 1963 and flew in space twice. |
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The Downlink – June 2021
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Article of the month.
Creola Katherine Johnson was an American mathematician whose calculations of orbital mechanics as a NASA employee were critical to the success of the first and subsequent U.S. crewed spaceflights. The space agency noted her "historical role as one of the first African-American women to work as a NASA scientist". |
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Category:Spacecraft launched by Saturn rockets has been nominated for deletion
editCategory:Spacecraft launched by Saturn rockets has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. fgnievinski (talk) 19:15, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Category:Spacecraft launched by Electron rockets has been nominated for deletion
editCategory:Spacecraft launched by Electron rockets has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. fgnievinski (talk) 19:17, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
editFive years! |
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- Thank you for your continued kindness and spirit, Gerda Arendt <3 — JFG talk 12:46, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
The Downlink – July 2021
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Lisa Marie Nowak is an American aeronautical engineer, and former NASA astronaut and United States Navy captain. Nowak was selected by NASA for NASA Astronaut Group 16 in 1996. She flew in space aboard Space Shuttle Discovery during the STS-121 mission in July 2006. In 2007, Nowak was involved in an incident that led to her dismissal from NASA and the Navy. This article was promoted to featured status last month! |
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Offical portrait of Edwin E. Aldrin Jr. (Buzz Aldrin) who was the pilot on the Apollo 11 mission. This image was promoted to featured status last month! Members New Members:
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The Downlink – August 2021
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Article of the month.
Shuttle-Centaur was a version of the Centaur upper stage rocket designed to be carried aloft inside the Space Shuttle. Two variants were developed: Centaur G-Prime and Centaur G. The powerful Centaur upper stage allowed for heavier deep space probes, and for them to reach Jupiter sooner. However, neither variant ever flew on a Shuttle. |
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Shuttle-Centaur was a version of the Centaur upper stage rocket designed to be carried aloft inside the Space Shuttle. Two variants were developed: Centaur G-Prime and Centaur G. The powerful Centaur upper stage allowed for heavier deep space probes, and for them to reach Jupiter sooner. However, neither variant ever flew on a Shuttle. |
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The Downlink – September 2021
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Article of the month.
Apollo 7 was the first crewed flight in NASA's Apollo program, and saw the resumption of human spaceflight by the agency after the fire that killed the three Apollo 1 astronauts. The Apollo 7 crew was commanded by Walter M. Schirra, with command module pilot Donn F. Eisele and lunar module pilot R. Walter Cunningham. |
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Official portrait of Ilan Ramon, an astronaut killed during the failed re-entry of the Space Shuttle Columbia. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021
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Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.
Copyright violations are also a serious issue. Most non-regular contributors do not understand why, and most of our Reviewers are not experts on copyright law - and can't be expected to be, but there is excellent, easy-to-follow advice on COPYVIO detection here.
At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.
There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.
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New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022
editHello JFG,
At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.
Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.
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New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
editHello JFG,
- Backlog status
At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000[a] at the end of May.
Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.[b]
In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).
While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).
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You made the same point 3 years ago very ellequently
editAnd since you lost that discussion or gave up I just feel Ive wasted a full day of my vacation on something pointless as if your argument didn´t convince people I don´t know what will. "Thanks Onceinawhile for adding a column showing whether any claim of sovereignty by an occupying power is recognized internationally. It proves the point that occupations and subsequent annexations are almost never recognized internationally, at least not before decades, and sometimes never until the territory acquires stateship itself (see Baltic states under the Soviet Union or East Timor under Indonesia). Accordingly, international recognition cannot be a criterion to determine whether an occupied territory has been annexed or not. — JFG talk 10:15, 14 July 2018 (UTC)" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_military_occupations/Archive_5
What makes you still motivated to edit Wikipedia and why do you think that people didn´t accept this argument? A quote that comes by is that most people don´t listen to hear and understand but to reply. I.e. they are set to reply and argue even before they hear the other side. If that is the case, whats the point of even having Wikipedia articles for politicized sections?83.252.116.25 (talk) 09:01, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hi there, not sure you'll see this as I'm replying late and you may not be monitoring my talk page. To your point, it is well known that reaching consensus on Wikipedia is a tiresome endeavour. When a discussion about a longstanding issue has stalled, you can take a step back, reframe your arguments in a concise fashion, and launch an RfC. Then, people interested in the subject matter, beyond the article's regulars, have 30 days to discuss the specific proposal made in the RfC, and an uninvolved editor will assess the consensus reached or lack thereof. It's not just a numbers game, as RfCs are evaluated on the strength of arguments presented and compliance with Wikipedia content policies, not just on how many people say yes or no. Hence the RfC process is not a vote. I do have some expertise in conducting RfC on complex subjects, so I'd be happy to help draft the question appropriately, and get the process rolling. Have a great day, and don't quit the 'pedia! — JFG talk 09:19, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Side note: you should really create an account: it facilitates discussion with your fellow editors, and it actually gives you *more* privacy than exposing your IP address as is the case with your contributions so far. — JFG talk 09:19, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hi. I wasn´t monitoring this page, no! As I gave up.
- But thanks for the encouraging words anyway.
- I was considering starting a RfC and ask about how best to approach it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2022_July_27#How_do_I_start_a_proposal?) but couldn´t be bothered in the end.
- On the topic I found an interesting short note from the EU that I think ultimately covers what the opposing side may have been trying to argue, under all the source pushing (which as you correctly reflected on earlier, could be done in either direction). https://www.europarl.europa.eu/thinktank/en/document/EXPO_STU(2015)534995
- ..."in particular if the occupied territory is also illegally annexed. Legally speaking, an illegally annexed territory is occupied."
- This ties in with articles such as these: https://www.justsecurity.org/83365/stop-saying-annexed-territories-altern
- The guy had me all the way to the bottom of the article rooting for him, until it felt like he pulled the rug under my feet.
- Even in a situation where the person, an academic, understands that the "situation on the ground" is equivalent to something (in this case annexation) they would rather sacrifice language on the altar of orwellian thought than give any kind of ammunition to a bully, invader, occupier, etc as per the article. That position denies people their reality, it creates a sort of collective cognitive dissonance which can´t be helpful to anyone but an outsider.
- I feel, as it seems you do, that the word itself has meaning, and that it then in this case can be illegal or not. Ultimately its just one more pair of words being fought over in the age of the information war. A war I feel has no victors as it just makes fools out of us all.
- I stumbled over this by the way, because I was so annoyed at a small detail in a page I happened to visit that I had to comment on it, and then clicked on my IP again. Apparently the Wikiepdia page for the Fall of Mosul has a very poorly photoshopped picture of Mosul during its fall as the one and only descriptive image in it. I do wonder what happened to the original. I tried reverse image searching but can´t find it. I wonder if it had something gruesome on it, or why else would it be photoshopped? But ultimately I was just curious as to how it happened to have been selected at all! :)
- 83.252.116.25 (talk) 03:54, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
July thanks
editThank you for the Hannover thanks! - I'm doing many things besides Wikipedia and have pics from vacation days to offer Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:51, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022
editHello JFG,
- Backlog status
After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.
Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.
- Coordination
- MB and Novem Linguae have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out. MPGuy2824 will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.
- Open letter to the WMF
- The Page Curation software needs urgent attention. There are dozens of bug fixes and enhancements that are stalled (listed at Suggested improvements). We have written a letter to be sent to the WMF and we encourage as many patrollers as possible to sign it here. We are also in negotiation with the Board of Trustees to press for assistance. Better software will make the active reviewers we have more productive.
- TIP - Reviewing by subject
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- New reviewers
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editHi there, I was going through the archives related to Manned/Human spaceflight entries on Wikipedia and I saw your entry from 2018 "I understand the motivation, however I think we shouldn't retroactively change vocabulary. "Manned spaceflight" or "human spaceflight" has been a cultural symbol for decades; suddenly calling it "crewed spaceflight" because 21st-century polite society is wary of any gendered word would be anachronistic. We should rather follow the vocabulary used by contemporary sources: for those events where most WP:RS refer to "crewed" flights, then we can use that word, otherwise keep them "manned". — JFG talk 22:54, 19 February 2018 (UTC)" In any case, I wanted to commend you for making that argument and tell you I feel similarly. This new language that NASA is using seems to be coming from the right place, but may not end up leading us somewhere better down the road. I'm happy to talk more about my thoughts on this and hear what else you might say.
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- Hello and thanks for your comment. I haven't been active on Wikipedia for a couple years, so I'm not aware of recent editorial trends about human spaceflight. I do hope that the thought police has refrained from rewriting history in light of present-day sensitivity. In this domain and many others, I have come to believe that Wikipedia is hopeless, and the world needs an improved alternative. — JFG talk 02:41, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
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editSo I was digging through some history and trying to figure out why the SES satellite template includes "Yahsat 1A" and I saw that you added it: [8] As far as I can tell SES satellites only ever formed a joint venture for doing some broadcasting on the satellite and I wouldn't count that as an operator. How do you define satellite operator? Does it count if they're only using it as a distribution point? I would assume you need to have actual control of the satellite. Ergzay (talk) 21:55, 1 July 2024 (UTC)