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July music
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The story is today about the first published composition by Arnold Schönberg which I was blessed to hear. Listen, and perhaps read what Alma Mahler (to-be-Mahler at the time, to be precise, who was present at the first performance) said, and yes that was too much for the Main page ;) -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:40, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Today's story is about a Bach cantata premiered 300 years ago OTD. - A meeting of two women - the occasion of the cantata - is pictured in our local church. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:42, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
3 July is the birthday of Leoš Janáček, and I'm happy I had a meaningful DYK in 2021. It's also the birthday of Franz Kafka, and I uploaded pics from his family's album seen in Berlin. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:42, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
Libuše Domanínská, the subject of yesterday's story, would have turned 100 today, but I missed that ;) - Overnight, Tamara Milashkina became GA and Lando Bartolini went to the Main page. I made my story about his almost unbelievable career, from Luigi in Il tabarro in Philadelphia in 1968 (with a nod to Liberty) up to Calaf in Turandot in Beijing in 1999 ;) - 4 July is also the birthday of Brian Boulton who was a pioneer of a concise infobox in 2013. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:19, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Pictured on the Main page: Brian's Mozart family grand tour, my story today, and Mozart related to all three items of music on my talk: our 2023 concert, an opera in a theatre where a Mozart premiere took place, and those remembered, Martti Wallén, a bass, and Liana Isakadze, a violinist from Georgia (whose article would be better with more details about her music-making). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:36, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
My story today is - because of the anniversary of the premiere OTD in 1782 - about Die Entführung aus dem Serail, opera by Mozart, while yesterday's was - because of the TFA - about Les contes d'Hoffmann, opera by Offenbach, - so 3 times Mozart again if you click on "music" ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:13, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
Reverting an Edit
editCould you please elaborate as to why you reverted my edit? The name of the subject is Ngô Đình Diệm and thus, I changed every instance of 'Diem' to 'Diệm'. GeoGuru32 (talk) 13:08, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Generally it's best to use the form of a name that is also the corresponding article title. It's a bit of a mess with Vietnamese article titles though, so I don't blame anyone for trying their best. Remsense诉 20:29, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- I see. Alrighty, thank you. GeoGuru32 (talk) 20:56, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) comment: I am surprised by this view. IMO, GeoGuru32 was correct and their edit should have been allowed to stand. For technical reasons, article titles often dispense with diacritics that need complex combining codes, but know of no policy that says the the body must do likewise. We should not needlessly get orthography wrong. I can't summon up any examples right now but I am certain that there are quite a few cases where necessary errors in the article name are clarified in the body. Remsense, I think you should reconsider. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 07:47, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Technical reasons are not why Vietnamese articles are (or should be) titled as they are: that would presumably be WP:NC like with any other article. This is an English-language encyclopedia, there are only orthographic errors in the context of English orthography in running text. Remsense诉 14:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- @JMF I don't know how to thank on a talk page, so I'll type a message instead.
- Thank you very much! GeoGuru32 (talk) 09:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) comment: I am surprised by this view. IMO, GeoGuru32 was correct and their edit should have been allowed to stand. For technical reasons, article titles often dispense with diacritics that need complex combining codes, but know of no policy that says the the body must do likewise. We should not needlessly get orthography wrong. I can't summon up any examples right now but I am certain that there are quite a few cases where necessary errors in the article name are clarified in the body. Remsense, I think you should reconsider. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 07:47, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- I see. Alrighty, thank you. GeoGuru32 (talk) 20:56, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
Parameter normalization
editSome of the things I noticed:
- When there are multiple authors, this script removes the 1's from the first one and moves the others to the end of the citation. They belong together, and the juxtaposition 1/2/3 is clearer.
- Some editors (including me) find
|surname=and|given=easier to keep straight than|last=and|first=when dealing with a mix of Western and East Asian names. |postscript=logically belongs at the end.
But most of what it does is impose the script author's stylistic choices, contrary to the usual principle of not switching between acceptable styles. Kanguole 17:22, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Understood, thanks for making the difference in preference more clear to me. Remsense诉 17:23, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Here is an example of Citation bot restoring the 1's removed from parameter names by ProveIt. It's a recipe for eternal robot wars. Kanguole 10:02, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Did you mean: eternal robot wars? Folly Mox (talk) 11:10, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- That sort of thing, yes, though in this case both bots are user-triggered. In theory, the editors triggering them take responsibility for the edits, but in practice they never do. Kanguole 11:55, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Did you mean: eternal robot wars? Folly Mox (talk) 11:10, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisting discussions
editHi Remsense! I saw you relisted Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 9#Religion in China Redux, which you nominated. Please be mindful that relisting is supposed to be left to WP:UNINVOLVED editors, which you were quite clearly not in this instance. Just something to be careful of in the future. Best, HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:07, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Goodness, I feel I'm messing up constantly lately! Thank you, this somehow didn't occur to me. Remsense诉 03:29, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
A bit of help
editHi Remsense, hope you're having a great day! In June a tragic and deadly stabbing occurred in Suzhou, of a person targetting Japanese national leaving the Japanese School of Suzhou. A Japanese mother and child was injured, saved from almost certain death by a Chinese woman who died protecting them. The whole event made a huge wind of attention in China when it occurred, partially due to the nature of the attack but also the rhetoric by netizens.
I expected an English page to be made soonish after the events, however, that wasn't the case, with no page even now. I feel like this page is very important to have but I don't know if I have the ability or even mental strength to create/translate this page from Chinese. Could you be so kind to translate it, or inform someone who can? Thank you very very much. (here's the page in Chinese btw, or just search up 2024 Suzhou stabbing) Zinderboff(talk) 20:42, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, I will absolutely take a look. Thank you for making me aware of this. Remsense诉 20:49, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- There should be no shortage of RS for this article. Apart from Chinese and Japanese sources, a quick search shows articles from CNN BBC The Guardian etc.
Again, thank you for this, the whole affair really made me sad and lose hope in humanity a bit more than before. But I really shouldn't be surprised, though, seeing I too was taught since a child that the "Japanese were devils and the pinnacle of evil and destruction". Zinderboff(talk) 21:43, 17 July 2024 (UTC)- I usually don't write about current events at all, but I've got something started at User:Remsense/2024 Suzhou knife attack—feel free to add to it. I'm going to try and suppress my usual perfectionism with my drafting so I can get this published promptly. Remsense诉 22:49, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- There should be no shortage of RS for this article. Apart from Chinese and Japanese sources, a quick search shows articles from CNN BBC The Guardian etc.