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Thanks!
Thanks a lot! I would like ONE advice from you. pretty please...! THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 19:18, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- @ImmortalWizard: What would like advice about? Vanamonde (Talk) 19:19, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- Like in general, what can help with, what should I focus on, writing FAs etc. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 19:20, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- @ImmortalWizard: Okay then; the most obvious piece of advice is, avoid AN/ANI unless a discussion is about something you are personally involved. Little good comes of ANI threads in general; even less good comes of uninvolved non-admins diving into something they generally do not have the background knowledge to understand. Spend your time writing content; that's what we're here to do. If there's nothing you are personally interested in enough to work on, this is a good place to begin: this is another. Don't try going to FAC just yet, and don't nominate an article there unless you've added enough to it that you know the source material quite thoroughly. If you're still interested in maintenance work, then try new page patrol, or counter-vandalism. Leave the WP:CESSPIT alone. Vanamonde (Talk) 20:52, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- Have a look at my latest comment here for my insight. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 21:16, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- @ImmortalWizard: I'm not sure which of your comments on that page you are referring to, but MelanieN covered a lot of what I would say in response. Fundamentally, we are here to write an encyclopedia, and that's what you should be looking to do. ANI and AN are meant to deal with egregious disruption, and for that very reason, are best left to admins. They are probably the two most unpleasant and hostile places on Wikipedia. Being "correct" has virtually nothing to do with successfully dealing with conflict there. So, once again, please stay away from them. You said that you are autistic. I don't know where you fall on the spectrum you fall, but a fair number of people on it have difficult with social communication. If this is true for you, that's even more of a reason to stay away from the drama boards. Regards, Vanamonde (Talk) 21:39, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- Invoking WP:THERAPY will be probably rude but edits like this coupled with some bizarre edit-summaries don't instill any confidence. ∯WBGconverse 11:40, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- You don't need to wikihound and point out the errors. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 11:58, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- Invoking WP:THERAPY will be probably rude but edits like this coupled with some bizarre edit-summaries don't instill any confidence. ∯WBGconverse 11:40, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- @ImmortalWizard: I'm not sure which of your comments on that page you are referring to, but MelanieN covered a lot of what I would say in response. Fundamentally, we are here to write an encyclopedia, and that's what you should be looking to do. ANI and AN are meant to deal with egregious disruption, and for that very reason, are best left to admins. They are probably the two most unpleasant and hostile places on Wikipedia. Being "correct" has virtually nothing to do with successfully dealing with conflict there. So, once again, please stay away from them. You said that you are autistic. I don't know where you fall on the spectrum you fall, but a fair number of people on it have difficult with social communication. If this is true for you, that's even more of a reason to stay away from the drama boards. Regards, Vanamonde (Talk) 21:39, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- Have a look at my latest comment here for my insight. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 21:16, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- @ImmortalWizard: Okay then; the most obvious piece of advice is, avoid AN/ANI unless a discussion is about something you are personally involved. Little good comes of ANI threads in general; even less good comes of uninvolved non-admins diving into something they generally do not have the background knowledge to understand. Spend your time writing content; that's what we're here to do. If there's nothing you are personally interested in enough to work on, this is a good place to begin: this is another. Don't try going to FAC just yet, and don't nominate an article there unless you've added enough to it that you know the source material quite thoroughly. If you're still interested in maintenance work, then try new page patrol, or counter-vandalism. Leave the WP:CESSPIT alone. Vanamonde (Talk) 20:52, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- Like in general, what can help with, what should I focus on, writing FAs etc. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 19:20, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) My advice would be this - ImmortalWizard, stay off ANI before you get blocked. Working on cricket articles is fine, as is improving Ram Mohan Roy. Stick to mainspace. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:09, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- Ritchie333, there is no complete right or wrong. I should be able to participate ANI as long as I create no controversies and do something block worthy. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 12:13, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- @ImmortalWizard: That's now three administrators who have told you, quite nicely, to leave ANI alone, and you seem quite disinterested in taking that advice (even though advice is what you asked for). So, let me be a little bit more blunt. If your subsequent edits to ANI are as misguided as the ones you made to the TRM/Johnbod thread, you will end up blocked, or at the very least formally t-banned from ANI. Please, stay away from there, and avoid that path altogether. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:25, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- This thread had nothing to do with ANI to me. Admins themselves are wikihounding he everywhere. Of course I will ignore if they overly give "advice". Admins are supposed to be nothing more than regular editors who have access to some additional stuff. As long as I don't do anything wrong, no one can block me. If you look at Ritchie333, you can clearly see wikihounding. Hence, they should be warned. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 18:34, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- @ImmortalWizard: Ritchie is not stalking you; he (presumably) has watchlisted my talk page, as I have his. Furthermore, administrators frequently check up on the contributions of a newish editor, particularly one who is dabbling at ANI, because they want to help that user avoid further trouble. I'm quite concerned that you seem unable to understand this. "Wrong" is not a word I would use, but your previous contributions to ANI were disruptive, and you will be blocked if you continue in that vein. And really I don't want to prolong this conversation much further; just please reflect on what I and several others have told you. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:40, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- Just a final note before I leave: Ritchie is bringing have the same admin thread elsewhere such as User talk:EEng where it had nothing to do with ANI or disruption. I hope it was coincidental. Just because you are an admin, you shouldn't join any bandwagon without any reason. Admins and editors are basically the same, whereas admins get to clean more. That's it. How about this: If you anywhere bring the ANI stuff again, I will consider it tag team and and appeal for admin abuse. Any one can warn or give advice to anyone. If you have anything it say, feel free to come to my talk instead. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 18:48, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- @ImmortalWizard: Ritchie is not stalking you; he (presumably) has watchlisted my talk page, as I have his. Furthermore, administrators frequently check up on the contributions of a newish editor, particularly one who is dabbling at ANI, because they want to help that user avoid further trouble. I'm quite concerned that you seem unable to understand this. "Wrong" is not a word I would use, but your previous contributions to ANI were disruptive, and you will be blocked if you continue in that vein. And really I don't want to prolong this conversation much further; just please reflect on what I and several others have told you. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:40, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- This thread had nothing to do with ANI to me. Admins themselves are wikihounding he everywhere. Of course I will ignore if they overly give "advice". Admins are supposed to be nothing more than regular editors who have access to some additional stuff. As long as I don't do anything wrong, no one can block me. If you look at Ritchie333, you can clearly see wikihounding. Hence, they should be warned. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 18:34, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- @ImmortalWizard: That's now three administrators who have told you, quite nicely, to leave ANI alone, and you seem quite disinterested in taking that advice (even though advice is what you asked for). So, let me be a little bit more blunt. If your subsequent edits to ANI are as misguided as the ones you made to the TRM/Johnbod thread, you will end up blocked, or at the very least formally t-banned from ANI. Please, stay away from there, and avoid that path altogether. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:25, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
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Thank you
I won't disappoint. Atsme✍🏻📧 21:05, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Atsme: You're welcome. Happy editing. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:12, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – March 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2019).
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- The RfC on administrator activity requirements failed to reach consensus for any proposal.
- Following discussions at the Bureaucrats' noticeboard and Wikipedia talk:Administrators, an earlier change to the restoration of adminship policy was reverted. If requested, bureaucrats will not restore administrator permissions removed due to inactivity if there have been five years without a logged administrator action; this "five year rule" does not apply to permissions removed voluntarily.
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DYK for Theodora Kroeber
On 6 March 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Theodora Kroeber, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the 1961 book Ishi in Two Worlds by Theodora Kroeber told the story of Ishi (pictured), the last known member of the Yahi people? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Theodora Kroeber. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Theodora Kroeber), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Depth of understanding
Please help my English: what does "its depth of understanding" mean, in the Zuzana Marková (soprano) hook? I wrote the article but not that section, and have no idea. Looks like a strange translation from French to me, a language I speak even less than English. We had a simple hook, but not good enough for the critics, - no we have one that I don't understand ;) - I will sleep through most of it, - wondering - again - why European topics go to the first set on a day when we sleep. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:45, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- It's quite possible it's a strange translation, but I don't speak French, and cannot attempt to improve on it. It could be understanding of the role, of the character, of the music, of the vocal technique; I don't know. The interesting point was that it was a well-reviewed last-minute performance; I just made sure the hook said what the article does. If you think it's too confusing, I'm happy to reopen the discussion instead. Vanamonde (Talk) 23:00, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- I let it stand, also because of my deficiencies in English, but have no idea how a performance can have "depth of understanding", or what does "its" refer to if not to performance. Learning? - Btw, if you can get any chance to see her take it! I was lucky, and happy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:50, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
TFL notification
Hi, Vanamonde. I'm just posting to let you know that Ursula K. Le Guin bibliography – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for March 29. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 22:24, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Giants2008: Thanks, and I'll try to have a look at it before it goes live. Vanamonde (Talk) 00:37, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
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Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? (UK game show)
Hi there, Thanks for protecting Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? (UK game show). Pepper Gaming (talk) 18:15, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:16, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
RE
RE diff - kudos for reading and closing that huge ANI thread. While I presented a different arguement there - I understand your close - it simply got derailed every which way (and being opened on separate issues prior to being merged into one joint thread did not help). The topic does need an uninvolved admin willing to wade in (staying uninvolved on content). Icewhiz (talk) 20:43, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Icewhiz: You're welcome. The topic is certainly a mess; far too many individuals are unable or unwilling to separate their personal views from what RS say about a given topic. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:32, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- It is not that simple. I have been mainly gravitated to mediating on MEK (editing it directly fairly little) - and sourcing on MEK is both sparse - and all over the place on POV. It used to be designated as terrorist (heyday of Saddam) by most of the world except Iraq - now only Iraq and Iran consider them so. They have an odd ideology and all sorts of quirks. Even if you throw Iranian sources out (e.g. due to gvmt censorship on one hand, and MEK for being well MEK) you have wildly differing POVs in recent Western sources. Some of the other Iranian topics are simpler (e.g. the 2017-8 protests) - most of the Western sources speak in one voice. And sourcing is sparse - e.g. we haven't yet found a decent source for and Iran-MEK casulty estimate.Icewhiz (talk) 21:45, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- Oh, I'm aware of that. My point is that the tone of our articles needs to be determined by examining the whole body of decent sources, whereas editors in contentious areas tend to find a source that supports their POV and then ignore all others. That inability to see the broad picture is the root of the problem, in my view. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:52, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- It is not that simple. I have been mainly gravitated to mediating on MEK (editing it directly fairly little) - and sourcing on MEK is both sparse - and all over the place on POV. It used to be designated as terrorist (heyday of Saddam) by most of the world except Iraq - now only Iraq and Iran consider them so. They have an odd ideology and all sorts of quirks. Even if you throw Iranian sources out (e.g. due to gvmt censorship on one hand, and MEK for being well MEK) you have wildly differing POVs in recent Western sources. Some of the other Iranian topics are simpler (e.g. the 2017-8 protests) - most of the Western sources speak in one voice. And sourcing is sparse - e.g. we haven't yet found a decent source for and Iran-MEK casulty estimate.Icewhiz (talk) 21:45, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
March GOCE newsletter
Guild of Copy Editors March 2019 Newsletter
Hello and welcome to the March newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since December 2018. All being well, we're planning to issue these quarterly in 2019, balancing the need to communicate widely with the avoidance of filling up talk pages. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. January Drive: Thanks to everyone for the splendid work in January's Backlog Elimination Drive. We removed copyedit tags from all of the articles tagged in our original target months of June, July and August 2018, and by 24 January we ran out of articles. After adding September, we finished the month with 8 target articles remaining and 842 left in the backlog. GOCE copyeditors also completed 48 requests for copyedit in January. Of the 31 people who signed up for this drive, 24 copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. Blitz: Thanks to everyone who participated in the February Blitz. Of the 15 people who signed up, 13 copyedited at least one article. Participants claimed 32 copyedits, including 15 requests. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. Progress report: As of 23:39, 18 March 2019 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors have completed 108 requests since 1 January and the backlog stands at 851 articles. March Drive: The month-long March drive is now underway; the target months are October and November 2018. Awards will be given to everyone who copyedits at least one article from the backlog. Sign up here! Election reminder: It may only be March but don't forget our mid-year Election of Coordinators opens for nominations on 1 June. Coordinators normally serve a six-month term and are elected on an approval basis. Self-nominations are welcome. If you've thought of helping out at the Guild, or know of another editor who would make a good coordinator, please consider standing for election or nominating them here. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Miniapolis, Baffle gab1978, Jonesey95, Reidgreg and Tdslk. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.
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Hello Vanamonde93, it seems that Mountain157 isn't going to make a statement. They removed my message regarding the enforcement request. What is the policy for non-participating users? MrClog (talk) 14:43, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
- @MrClog: There isn't a specific policy for individuals who choose not to participate. Common sense would suggest that we give them the time to respond, but if they are active elsewhere and ignore AE, or disappear entirely when sanctions are proposed, the process is likely to just move on without him. Vanamonde (Talk) 17:15, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
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Congrats with your new A-class. Cheers mate. CPA-5 (talk) 19:50, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- @CPA-5: Thanks, much appreciated! Vanamonde (Talk) 19:50, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Biko
Hello Vanamonde93,
I see that there's some confusion regarding my edit on Biko, so I'll try my best to clear it up. Your edit states that the individual performers are not included within the album sleeve. The CD edition at the very least does in fact feature a comprehensive track by track rundown of the featured musicians. These are also included in the album's personnel section, where David Rhodes is listed as the sole guitarist. While Dave Greggory, Paul Weller, and Robert Fripp do play on the album, their contributions are included elsewhere. Dobbyelf62 (talk) 14:45, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Dobbyelf62: That is odd, because the source cited there explicitly says it isn't included. What year was your CD released in? If it was before the Drewett source, it is possible the source got it wrong. If it is after, then that is something we should add. In either case, the modification should cite the CD liner as a source; see footnote 36 at Karen Carpenter for an example of how to do this. Vanamonde (Talk) 15:49, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- Once I get my hands on my liner notes, I'll conduct that edit.Dobbyelf62 (talk) 15:59, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
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DYK for Ursula K. Le Guin
On 30 March 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ursula K. Le Guin, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ursula K. Le Guin once rejected an offer from Hayao Miyazaki to adapt her Earthsea series for the screen, but changed her mind after watching Miyazaki's film My Neighbor Totoro? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ursula K. Le Guin. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ursula K. Le Guin), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
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Awesome, making her GA! Thank you! - Lovely to share the page with Melitta Muszely! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:37, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: Many thanks! It was a lot of work, but worth it. I plan to take the page to FAC, once I get the chance to scrape through all my sources again...Vanamonde (Talk) 15:16, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- I'll watch with interest. Do you do GA reviews? I have a few open, for so long that I may forget what they were about. Look for !"quality" on my user page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:15, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: I certainly do GA reviews: I've been doing my best to do more reviews than I have GA credits, though I've been falling a bit behind of late. The trouble with GA reviews is that it's one reviewer evaluating everything; so I don't really like to do reviews for topics I'm not very comfortable with. I'll take a look when I have a moment, though. Vanamonde (Talk) 20:39, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Just asking and understand well. For the same reason, I don't do any GA reviews, because I don't feel I could really tell if prose has flaws. I do peer reviews and FAC, where I can comment what I notice. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:42, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: I certainly do GA reviews: I've been doing my best to do more reviews than I have GA credits, though I've been falling a bit behind of late. The trouble with GA reviews is that it's one reviewer evaluating everything; so I don't really like to do reviews for topics I'm not very comfortable with. I'll take a look when I have a moment, though. Vanamonde (Talk) 20:39, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- I'll watch with interest. Do you do GA reviews? I have a few open, for so long that I may forget what they were about. Look for !"quality" on my user page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:15, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Kak
Reverted your tagging; you cropped up after an IP reverted all of my edits to the article:-) ∯WBGconverse 14:35, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Winged Blades of Godric: No problem, but the tag is still valid; the parts you didn't write are based on sources written by him. I'm just stepping outside, so I'd appreciate it if you replaced it (or cleaned it up). Vanamonde (Talk) 15:53, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- Can you take a re-look, please? ∯WBGconverse 12:34, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Better now, certainly. Some of the language could use further cleanup, and I believe there's still a little too much detail. Vanamonde (Talk) 20:55, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Can you take a re-look, please? ∯WBGconverse 12:34, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
MfD where I quoted you
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Portal:Ursula_K._Le_Guin Legacypac (talk) 00:59, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
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I saw your answer in Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Rolling archive#01 April 2019. I agree with that, but in the specific case, anonymous users tend to add countries for fun or to complain that the country added does not participate. From my experience in Eurovision articles, it's never good faith. Plus, the specific anonymous user (with slightly different IPs) had been doing that for a few days (good faith edits aren't usually being re-made after a revert). Thanks anyway. —Dimsar01 Talk ⌚→ 20:54, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Dimsar01: Okay, fair enough. Next time, it would be helpful if you added a shorter version of this explanation when requesting protection. How IPs are treated is a touchy subject on Wikipedia; and false accusations of vandalism also frequently result in drama. In this case, your explanation makes sense, and protection was justified in any case; but a precise description of the problem, in my opinion, is often the best way to get a speedy response. I spent several extra minutes clicking through various IP edits to check whether they were, in fact, vandalism, before deciding that protection was justified. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:00, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
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Please comment on Talk:Achziv
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Please comment on Talk:The World Factbook list of developed countries
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Administrators' newsletter – April 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2019).
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- In Special:Preferences under "Appearance" → "Advanced options", there is now an option to show a confirmation prompt when clicking on a rollback link.
- The Wikimedia Foundation's Community health initiative plans to design and build a new user reporting system to make it easier for people experiencing harassment and other forms of abuse to provide accurate information to the appropriate channel for action to be taken. Please see meta:Community health initiative/User reporting system consultation 2019 to provide your input on this idea.
- The Arbitration Committee clarified that the General 1RR prohibition for Palestine-Israel articles may only be enforced on pages with the {{ARBPIA 1RR editnotice}} edit notice.
- Two more administrator accounts were compromised. Evidence has shown that these attacks, like previous incidents, were due to reusing a password that was used on another website that suffered a data breach. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately. All admins are strongly encouraged to enable two-factor authentication, please consider doing so. Please always practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.
- As a reminder, according to WP:NOQUORUM, administrators looking to close or relist an AfD should evaluate a nomination that has received few or no comments as if it were a proposed deletion (PROD) prior to determining whether it should be relisted.
About your admonition/strong request
Hi. I saw your "edit summary" directed to Vanamonde93. Please remember that the purpose of the edit summaries box is for people to write a summary about the edit they made so editors can read what was the edit about. It is very helpful to be mindful that the edit summary is seen by many editors, sometimes hundreds or thousands, not only one, so when you post a summary that is really a talk directed to one lone editor, that summary is not very helpful at all to the vast majority. In addition, generally editors are not required to consult before making edits if they have not been reverted for said edits, per WP:BOLD. Thinker78 (talk) 22:37, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Thinker78: First, the edit summary is directed at Gabel1960, but it does also contain most of the substance of my complaint; mass changes to content that has consensus. Being bold is fine the first time; but Gabel made a series of changes to multiple closely related articles, and was reverted. That is indicative that similarly substantive changes to a similarly reviewed closely related topic based on the same sources are likely to be contested. Second, I'm Vanamonde93; I assume you mean Gabel1960. Third, I don't often play this card, but explaining an edit summary to an admin who's been here for six years the same way you would to a relative newbie is a fairly good way to get an annoyed response; just food for thought. Vanamonde (Talk) 02:48, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Question
Hello! I have been making a lot of stubs for women artists lately, and plan to make more. I have done about a hundred so far (see my user page) and they are all still there, as they meet WP:ARTIST 4d: "in the collections of several museums or notable galleries". So far so good. I like the fact that people come along and add categories and do minor tweaks. Would having autopatrolled status mean those people would no longer see the page and add such tweaks? I was thinking autopatrolled makes sense to reduce workload, but only if these helpful editors still see the new pages and add cats or other valuable contributions. Thanks. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 07:52, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- @ThatMontrealIP: The autopatrolled flag removes creations from the queue designed for new page patrol. It doesn't mean nobody will see the articles; I'm fairly certain there are editors who also check articles already marked as "patrolled". However, the level of scrutiny is far lower; which is why autopatrolled is meant for prolific creators of articles that would be fine without any additional scrutiny. Which is why the bar for granting that flag is fairly high. If you think I made the wrong call, you're welcome to apply again; but my recommendation would be to first spend several more months writing, and making sure that your creations have no sourcing issues at all before you stop working on them. Regards, Vanamonde (Talk) 15:03, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- thanks, I have not applied for it yet. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 16:19, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- @ThatMontrealIP: My apologies, I got you confused with another editor (won't name them now) whose request I declined a short while ago, and whose profile was superficially very similar. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:32, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- thanks, I have not applied for it yet. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 16:19, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
WikuCup Question
Hey there. I recently had a DYK but don't seem to have gotten points for it. Did I do something wrong that the bot didn't pick it up? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:00, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Barkeep49: There was a formatting issue with your submission that I've now fixed, and hopefully that's that. It is possible the bot will have trouble because the nomination and the article don't have the same capitalization; if this isn't fixed by when the bot runs next, let me know. Vanamonde (Talk) 00:28, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Sobibór trial
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Comment on Kim Clijsters FAC?
Hi Vanamonde93, I am planning on nominating Kim Clijsters as an FAC once it passes its GA review (hopefully in the next day or so). Seeing as you helped out with getting Milos Raonic promoted to an FA, I was wondering if you could comment on the FAC. Thank you, Sportsfan77777 (talk) 21:45, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Sportsfan77777: Thanks for thinking of me. I am extremely busy in real life over the next two weeks. I will do my best to get to it after that, but I'm afraid I cannot make any promises. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:47, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, no worries. I'll let you know where it stands in early April, and maybe by then it will have a bunch of reviews. I've asked some other editors for help as well. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 06:15, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- Vanamonde93, as an update, I have received two supports from some other editors who I asked for help (plus one more likely support, pending that editor returns to Wikipedia in time). I think I still need one or two more sets of comments. Do you think you would have time to get to it in the next week or two? At the moment, I'm also still waiting to hear back from a few other editors who I asked in the past week that I didn't ask originally. Thanks, Sportsfan77777 (talk) 05:30, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Sportsfan77777: I'd like to say yes, as I've always admired Clijsters as a player and think she deserves a solid article; but I'm still completely swamped with work, and what time I have for Wikipedia is being devoted to other commitments and things I've been trying to work on for a long time. I won't rule it out, but don't count on it. Vanamonde (Talk) 06:54, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- Vanamonde93, as an update, I have received two supports from some other editors who I asked for help (plus one more likely support, pending that editor returns to Wikipedia in time). I think I still need one or two more sets of comments. Do you think you would have time to get to it in the next week or two? At the moment, I'm also still waiting to hear back from a few other editors who I asked in the past week that I didn't ask originally. Thanks, Sportsfan77777 (talk) 05:30, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, no worries. I'll let you know where it stands in early April, and maybe by then it will have a bunch of reviews. I've asked some other editors for help as well. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 06:15, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
Please see here. I am astonished by the behaviour of Amakuru, the kind of thing that drives people away from DYK. As the reviewer, would you please take an interest in sorting out what he has done? Thank you. Moonraker (talk) 13:14, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Vanamonde93, the new discussion Amakuru wanted for reasons he did not explain has gone off in many directions at Template:Did you know nominations/Harry B. Neilson. As foreseen, I am finding it a pointless waste of time. I wonder if you would like to try to wind it up? Thank you. Moonraker (talk) 14:54, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:People's Party of Canada
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Should have looked for alternative
Hi Venamonde. I noticed that you took down the pic from the article Carlos Castillo Armas due to copyright concerns. I share your concerns but it would have been good if you looked for and added an alternative picture instead of leaving a good article without a picture. --Thinker78 (talk) 05:56, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Thinker78: You assume too readily that I didn't look for an alternative. The one you added has exactly the same licensing problem; we have no way of demonstrating that it meets the requirements for the given license. I have therefore removed it. Having a picture of the subject isn't a GA requirement. Vanamonde (Talk) 14:00, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Damn copyright laws. --Thinker78 (talk) 19:17, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
WikiProject Basshunter
Hello. Could you restore Wikipedia:WikiProject Basshunter just for 6 or 12 hours? It was deleted without attention even I told in the discussion I want to save some stuff before it is deleted. Eurohunter (talk) 15:48, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Eurohunter: I've restored it to your userspace, at User:Eurohunter/WikiProject Basshunter. Feel free to retrieve material from it, but please note that you should not be recreating the page in the project-space without a significantly larger scope and more participants. Any recreation that isn't substantially different will be speedy deleted. Best, Vanamonde (Talk) 15:54, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Can I publish adjusted version on the Basshunter talk page? Sub pages could be recreated under Talk:Basshunter/Popular pages etc? Is it possible to recreate wikiproject template with rate on articles talk pages? Eurohunter (talk) 17:46, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Eurohunter: I am at a loss as to why you wish to do any of those things. The talk page is fundamentally meant for discussing improvements to the article. How will any of this help that purpose? Vanamonde (Talk) 17:49, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- It's kind of extension of the subject and summary in one place. This article is also the most viewed from the whole subject. Eurohunter (talk) 18:30, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Eurohunter: You are sounding more and more like you really want to just keep the project page in some form. That's not going to fly, because it was deleted after a discussion. Of course the Basshunter page is the "most viewed from the whole subject"; that's what the subject is. Why does that necessitate dumping a whole bunch of mostly-irrelevant material on the talk page? My personal recommendation would be to move the to-do lists to your own userpage or sandbox, and allow the rest to be deleted. Related projects are already linked on the talk page; the article quality link won't work without a Wikiproject; the categories and templates are already used in the article. All in all, there's very little unique content that's worth keeping. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:44, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- It's kind of extension of the subject and summary in one place. This article is also the most viewed from the whole subject. Eurohunter (talk) 18:30, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Eurohunter: I am at a loss as to why you wish to do any of those things. The talk page is fundamentally meant for discussing improvements to the article. How will any of this help that purpose? Vanamonde (Talk) 17:49, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Can I publish adjusted version on the Basshunter talk page? Sub pages could be recreated under Talk:Basshunter/Popular pages etc? Is it possible to recreate wikiproject template with rate on articles talk pages? Eurohunter (talk) 17:46, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Ishi in Two Worlds
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Ishi in Two Worlds you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Farang Rak Tham -- Farang Rak Tham (talk) 08:02, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
A Dobos torte for you!
7&6=thirteen (☎) has given you a Dobos torte to enjoy! Seven layers of fun because you deserve it.
To give a Dobos torte and spread the WikiLove, just place {{subst:Dobos Torte}} on someone else's talkpage, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. |
7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:53, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, 7&6=thirteen, I appreciate it (no ping, because the templates cannot seem to handle your username). Vanamonde (Talk) 18:10, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- You can reach me using [[User:7&6=thirteen]] thanks for your help on the REVDEL. I always send them in via e-mail. Streisand effect avoided. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:22, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- 7&6=thirteen: no problem, and thanks for your vigilance. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:31, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- You can reach me using [[User:7&6=thirteen]] thanks for your help on the REVDEL. I always send them in via e-mail. Streisand effect avoided. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:22, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Swedes
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Swedes. Legobot (talk) 04:26, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
Dates
Hi Vanamonde. Tbh I personally prefer the date form "2 June 1950" and not "June 2, 1950", because of the extra comma which I think interferes with the flow of the text. Thinker78 (talk) 19:26, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Thinker78: Personally, I prefer that too. However, I cannot be bothered to wade through WP:MOSDATEFORMAT, MOS:DATETIES, and all the other assorted guidelines to determine whether we can make a compelling argument to switch the format from that which was used before I began editing the article. If you are inclined to do so, please go ahead, and present your case on the talk page (which is where this discussion needs to be had). Vanamonde (Talk) 20:17, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
Help please
Hi. I saw you had warned User:Stefka Bulgaria. Can you help me against this user please? He keeps removing my section and still does not answer my questions. He seems like fighting. I wrote a section about the sexual abuse in MEK and some users helped me with correcting the problems. But User:Stefka Bulgaria is repeatedly removing and does not say why.Forest90 (talk) 04:55, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Forest90: I see that Stefka Bulgaria has now responded on the talk page. They also discussed it with you on their own talk page, and explained their reasons for removing the content. Those reasons have some basis in policy, so if you disagree with them, you need to discuss the matter on the article's talk page, and reach a consensus. If you are unable to do so, I would recommend trying dispute resolution, or opening an RFC. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:47, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- Vanamonde, Now that other users restored my section, he was forced to reply. I think that his/her explanation wasn't a good reason for deleting whole section. He/She tried to put off me as a newbi. I used reliable sources for my section, and also wrote very politely and carefully about the subject, as Wikipedia rules said.Forest90 (talk) 11:28, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Vanamonde93:, I just wanted to let you know.Forest90 (talk) 11:38, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- Well, now that there's a discussion going I don't want to get further involved. Please take a moment to read WP:NPOV carefully, and keep in mind that our policy about due weight refers to things reliable sources say in their own voice, not to allegations reported by reliable sources. Allegations without independent verification carry very little weight. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:36, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
Current event tag
Hi Venamonde. I was wondering if the "current event" template is appropriate to use on the article 2020 United States Senate elections and if not, is there another template that can be used to denote that the information may not be up to date or maybe mistaken. Thinker78 (talk) 22:44, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- The election is a year and a half away. I don't think any template is necessary at the moment; there's no reason to believe that page is any more vulnerable to being out of date than the general Wikipedia article. If there are specific issues with that article, you can used Template:Update. Vanamonde (Talk) 23:10, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Ishi in Two Worlds
The article Ishi in Two Worlds you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Ishi in Two Worlds for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Farang Rak Tham -- Farang Rak Tham (talk) 23:41, 21 April 2019 (UTC)