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MWT: Tank Battles (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Upcoming video game with only routine announcement coverage. Perhaps WP:TOOSOON. Charcoal feather (talk) 18:16, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sri Sathya Sai Loka Seva Trust Educational Institutions (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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This article has been around for 15 years and has not included reliable secondary sources showing notability (and I am unable to find any). Not to mention it's written in a promotional tone. I tried to remove the non-neutral wording but it does not leave much to indicate significance. ... discospinster _talk 17:56, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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David Merriman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Repeatedly moved from draft by conflicted user, this clearly fails WP:NFILMMAKER and WP:NMUSICIAN. Theroadislong (talk) 17:25, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Timothy O'Hagan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Does this pass WP:PROF? The citations for his books and papers seem limited so me, to the point where I am unconvinced of notability. Uhooep (talk) 16:54, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep. The article as nominated already had enough in-depth sources about his books (four about one and three about the other) for WP:AUTHOR. Citation counts are often not meaningful for academics in book-publishing fields. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:15, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lehi, son of Helaman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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No sources about this scriptural figure that go past stating what is said in scripture, which is not a reliable source per WP:RSPSCRIPTURE, and anyway are therefore not intellectually independent so do not contribute to notability. (going per WP:NBIO). — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 16:38, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lucie Heroldová (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Redirect to List of Czech Republic women's international footballers as ATD because I could not find any in-depth coverage of this women's footballer to meet WP:GNG. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 15:30, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect: Didn't find any WP:SIGCOV either. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 16:43, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wisconsin Underwater Archaeology Association (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I have been unable to find secondary, independent, reliable sources that provide significant coverage of this association. The only coverage is in news stories about ships they've found, and those focus on the ships, not the association. The founder of this association might be notable, since he is a published author, but notability is not inherited. voorts (talk/contributions) 15:01, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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City of Lions (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources (or really any coverage). toweli (talk) 14:57, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Robert Bolling Brandegee (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:NARTIST. Bbb23 (talk) 14:57, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This seems wrong to me. First Bbb23 removed all text from the article, then nominated it for deletion. See the version of 04:45, May 3, 2023‎ by GoodDay for what it looked like before all content was removed. It seems to me that Mr Brandegee was a minor painter but he did exhibit at notable venues (the Society of American Artists, the Exposition Universelle (1889), the Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts, the National Academy of Design, and elsewhere). As these were juried shows, he seems to meet at least notability citerion 4(b) "been a substantial part of a significant exhibition". with best wishes Daderot (talk) 15:17, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The material I removed was unsourced, but I should have mentioned it in my nomination statement.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:21, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Together Under One Sun (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Both the slogan and the event lack notability. There are barely any sources. StephenMacky1 (talk) 14:44, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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David Baden-Powell, 5th Baron of Gilwell (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Lack of notability. Note that the first cited source, which is the only one of any seeming solidity, is about the father of the article subject. TheLongTone (talk) 14:27, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Chalet Lizette Brannan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Article about a non-notable actress and philanthropist. Does not meet WP:NACTOR or WP:GNG. Has only played minor roles in movies. Jamiebuba (talk) 12:36, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jurij Viditsch (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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A 17th century Slovenian mayor is hardly notable enough to keep a page here. Although he was mayor of Ljubljana, the capital city of Slovenia, which could be grounds for some notability, no sources exist which make significant mention of his life or do anything more substantial than say his name.

Here are all existing sources I could find about him:

• [1] (which apparently consists of articles from Wikipedia according to this site here)
• [2] (only mentions him once)

The only page on Wikipedia that even makes mention of him is List of mayors of Ljubljana. If it weren't for similarly useless pages about mayors from Ljubljana's history whose pages should be deleted alongside this one, this page would be an Orphan. Fringe, Suspect The (talk) 12:30, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment. Slovenia was not an independent country at the time and Ljubljana not a capital. This weakens the case for NPOL. The first source mentioned above is very obviously a Wikipedia collection. Several other mayor articles are in the same dire state, including Horacij Carminelli and other successors. Many of these only duplicate List of mayors of Ljubljana and can be redirected there. In that list, a few other details such as birth and death year can also be added whereever known. Geschichte (talk) 12:46, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Completely agreed. Fringe, Suspect The (talk) 14:12, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Syndikalistiska Arbetarefederationen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The SAF was a splinter of the SAC which existed for 10 years, between 1928 and 1938, before merging back into the SAC. As far as I can tell from sources, it didn't do much other than criticise the SAC for certain tendencies it disliked. It has very little significant coverage in reliable sources. The cited SelfEd chapter (not what I would call a reliable source) gives it two paragraphs of attention.[3] Gabriel Kuhn's history of the SAC only devotes it a single paragraph.[4] This is the extent of coverage I have found in sources; no more. In both cases, it is only mentioned in the wider context of the SAC, not as an independently notable organisation.

As this article is unlikely to grow much larger than the stub it has existed as since 2008, I don't think this organisation is notable enough to merit its own article. If it needs to be discussed, we could very well give it a mention in the main article about the SAC. Grnrchst (talk) 10:39, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Note: Soman has just rewritten the article using a source I hadn't found, removing the previously-cited SelfEd source. Lennart Persson wrote 4 paragraphs about the SAF, which are more or less what you can see paraphrased in the article now. While I appreciate the attempt to rectify this, I'm still left thinking that this organisation isn't independently notable of the SAC and information about it could easily be merged into that article (albeit in summary style). --Grnrchst (talk) 12:46, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment, hi Grnrchst, I'm in process of rewriting the article. I'll see how far I get, and I'll address the AfD later today or tomorrow. --Soman (talk) 12:54, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks for seeing to this. :) --Grnrchst (talk) 13:32, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - article is expanded and sourcing improved now. From what I gather SAF was a notable phenomenon at its time, a militant union movement with thousands of members, with 50 local federations and a weekly newspaper. Eventually the organization was unsuccessful, but during its existence was notable. I'm looking at kb.se for newspaper clippings, which I can't access due to copyright, but the snippets are interesting. See [5], talking about a revolutionary strike called by SAF and the entire factory staff arrested. There are a number of other articles on the SAF in same newspaper (constituting in-depth coverage) seemingly on the same strike and the following court case. [6] Dagens Nyheter and [7] Aftonbladet followed the case. If we had full access to contemporary press archives, the article could be expanded and improved significantly. --Soman (talk) 13:40, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nintendo Network Service Database (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Doesn't appear to be notable outside Wii no Ma. IgelRM (talk) 09:47, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete per nom. GSK (talk • edits) 16:59, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Glossary of Germanic mysticism (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:GNG. This is a complementary list to an article that was redirected in 2018 for having no sources. Looking at the article, it consisted of original research and synthesis, and should probably have been deleted rather than redirected to Ariosophy, which it says constitutes one part of its subject.

There is no useful definition of what to include in the glossary; it says the list "should also not include terms not specific to German mysticism", but most of the entries are about runes or from medieval and early modern Icelandic culture. If we remove those entries, what we are left with are two entries from Ariosophy (Armanen runes and Armanen), one from a 1990s novel (Black Sun), one from 19th-century vitalism (Odic force), one from Nazi esotericism (Esoteric insignia of the Schutzstaffel), an academic field (Runology) and an outdated philological theory (Uthark theory). Rather than a defined subject, it comes off as a list of someone's personal interests at a particular point in time. Ffranc (talk) 09:09, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. :bloodofox: (talk) 09:15, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete per nom. No need of such a catalogue. Dympies (talk) 12:57, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment This isn't like the other articles in Category:Glossaries of religion. This is not a glossary but just a navigation list. Since it has no other information in it, is not more useful than a category would be. Dream Focus 14:43, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Baloch genocide (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The article has numerable issues, it relies on questionable sources, and as well as contains original research. But most of all, it seems to be a WP:POVFORK of Human rights abuses in Balochistan. It doesn’t have a really good verifiability argument. Any content that is reliable should be moved to the Human rights abuse page, as this page is better established and has more to say. This page just seems extremely unnecessary. VirtualVagabond (talk) 05:45, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: Not a single source refers to a "genocide" and barely any scholarly sources, usually news sites being used for making exceptional claims and commentaries which would need further review. WP:TNT applies. Would also support merging anything reliable to the Humans rights abuses in Balochistan page, which this article is a content fork of for which the reliability of content is to be first established per consensus. Axedd (talk)
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• Delete: Per nom. Fails WP:VER, WP: NOTABILITY and WP:RS. Sutyarashi (talk) 11:08, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Questionable sources and original research and a WP:POVFORK......Ngrewal1 (talk) 18:16, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: The topic is worth keeping as it does appear in academic literature, the article does need an overhaul, and as some commenters here know (due to their active work in the article), we have already improved it from it's poor initial state. As some examples of of the literature, from a quick search:

1. Sarwar, Azam (2024). "Living ghosts and the Laapata: the episode of genocide continuum in Pakistani art". Continuum: Journal of Media & Cultural Studies. 38 (2).
2. Nawaz, Maryam; Akhtar, Shahzad; Asghar, Muhammad Faizan (2023). "Drivers of Ethnic Terrorism: Case of Baloch Nationalist Movement (BNM)". Global Social Sciences Review. 8 (1).
3. Patel, Pinal; Sharma, Saurabh (2022). "Enforced Disappearances: A Major Human Rights Issue in Balochistan". Journal of Social and Political Sciences. 5 (4).
4. Zeb, Rizwan (2020). Ethno-political Conflict in Pakistan: The Baloch Movement. Routledge. ISBN 978-0-429-31813-9.
5. Muzaffar, Muhammad; Karamat, Sidra; Saeed, Khalid (June 2018). "Balochistan Insurgency: Causes and Prospects". Orient Research Journal of Social Sciences. 3 (1).
6. Dashti, Naseer (2017). The Baloch Conflict with Iran and Pakistan: Aspects of a National Liberation Struggle. Black Lacquer Press. ISBN 978-1-948288-10-1.
7. Mullick, Fatima; Cooper, Charlie; El-Badawy, Emman (2015). Shia Genocide: A Crisis in Pakistan (Report). Lord Avebury, All-Party Parliamentary Group on Human Rights.
8. Grare, Frederic (April 2013). Balochistan: The State versus the Nation. Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
9. Prakash, Aarushi (2013). "Peace or War Journalism: Case Study of the Balochistan Conflict in Pakistan". Strategic Analysis. 37 (5).
10. Dashti, Naseer (2012). The Baloch and Balochistan: A historical account from the Beginning to the fall of the Baloch State. Trafford Publishing. ISBN 978-1-4669-5897-5.
11. Wirsing, Robert G. (April 2008). Baloch Nationalism and the Geopolitics of Energy Resources: The Changing Context of Separatism in Pakistan. Strategic Studies Institute.
12. Bansal, Alok (January–March 2006). "Balochistan: Continuing Violence and Its Implications". Strategic Analysis. 30 (1).

-- Cdjp1 (talk) 20:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No source above deals with the topic "genocide" which this article is titled. The content here are mostly compilations from other pages such as Human rights abuses in Balochistan. Even the sources you've listed above do not have WP:SIGCOV of the topic and relevant content already exists at many related pages like Insurgency in Balochistan, First Balochistan conflict, Second Balochistan conflict, Baloch nationalism and the Humans rights abuses page etc, to which more of this can be added. The topic of this article simply fails WP:GNG for it to have a standalone article. Axedd (talk) 20:34, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1. Grodsky, Brian (2012). "When two ambiguities collide: the use of genocide in self-determination drives". Journal of Genocide Research. 14 (1). - also details the Balochi Provincial Assembly's accusation against the Pakistani central government in 2006 of genocide against the Baloch people in 2006.

In previous example sources they discuss the claim of genocide, or state the reporting of a genocide against the Baloch people. And again, these examples are from a very short cursory search. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 21:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge and redirect to Human rights abuses in Balochistan, as an ATD. Jdcooper (talk) 14:58, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  We’ve discussed that any valid information would be merged with that article.

  As a consequence of merging, this page has to be deleted. VirtualVagabond (talk) 17:06, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: Per nom. The article fails WP:VER, WP:NOTABILITY, and WP:RS. Additionally, it is already adequately covered under Human rights abuses in Balochistan. Any reliable content should be merged there. Ainty Painty (talk) 10:40, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment: After conducting a WP:BEFORE, it appears that the topic may meet the GNG, but the article is poorly written. TNT applies. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 07:56, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WhatsApp University (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The term is indeed used in India. However, I don't think it has scope beyond a definition. It can be easily integrated in Fake news in India#Modes of distribution (WP:CFORK). Although start-class, it pretty much looks like a future repository for dumping all fake news spread on WhatsApp. For serious cases, there is already Indian WhatsApp lynchings. Gan Favourite (talk) 14:31, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect per WP:NEO. The topic is better covered in Fake news in India#Modes of distribution, and the term is not separately notable. Many of the sources here just contain uses of the term but actually cover the topic (and not the term). Maybe merge a brief mention of the definition in the NDTV article. hinnk (talk) 04:03, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Based on the references added, keeping my !vote as is. These links [8][9][10][11] were added to support discussion of a Kerala High Court case. None of these mention the case at all, and none discuss WhatsApp University beyond using the phrase in a headline (two are political cartoons). The statement that "The phrase has…been a subject of stand-up comics" is referenced to a short review of a single comedian, where the topic is recapped very briefly. To Grabup's question below, the existing coverage isn't significant, and we're seeing how trying to present it as such means misleading readers. hinnk (talk) 05:38, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: i added some of WP:RS references. and this phrase clearly passes WP:GNG. Youknow? (talk) 12:26, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: Agree with @Youknowwhoistheman --BeLucky (talk) 13:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect I agree with @hinnk, the topic can be better covered in Fake news in India#Modes of distribution, other than the defination, there is not much to inside the scope of this article which cannot be put under the Fake news article. Xoocit (talk) 08:56, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: Enough sources are cited to establish the subject's notability. In my opinion, if there can be a standalone article with sufficient coverage, what is the reason to redirect? GrabUp - Talk 03:28, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep for now. Sufficient sources have been added to make a reasonable case for inclusion. I am somewhat dubious that this will develop into a full article, so a merge could make more sense down the road. We can cross that bridge when we get there.--Mojo Hand (talk) 14:39, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep: For now, however, should be reviosited and if still not fleshed out, should be Redirect as that would be the best move if there is still not much thereCassierREDDDD (talk) 07:54, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: It is a very common topic in India so it is notable. Perhaps a disambiguation page pointing later to the real Whatsapp University. Sectioneer (talk) 16:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Here's a stab at a source table. The strongest candidates appear to be a short article in the Navbharat Times, an opinion piece in The Hindu, and an in-depth blog post of questionable reliability. That last one is really a stretch, and I think we'd be hard-pressed to hit WP:3REFS. Even more so to get something large enough that it'd merit being split off from Fake news in India. hinnk (talk) 02:24, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Whatsapp University is a real University of India, They even have a Linkedin page

  https://www.linkedin.com/company/whatsapp-university/about/

  "A genuine global University with schools of Engineering, Law and Humanities. Aiming to be in QS Top 100 by 2033.
  

  Warning : Impersonators shall be Prosecuted or Shot." 106.210.38.218 (talk) 04:18, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge to Fake news in India#Modes of distribution; per WP:MERGETEXT. Not to say a term like this can't be used alone, see, e.g. Godi Media, a similar Indian term that has substantial references support - unlike here. Shotgunheist ^💬 05:20, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note, also, I just rolled back an addition about the actual "Whatsapp University" as it is patent nonsense with 4 followers on linkedin, and does not add to actual article notability being debated. Shotgunheist ^💬 05:32, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: the subject has been significantly covered by quite a number of sources, ToI, The Hindu, The Print, NDTV. Also covered by books such as 2019: How Modi Won India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.210.38.218 (talk) 06:27, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• EXPLAIN: On behalf the Whatsapp University I would like this listing for Whatsapp University to be remove ASAP. The Whatsapp University and Whatsapp College is well known brand names of Brahma University since at least 2016. Associating with BJP party and disinformation and misinformation by Wikipedia is causing a great confusion and commotion in minds of the students. Hope you understand and remove this listing in your online directory immediately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShymalWhatsappUniversity (talk • contribs) 09:17, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Royal Order of the Elephant of Godenu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The subject doesn't appear to have significant coverage in reliable sources. The references presently being used don't establish notability. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Royal Order of the Lion of Godenu for a related nomination. toweli (talk) 01:24, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - sources in the article mostly don't even mention the Order, and there doesn't appear to be even a single additional source available to help get it over the line. StartGrammarTime (talk) 07:20, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: there appears to not be a single source containing in-depth coverage of this, so far from WP:GNG. (Question by the way: Is there a specific notability guidelines for things like this? I haven't found one but they don't always have the names you would expect). — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 17:11, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Would You Fly to Paris for a Baguette? (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Very little in-depth coverage, 3/5 of which comes from EssentiallySports, plus a college newspaper and The Poke. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 04:19, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Is EssenstiallySports and The Poke even considered reliable? Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 05:04, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I’d be surprised, considering the quality of the material cited for this article. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 06:37, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They haven't been discussed on Wikipedia, if that's what you're wondering. C F A 💬 16:03, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

EssentiallySports and The Poke market themselves (respectively) as "with a fan's perspective" and "a place for comedy writers", so at a guess they aren't. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 17:06, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clue (information) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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As an article for concept of a clue, I don't really like. For a simple concept, it is as dull as an article for the concept of quality, say for, which there is not because that page is just a disambiguation page. Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictionary may provide explanations on how to improve this article, but I'm focused on deleting it. So, what do you think? QuantumFoam66 (talk) 03:57, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment: This type of article is known as a broad-concept article and they can often be hard to write without looking like dictionary definitions. Theoretically there probably should be another broad-concept article at Quality, but there isn't. Since this is such a common term, I don't see how this wouldn't meet GNG. C F A 💬 04:10, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep This article defines or gives examples of 1) the concept (information), 2) its different values (share/give/pay), 3) how it is relayed (discovered/shared), 4) its mechanic (ludeme/cheat), 5) its format (straight/cryptic/riddles/contradictions) 6) its etymology. All of this can eventually be expanded and more concrete exemples can be added. "clue" may seem to be a simple concept, but the article shows there are many aspects to it that may not seem obvious at first glance. Writing something that is obvious (or "dull") is because what is obvious to one reader may be a valuable insight to another. As stated in Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_a_dictionary#Major_differences, Wiktionary entries are about words themselves, while Wikipedia entries are articles about what words denote. This article falls into the latter category. --Bensin (talk) 13:17, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trina Broussard (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The subject fails the criteria for WP:SINGER. Subject also has no music chart history, notable awards, and notable featured articles. It might as well be delete for its lack of notability and significant coverage. Sackkid (talk) 03:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Royal Order of the Lion of Godenu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The subject doesn't appear to have significant coverage in reliable sources. The references presently being used don't establish notability. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Royal Order of the Elephant of Godenu for a related nomination. toweli (talk) 01:23, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Leaning Merge with Godenu. If this is notable, then there should be news/media stories about individuals who have been awarded this honor, or even obituaries mentioning it. A search of Google news and Bing news did not show any. If anyone knows of any Ghanan newspapers with such articles, that might change things. Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:02, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Marko Levishyn (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. LibStar (talk) 02:12, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom, lacks WP:SIGCOV as the sources is just databases Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 05:06, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Human Race Theatre Company (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The only coverage that I can find are announcements about the company from Dayton, Ohio sources which fails WP:CORP, including WP:AUD. SL93 (talk) 23:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. No significant coverage to prove notability. Prof.PMarini (talk) 08:56, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: This should be evaluated as a nonprofit rather than a corporation. Its legal name is The Human Race, Inc. See the Open Corporates page about the theatre company at https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_oh/678078 Eastmain (talk • contribs) 07:12, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per WP:NONPROFIT, they only serve Southern Ohio according to the article not on a national scale Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 00:48, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jon M. Sweeney (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Article appears to be promotional and has been edited extensively by user:Jonmsweeney, user:Jonmsweeney1234 and user:Friedsparrow, all SPA accounts who have also added Sweeney's name to other articles.

Much promo text has been removed since the article was raised at COIN [12], what remains is poorly sourced and it does not seem clear that notability criteria have been met. Axad12 (talk) 06:54, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep & fix article issues (or draftify). Yes, the article has had extensive edits by CoI accounts. However, as noted in the nom, much of the promo text has been addressed. Poorly sourced is not the same as unsourced, and it also is different from "unsourcable". A quick look through JSTOR shows that Sweeney is an often referenced academic in his field, and I think that the subject would be found to be notable with a little bit of effort. Fixing an article's issues is generally preferable to deletion (WP:ATD), and if that can't be done, it should be draftified. ButlerBlog (talk) 12:36, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Butlerblog

  Hi, yes point taken. Just to clarify on the issue of sources...

  When I said "poorly sourced" above I meant that some of the material is entirely unsourced and some of the sources that do exist are either written by Sweeney himself or are to YouTube or are promotional links to where his books can be purchased on Amazon.

  With regards to your comment re: "unsourcable", I think it's worth noting that the only person to have contributed to this article to any significant degree is the subject himself. If the subject has been unable to provide sourcing for basic info like his date of birth, place of birth, and details of his family history and educational history, then I think it's reasonable to assume that those details are indeed "unsourcable". Adding [citation needed] to that sort of thing would just be overly optimistic.

  So, it seems to me that there are genuine issues on the sourcing here for about 50% of the material in the current article. That being the case, I would also support your secondary suggestion of draftify.

  I take on board also the comments below re: reviews and WP:NAUTHOR. Axad12 (talk) 11:34, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Correcting myself, in my post above I said "The subject" but I ought to have said "the subject or someone editing on his behalf " Axad12 (talk) 12:02, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep and address issues. Sweeney meets WP:NAUTHOR as multiple books have been the subject of reviews in reliable sources. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 02:04, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. While there are COI issues it isn't TNT level bad, so there's no use deleting this when he is notable. PARAKANYAA (talk) 07:58, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Given the comments below, where is the evidence that the subject is notable? Axad12 (talk) 19:00, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I did find a few reviews of his books (and added one to the article). But most of his books are un-reviewed because citing Publisher's Weekly merely means that the book was published - PW's role in the world is to provide one-paragraph "reviews" (often no more than listings) to everything they receive so that bookstores and libraries can see what has been published. Those "reviews" do not provide notability. And even if he has a few notable books, an article about a person requires reliable sourcing about that person. I went through many pages of search results and did not find any independent biographical information. I can change my mind if someone finds that information. Lamona (talk) 23:49, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Lamona: Sweeney's book have been reviewed by PW, Kirkus, Booklist, and Library Journal, which are often used to establish notability. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 16:12, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  All of those are trade publications that review EVERYTHING. And their reviews are very brief. The policy says "non-trivial" and those are essentially the essence of trivial. Yes, they can be used as sources but no, they don't show notability. Aside from that, a review might show notability of an individual book, and this is an article for the author. "Wrote a lot of books" is not one of our notability criteria. Lamona (talk) 16:42, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]