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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Support. I note that the closer of the Otomo RM found that, "a style guide does not trump WP:COMMONNAME, nor does it override our obligations to avoid inaccuracies which may cause harm to living people." Fernando Danger (talk) 05:42, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support – MOS:JP makes exceptions for the spelling of real names, and exceptions for spelling and name order of the pseudonyms of athletes, artists and other famous persons. It should also make exceptions for the order of the real names of athletes, artists and other famous persons. And whichever order the article uses, it should have a redirect for the other one. There is never going to be a single rule, without exceptions, that covers all of the various ways that Japanese people want to spell their names. – Margin1522 (talk) 06:36, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose. That's what WP:COMMONNAME is all about. We follow the MoS (in this case GIVEN–FAMILY) unless sources overwhelmingly use a different form. A search for "asako toki" -"toki asako" gives 44,500 hits, versus "toki asako" -"asako toki" which gives 101,000 hits—but when restircted to English the hits drop to 37,900—many of which are still Japanese (the English hits are the only ones that count for en.wp). The reason I'm weak opposing is that I'm not a strong proponent of this aspect of the MoS—but as long as it is in the MoS, this move would be a violation. Curly Turkey¡gobble!11:43, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The case of Otomo Yoshihide is different because he says clearly on his personal website in English that he doesn't want to be called in the western order
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