Talk:Jacob L. Devers
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Quote in footnote removed
[edit]It is common, in some places, to use a footnote to add a colorful anecdote, or additional explanatory material, not fitting into the flow of the main document. That practice is generally not encouraged in Wikipedia, as far as I can tell. I posed the question here. While the full community has obviously not weighed in, the consensus appears to me that quotes should be revered for two related classes of use:
- In a case where there may be controversy about a particular fact, and whether the cited reference supports that fact, the use of the quote will make it easier for readers and editors to reach their own conclusion, by citing the specific quote used to support the fact. This is particularly important where a reference may be not online, or behind a pay wall.
- When an opinion is paraphrased, the quote will help readers and editors determine whether the paraphrase is accurate.
This article did have a quote in a footnote, and it is my opinion that the quote does not support either use listed above, thus I have removed it, or truncated it. Should anyone disagree, or feel that there are other examples of allowable quotes, feel free to start a discussion. I suggest here, if you disagree with my conclusion that this quote doesn't fall into one of those two examples, or at Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content#.22brief_verbatim_textual_excerpts.22_revisited if you feel there should be other allowed uses. --SPhilbrick(Talk) 16:48, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Incomplete
[edit]No mention of Devers as commander of U.S. 6th Army Group in France and Germany, 1944-45. 83.20.105.135 (talk) 12:05, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Capitalization of titles
[edit]@Hawkeye7: You say "Titles must be capitalised", but MOS:JOBTITLES says otherwise. The MoS is quite clear that lower case is used unless the position is followed by a person's name to form a title or is used as a substitute for their name, as in "... signed by President Trump", "... visited the Queen at Buckingham Palace", etc. Please restore my changes. Chris the speller yack 23:16, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
- Per MOS:JOBTITLES: When a title is used to refer to a specific and obvious person as a substitute for their name and When the correct formal title is treated as a proper name Hawkeye7 (talk) 23:24, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Hawkeye7: In none of these cases is the name of the job used to refer to a specific and obvious person or as a substitute for their name or treated as a proper name. "The Queen turned 90" in an article pertaining to the UK or "The King of France was guillotined" in an article about Louis XVI are OK, but "serving as senior field artillery instructor" is not even close to needing capital letters. If you do not see the difference, please leave my edits in place. Surely there are some errors in Wikipedia that you can find and fix. Chris the speller yack 22:05, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
- "Commanding General, NATOUSA" is indeed a title. Don't try to find and fix errors; write articles. Hawkeye7 (talk) 23:03, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Hawkeye7: In none of these cases is the name of the job used to refer to a specific and obvious person or as a substitute for their name or treated as a proper name. "The Queen turned 90" in an article pertaining to the UK or "The King of France was guillotined" in an article about Louis XVI are OK, but "serving as senior field artillery instructor" is not even close to needing capital letters. If you do not see the difference, please leave my edits in place. Surely there are some errors in Wikipedia that you can find and fix. Chris the speller yack 22:05, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
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[edit]He had expected the Germans to withdraw, and thought that the French First Army would be able to eliminate the pocket. He later admitted that he had underestimated both the German determination to hold it, and the strength of the French First Army.
- Are you sure you don't mean 'overestimated the strength of the French First Army'? Valetude (talk) 22:25, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Valetude: I checked the references, then modified the description of action around the Colmar Pocket to better align with what the sources say. Let me know if you have questions about my edit.
- Excellent, Bill. I just checked it out against Eisenhower's memoirs. Valetude (talk) 23:45, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
Treves
[edit]"where he attended the French artillery school at Treves". This is of course complete nonsense. No way that an elite French artillery school was based in Trier, Germany in 1919. 2A02:A450:26B7:0:C56C:6E1E:B7E6:3C2D (talk) 18:32, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Trier was occupied by the French from 1919 to 1930. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:25, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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