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DateProcessResult
January 24, 2019Good article nomineeListed
March 2, 2020WikiProject A-class reviewApproved
On this day...A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on February 20, 2021.
Current status: Good article

Johnny or Johnnie?

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I have it on good authority, that the name "Johnnie" was his nickname and this was the spelling. I have been told that he was named in similar fashion to another fighter ace Johnnie Johnson, who is also mentioned on Wikipedia. However, the articles on the internet do use Johnny more often, as so this has become the modern spelling. Really it does not matter so much, and I am quite happy with either spelling. Wallie 19:09, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Johnny was my father and his full name is John Milne Checketts. The above is correct in that Johnny is a nickname and goes back to when he was born all his family called him Johnny. Insofar as the spelling is concerned Dad always used the spelling "Johnny"

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GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Johnny Checketts/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Ed! (talk · contribs) 16:26, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Taking a look at this one. —Ed!(talk) 16:26, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]


GA review (see here for criteria) (see here for this contributor's history of GA reviews)
  1. It is reasonably well written:
    • Dup links, dab links and external links show no problems.
    • Copyvio tool returns a yellow result, likely just based on similar phraseology. Could the wording be rearranged a bit on some similar terms? ie., "when the German battleships Scharnhorst and Gneisenau made a high–speed dash from Brest to reach safety in German ports."; "hecketts led a section of four Spitfires against eight Bf 109s and destroyed three of them. The other three New Zealand pilots in the section each destroyed one and Checketts damaged one of the two remaining 109s"
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable:
    Not Yet
    • There's a strong reliance on the Orange ref, which which a third-party source, risks favoring the article toward one historian's viewpoint. I'd recommend it needs some additional sources. Don't need to remove any Orange refs, just that a few should be backed up with other books/views.
    • Could a few details be cross referenced in other sources, in order to prevent over-reliance on one? Seeing [1] [2] and [3], which adds some detail about his perspective on the war which would be helpful addition.
  3. It is broad in its coverage:
    Not Yet A few suggestions to place the detail here in context.
    • "although he had damaged others in the previous year he had never put in claims for them." -- Was this something he individually claimed or that historians later cite to him?
    • Any chance the DFC or DSO citations can be quoted?
    • For both No. 485 and No. 1, any chance for the size of the command, or what's typical for these kinds of units at the time?
    • Any number of missions or flight hours tracked anywhere?
    • " "university of flying",[65] and when he graduated in August 1945 it was with a "Distinguished Pass."[66]" -- note punctuation inside and outside of quotes. Can be one or the other, just needs to be consistent through the entire article.
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy:
    See above.
  5. It is stable:
    Pass No problems there.
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate:
    • One imaged tagged PD as appropriate. Is there a chance for more supporting images? Thinking aircraft he flew or a map of where he was shot down might be appropriate. Also thinking the engine preserved in the museum, if a photo is readily available.
  7. Other:
    On Hold Pending a few fixes. —Ed!(talk) 17:43, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect! It all looks great now. Based on this, going to Pass the GAN now. Thanks for your work! —Ed!(talk) 01:24, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

His statement to Nash

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The article says After the war Checketts, wanting to remain in the RNZAF, was encouraged by the Chief of Air Staff, Air Vice-Marshal Leonard Isitt, to consider a transfer to the RAF. Isitt advised that career prospects in the RNZAF were likely to be limited as it would be downsized considerably from its war footing. Checketts reaffirmed his desire to serve in New Zealand,[85] notwithstanding the comments of Walter Nash, the Minister of Finance, to expect a cut in pay. Nash's comments greatly angered Checketts, who pointed out that the government was quite prepared to pay more when pilots' lives were at risk serving their country when at war.[86]

I have bolded the statement I refer to in the heading. The number 86 referenc goes to Orange, Vincent (2006). Johnny Checketts: The Road to Biggin Hill. London: Grub Street. ISBN 978-1-904943-79-2 p 148. I don't have the book so don't know if it is a good paraphrasing of its content, but it differs from the message given elsewhere.

Here's a quote, attributed to Checketts, from a New Zealand Herald obituary of 28 April 2006, written by Arnold Pickmere -- "You were willing enough to pay us to die but you're not willing to pay us to live.

I can confirm that the same quote is in Orange. However, since I hadn't quoted Checketts anywhere else in the article, for consistency I chose the wording as above rather than use the quote. I'm not sure that the overall message differs though - the point is that in peacetime, pay in the RNZAF was less than when on a war footing. Zawed (talk) 03:31, 9 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]