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Seminole Heights Page
[edit]Hello. My edits were completely constructive and factual. They provide a source that the "official seal" of Seminole Heights is a hoax. It also provides the original source the false seal claims to have come from—the 1912 Hillsborough High School Yearbook. I have access to the yearbook and this false seal does not appear anywhere in it's pages, and the faked seal doesn't even have the company name correct. Please cease reverting my changes as they are valid and sourced. Thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 4thgenTPA (talk • contribs)
Seminole Heights
[edit]When the source claims an image as proof that a seal existed in a year book, the only source that can refute that is an image of the original, unaltered source. What other source would you like me to provide? Certainly any other source would be second hand in this case. This isn't an image that disproves another image as factual, it's not being provided as a source to make a claim.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 4thgenTPA (talk • contribs)
New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022
[edit]Hello Loriendrew,
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Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.
Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.
Software news: Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved.
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Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!
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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023
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- Backlog
The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.
- 2022 Awards
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Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!
Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)
New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js
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Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.
Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.
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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023
[edit]Hello Loriendrew,
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Backlog
Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.
Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.
WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.
Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.
You can review the AFC workflow at WP:AFCR. It is up to you if you also want to mark your AFC accepts as NPP reviewed (this is allowed but optional, depends if you would like a second set of eyes on your accept). Don't forget that draftspace is optional, so moves of drafts to mainspace (even if they are not ready) should not be reverted, except possibly if there is conflict of interest.
Pro tip: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own SNG? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is WP:ARTIST 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums).
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Synesthesia category
[edit]Hi. You reverted my category edit of Georg Anschütz since "Category is about topic, not a place for people with synesthesia", but Georg Anschütz is not a person with synesthesia but a researcher of synesthesia, as mentioned in the article. The Category:Synesthesia currently includes researchers of synesthesia such as Richard Cytowic and Joel Salinas. Furthermore, the current synesthesia category also includes Tilden Daken, a person with synesthesia. Are you sure this category should not include people with synesthesia? If so, would you please explain the reason? --saebou (talk) 22:51, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- The best place for that would be at Category:People with synesthesia. Unfortunately, that has been twice deleted, most recently via this deletion discussion. Start by having a look at WP:DISABILITYCAT.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 00:46, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Does that mean that Georg Anschütz can be added to Category:Synesthesia because he is a researcher? Furthermore, the other two people I added to the category, Patricia Lynne Duffy (author of Blue Cats and Chartreuse Kittens: How Synesthetes Color Their Worlds) and Daniel Tammet (author of Born on a Blue Day), both wrote well-known books about synaesthesia. The guideline you showed says that you cannot add people to the category "unless that condition is considered WP:DEFINING for that individual", and synesthesia is central to these two writers' writings. Synesthesia could be regarded as Wikipedia:Defining to these people, and if the category is about the topic, I think famous authors of the books on the topic should be included in the category. --saebou (talk) 08:03, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, the first two. Tammet's article shows synesthesia studies of him, not by him, and the book seems like a singular memoir–type whereas Duffy has a defined career incorporating synesthesia.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 21:55, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Does that mean that Georg Anschütz can be added to Category:Synesthesia because he is a researcher? Furthermore, the other two people I added to the category, Patricia Lynne Duffy (author of Blue Cats and Chartreuse Kittens: How Synesthetes Color Their Worlds) and Daniel Tammet (author of Born on a Blue Day), both wrote well-known books about synaesthesia. The guideline you showed says that you cannot add people to the category "unless that condition is considered WP:DEFINING for that individual", and synesthesia is central to these two writers' writings. Synesthesia could be regarded as Wikipedia:Defining to these people, and if the category is about the topic, I think famous authors of the books on the topic should be included in the category. --saebou (talk) 08:03, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
Igor Sikorsky
[edit]Hi! I would like to point out that your removal of my edit in Igor Sikorsky contradicts both Wikipedia:Write the article first and Wikipedia:Red link. According to Wikipedia:Write the article first editors are encouraged to write the article first before adding it to a list, template or disambiguation page. Igor Sikorsky is a bio that does not fall into any of these categories. In turn, Wikipedia:Red link even encourages the creation of this type of links, explicitly stating that red links help Wikipedia grow. Moreover, it also indicates that red links can be created to biographies of people who would likely meet Wikipedia's guidelines for notability. Ivan Sikorsky, described in six language editions of Wikipedia, certainly meets this requirement. Also note that Igor Sikorsky contains more links to non-existent articles, e.g. Sikorsky Avion Atlas or Sikorsky H-2. Therefore, I'm going to revert to my previous edit. Best wishes, Teukros (talk) 21:26, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
Please do not vandalise articles
[edit]It's FIVE times. [1]. 197.87.135.139 (talk) 12:39, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- You may be misunderstanding the term "vandalism" as you failed to support your change with a reliable source. The existing source only supports 4x.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 21:02, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
First
[edit]It seems you don't understand about the usage of names (for example family members). Yet you think you do. Delectable1 (talk) 10:21, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- See the Rhiannon Giddens article which you also edited. Note the usage of first names for her parents IN the article. Delectable1 (talk) 10:24, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- A more surgical revision of your edits have been made. Your undoing reintroduced the same spelling and styling errors, which you acknowledged in the edit summary, yet made no effort to repair. As for the usage of names, please look at MOS:SURNAME and MOS:SAMESURNAME for future guidance in your editing of in–article names.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 22:04, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
June 2024
[edit]Please refrain from removing content without adequately explaining why, as you did at 2006. Continued unexplained content removal may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. ItsCheck the 2nd (talk) 03:01, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Moving this discussion to your talk page where your edit warring behavior has already been discussed.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 13:18, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
ANI notification
[edit] There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Removal of content without adequate explanation, edit war, and personal attacks. Thank you. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:29, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
DYK for Patrick Gottsch
[edit]On 7 August 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Patrick Gottsch, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Patrick Gottsch, the founder of RFD-TV and The Cowboy Channel, led the effort to break the Guinness World Record for the largest parade of pickup trucks? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Patrick Gottsch. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Patrick Gottsch), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.