Drmies

Pictured on the Main page: Brian's Mozart family grand tour, my story today, and Mozart related to all three items of music on my talk: our 2023 concert, an opera in a theatre where a Mozart premiere took place, and those remembered, Martti Wallén, a bass, and Liana Isakadze, a violinist from Georgia (whose article would be better with more details about her music-making). -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

My story today is - because of the anniversary of the premiere OTD in 1782 - about Die Entführung aus dem Serail, opera by Mozart, while yesterday's was - because of the TFA - about Les contes d'Hoffmann, opera by Offenbach, - so 3 times Mozart again if you click on "music" ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:48, 16 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Today's story is about a photographer who took iconic pictures, especially View from Williamsburg, Brooklyn, on Manhattan, 9/11, yesterday's was a great mezzo, and on Thursday we watched a sublime ballerina. If that's not enough my talk offers the chamber music from two amazing concerts. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:52, 20 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia:Main Page history/2024 July 30b had a baritone, a violinist, a composer and a Bach cantata, - almost too much, and the composer's article, Wolfgang Rihm, improved much over the last days, could still grow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:32, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi, I see you've contributed a lot to Gassire's lute, would you be interested in joining a wikiproject on oral tradition? Kowal2701 (talk) 15:22, 25 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

• Hi--sure, it would be great if we had that. The user to ask, though, is User talk:KHR FolkMyth, who's been writing up stuff like there's no tomorrow. Drmies (talk) 17:02, 25 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Thanks, yeah I've already dropped him a message. So far have about 8, aiming for 10-15 Kowal2701 (talk) 17:41, 25 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Now have about 15 plus 5 that are interested but busy, dream's 50 lol Kowal2701 (talk) 22:03, 26 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Can you check to see if this user is a sock of User:Rayanmou07? Thanks. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 21:53, 26 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Never mind, I guess Abecedare blocked them. Anyways, I'm going to finish my 4,703,586 game of Temple Run. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 21:58, 26 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Back in January, you deleted this article by making it a redirect. FYI, recently another user restored an old version over the redirect. (I just restored the most recent version of text, figuring it was better.) If you care about deleting it, I suppose taking it to AfD would be the next thing you should try. -- R. S. Shaw (talk) 22:45, 26 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

• Yeah R. S. Shaw, I saw what you did. It was a terrible article when I redirected it, it became an even more terrible article, and now it's back to being a regularly terrible article. I don't "care about deleting it", but that phrasing is...well I don't care for it. The redirect was better than this article. Drmies (talk) 23:20, 26 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Interesting you mention the phrasing. Perhaps you can suggest better alternatives so I can improve such messages in the future. Thanks. - R. S. Shaw (talk) 04:31, 27 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi there. I made two separate tables of Olympic medal winners. I have a problem explaining to other people that Russia, Serbiaand Czech Republic inherited the medals of the former republics. On 31 January 1992, the United Nations recognized, without objection, Russia as legal successor of the rights and obligations of the former Soviet Union, FIVB (Volleyball World is FIVB site) is only official site. "Russia, including as Soviet Union, have won the world title a record seven times" Olympic source: "The Soviet Union’s foothold on the game was seemingly slipping, however, those doubts were laid to rest at the 1991 FIVB men’s volleyball World Cup, when 23-year-old Dmitry Fomin guided the nation to their fourth World Cup gold in what would be their final appearance as the USSR.After missing the 1995 FIVB World Cup they returned in the 1999 edition as Russia. Led by tournament MVP Roman Yakovlev, Russia finished with a record of nine wins and two losses, and won the country’s fifth FIVB men’s volleyball World Cup crown This is official Russian volleyball site I indicated all these references in the text about the Volleyball World Championship, but I was corrected and finally blocked (see history). So I have created two separate tables of references as done in the text All-time Olympic Games medal table. Thank you for your time, anyway. JohnWickChapter4 (talk) 00:07, 29 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

• Sure. You could have taken the time to explain what you were doing in edit summaries, and/or arguing your point on the relevant talk pages. Honestly the content of your argument really isn't interesting to me, on this here talk page, and I removed the URLs you dropped in here--messes up the formatting of my talk page. Drmies (talk) 15:03, 29 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

I was looking around in his evidence and seeing what this dude was talking about, tried to reply and you already had it gone. Good work. This man seems like he might be an issue. I like Astatine (Talk to me) 01:14, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

• Ha there's not really a need to respond to that kind of whining anyway. Yes, he tags me and a few others, cause he--well I don't know. He's begging to be unblocked while he's threatening to rape and murder me and my family. It's the dumbest thing you can imagine. If you see it again, report it at WP:AIV--there's not even a need to revert it, cause he'll just revert you. Those people get a kick out of that, like trolls on Facebook who think that yelling LIBTARD at people means anything in the world. Thanks, and take care, Drmies (talk) 01:23, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • I woke up this morning to a whopping 14 alerts. This guy never seems to learn his lesson. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 01:46, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
    • Yeah. I don't know what to say. Sometimes they're this tenacious, sometimes they're this thick-headed, but rarely both at the same time. Truly his mama must be proud. Drmies (talk) 01:49, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Just would like a straight answer thanks. I'll accept whatever you state. Wikipedious1 (talk) 02:04, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

I don't think Drmies will mind if I point out that what you attempted to add the article was not a "sourced incident of sexual misconduct", but a claim in an online magazine based on social media reports by a former girlfriend that misconduct occurred. Can you appreciate the distinction? When and if he is charged with a crime would be the time to report that he is suspected of a crime, and not until. General Ization ^Talk 02:09, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

User:General Ization, thank you--I appreciate that. Drmies (talk) 02:11, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hey--well, "allegations" are a dime a dozen, and we would need to see some strong sourcing for that to be acceptable--multiple sources, national newspapers, that sort of thing. If I remember correctly you were citing a news item from XXL, but that's not a lot and you know they publish on every fart that someone overheard. An allegation--well, if there's a court case, and a conclusion to it, that's encyclopedic stuff, but an allegation just isn't much. In fact I just removed some stuff from Ski Mask the Slump God, where there was an allegation or whatever, and bail, and then nothing--and that was years ago. Does that make sense? Drmies (talk) 02:11, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

That's fine, but I think that's inherently flawed.

Anyway, I appreciate your response. Wikipedious1 (talk) 02:17, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

It's in line with the spirit of the BLP--an allegation just being an allegation--and another one, WP:NOTNEWS. Take care, Drmies (talk) 02:18, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

User:Zandor75... I hope you're thinking in your mind "Of course you realize this means war." when we have to deal with so many vandals and attackers. God. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 03:16, 1 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

• Ha, no, I'm not ever thinking war. Apparently that's a grown-ass man. The internet brings out the best in people. Drmies, God Damned Fucking Liberal (talk) 14:55, 1 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

  I mean, it's just a quote. Not really wanting to make you think of war. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 15:47, 1 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi Drmies, could you take a look at this? The account's POV has been reverted a number of times, but still insists. Thanks. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 05:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

• Yeah, thanks. I did something--I posted on MILHIST. Drmies (talk) 14:56, 1 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi there Drmies, apologies if I'm bothering. On 14 July, I reverted an addition by Typical Albanian (talk · contribs). They then reverted me. I proceeded to open a talk page section regarding the issue where I pinged them and explained my reasoning. They however have refused to engage or respond on the talk page.

Instead, they've slow edit-warred and yesterday removed content without using any edit summary which I then reverted. Today, they reverted again while making accusations.

They reverted again, making personal attacks. The page has a 1RR for over 24 hours which they've also broken. --Griboski (talk) 18:51, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

You very well mentioned that you are the one that started this whole thing. You removed referenced by a credible source content with a joke description. Who gives you the right to classify what is correct and what not? Who also gives you the right to leave on the article what only you write and delete all others that do not fit your agenda? You've turned this simple true addition into a personal "fight" with me. You are aggressively insisting into making the article as you wish, provoking edit-wars. I do not know why this particular addition to the article, this operation, has such a great importance to you!?

You are on the wrong here! Complain as much as you want to whoever you want but I think you just need to chill down and quit Wikipedia for a few days until you calm down. Typical Albanian (talk) 19:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Good projection. Just like in your edit summaries. --Griboski (talk) 19:59, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Typical Albanian, I don't think we've met. I don't think I've met Griboski. I'm not Albanian, I'm not anti-Albanian or for or against Kosovo, I'm not in any way involved in the Balkan (except for that I'd love to go there), and I have no stake in the article. In other words, I am completely uninvolved--please see WP:INVOLVED. I am looking at your edits, and particularly those edit summaries, and believe me when I say that I will not hesitate to block you if you continue in this way. Your edit summaries are way too personal, they turn the history into a battleground, they are not collegial, they violate WP:AGF, and I could go on. My colleague El_C notified you a year ago of the sanctions that can be imposed by uninvolved administrator on editors who are troublesome in troublesome editors--but even WP:BATTLEGROUND already offers a way to a block. Let's not go down that road any further. Stop making things personal. Discuss editorial content. Let cooler heads prevail. Drmies (talk) 00:23, 3 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I think you are focusing too much on my edit summaries instead of focusing in the edit and what is happening on its own. When Griboski starts removing my added referenced content here, that doesn't tell ring any bell to you? And you're here mentioning being collegial to me. And I am making things personal? You might be able to block me or do whatever you want, but that won't make you or Griboski right.

Anyhow, I will not reply here anymore! Have a nice day! Typical Albanian (talk) 11:45, 3 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I'm an administrator: I'm not here to adjudicate content. If you get blocked, you will get blocked for behavior, most likely--the quality of the edits will likely have little to do with anything. Drmies (talk) 16:55, 3 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

An IP user (geolocates to Thailand) spent 4 August creating a double handful of Talk pages on image files all of which are tagged for deletion after 5 August for copyright issues. Maybe it's a soon-to-be moot question, but what the heck? Geoff | ^{Who, me?} 12:31, 5 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

• Good question. It might well be a gimmick to get autoconfirmed--look at a category with files up for deletion and add WikiProjects to the talk page? I suppose it's less visible than making lousy copy edits in main space. Let's see what happens. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 15:40, 5 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Previously I acted as some sort of clerk and transpose the initial two proposals. Now I have been considering the possible eventual successful appeal of a putative site block, proposing stringent conditions. Obviously I am not an admin. I may be outside any supposed privileges to make such a proposal. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:16, 5 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

• Maybe you should be an admin? You really don't need any advanced privileges to propose anything, so don't worry--and I appreciate your involvement. Drmies (talk) 21:18, 5 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • I appreciate the sentiment. However I have tendency to become obsessed with minutiae, which would be a net negative as an admin. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 21:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
    • It would make you a great ArbCom candidate! [1] Drmies (talk) 00:22, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

      I stood, once, but personal circumstances meant I had to withdraw early in the election. I see non admins would make good arbs 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 09:13, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

      I must just go and find some snails and salt 👀 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 10:26, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Timtrent, I just want to jump in here as a talk page watcher to say I have long thought you would be a great admin. You are thoughtful, eloquent, patient, cool-headed, and know policy/guidelines like the back of your hand. Just sayin..... Netherzone (talk) 01:55, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Netherzone Thank you, too, for the sentiment I simply feel unsuited to the role. Oddly, I think I can do more without the janitorial supplies than with them 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 09:15, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

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@Drmies: I appreciate your contributions to a draft I've been working on here. This has been a work-in-progress and was a bit surprised that you rushed to insert that maintenance tag while it is still in the draftspace. Thank you and happy editing! Reykcultura7193 (talk) 17:05, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi Drmies, Hope you're doing well. Could you please block Melûmat Rozdar? In their second edit, this account recreated a G5ed article initially created by one of the socks of the LTA WP:HEVAL. Thank you, Aintabli (talk) 21:47, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Nevermind. I reported them on meta-wiki, and that account has now been globally locked. Though, they might need to be tagged as an obvious sock here before the article they created is G5ed. Aintabli (talk) 22:04, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sorry for leaving a third message on your talk page. I have tagged the account as a suspected sock as the account got locked after my report on Meta. Feel free to let me know if I shouldn't do the tagging myself as I am not an admin. Thank you in any case. Aintabli (talk) 22:09, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello Drmies, I am writing this just to express my apologies regarding the events that happened in May 2021. Back then, I was horrible at English, used Google Translate for most messages, did not quite understand how IP blocking worked, and of course, I was immature. Recently, I decided to log onto Wikipedia and while I was viewing things I did in the past, I can't help but notice this argument that happened such a long time ago, thus I wanted to apologize about my past behaviors. The IP block does not matter to me anymore, since I have moved to a new place, and the IP block should be over now.

P.S. I said that I will never give up in a reply, I did not want to give up, but I was threatened by an admin that I will be banned from editing if I did not stop filing appeals :/

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Qiu Warren (talk • contribs) 01:30, 7 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Today I have two "musicians" on the Main page, one is also the topic of my story, watch and listen, - I like today's especially because you see him at work, hear him talk about his work and the result of his work - rare! - There are several work places in the Netherlands, - could you perhaps check if there are more links to them? I did it for German (the list was there before I looked), but was tired enough afterwards to not try in a language I don't speak. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:06, 7 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

... and a third, like 22 July but with interview and the music to be played today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:22, 8 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

On 13 August, Bach's cantata was 300 years old, and the image one. The cantata is an extraordinary piece, using the chorale's text and famous melody more than others in the cycle. It's nice to have not only a recent death, but also this "birthday" on the Main page. And a rainbow in my places. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:27, 13 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello! I wanted to ask if you'd be willing to keep half-an-eye on the Black people in Japan page as an admin that did admin things in the Yasuke fiasco. I'm worried it's getting a little close to edit-warring but I don't know enough about edit-warring to know if I should file a report at WP:ANEW or not. I'm more worried about potential BLP violations on the talk, but again, not my area of expertise. My main issue is that I just don't have time to read through all the policy to follow up on those concerns right now. Since I'm not confident enough that policy-vios are happening to bring it to a noticeboard, would you mind checking it out and maybe even adding to your watchlist? CambrianCrab (talk) 17:18, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Regarding your interactions at User talk:61.68.141.56#August 2024, you may want to look at the current listing at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Vpha (which had other IPs you’ve previously blocked). — MarkH₂₁^talk 15:12, 10 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

The ban-evading IP has continued editing and reverting the same articles straight after the 31-hour block expired, FYI. — MarkH₂₁^talk 13:58, 13 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Please note 77.237.190.180 has circumvented their block and is continuing their personal attacks, threats towards me, and disruptive editing in Romanized Persian as 77.237.191.125. Ronnnaldo7 (talk) 18:50, 10 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Evading IP is continuing their personal attacks & threats in Romanized Persian, similar to before, and a continuation of the blocked IP's attacks & threats.--Ronnnaldo7 (talk) 19:26, 10 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I've opened a sockpuppet investigation on the IP.--Ronnnaldo7 (talk) 19:32, 10 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Don't do that, don't open SPIs on IPs. There's no point to it. Drmies (talk) 20:06, 10 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Okay, thanks for letting me know. Should I un-open the SPI? If so, how do I do that? Thanks. Ronnnaldo7 (talk) 20:09, 10 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I've taken care of it--no worries. Drmies (talk) 20:11, 10 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Appreciate it, thank you! Ronnnaldo7 (talk) 20:13, 10 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Can you run a check on this case? This is for the sockfarm that was targeting the Sonya Massey page. Thanks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/ExistentialBliss Jdcomix (talk) 20:30, 10 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

• Yeah, no, there's just a lot of people in the world who do this kind of stuff. Drmies (talk) 00:55, 11 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

You have twice removed well sourced and telling information about American politician Mitt Romney. The information includes a well sourced guide to the history of his relationship with Donald Trump and some of his policy positions plus how he has lost the support of many Republicans calling him a Republican in name only. Maurnxiao (talk) 16:11, 11 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

• Yes I have, and you have posted on my talk page, instead of on the article talk page. BTW the RINO claim is already in there. Drmies (talk) 16:13, 11 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • Because those edits I made stood for close to a day before you removed them uniltarrally. So I asked you. And I added the RINO to the lead section. Maurnxiao (talk) 16:15, 11 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
    • Okay. Talk page please. Drmies (talk) 16:18, 11 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi Drmies, I have come across an account I suspect is WP:LOUTSOCKing which I first noticed at Draft:Cepia LLC (account created the draft and a couple minutes later the IP submitted it) so I left the account a warning few days ago but noticed they are continuing so ran an EIA (which oddly does not include the referenced draft?). The IP's history goes back some time and they have been blocked, last time back in January but the account was not created until July. SPI is so backlogged I hate to file one and I am not sure if LOUT is appropriate for SPI anyway given CUs can't comment on IPs but should I file one? S0091 (talk) 17:59, 11 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I've blocked the named user for socking and the IP for one year.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:49, 11 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks @Bbb23. I will bug you next time. :) S0091 (talk) 18:53, 11 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

This article that you proded was deleted at AFD in 2010 and re created shortly after so may qualify for G4. However the AFD was a long time ago. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:46, 11 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I guess i am doing something wrong in User:The Banner/Workpage6. Is my use of "anchor" for the sources in correct? If so, what is the correct way to do it? The Banner talk 11:28, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

• Oh, you'd have to ask some of the smart people--maybe one of the regular visitors can help you out? Drmies (talk) 13:28, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • LOL, five Nobelprizes, three Turing Awards and an Olympic medal in javelin throwing later and you still think you are not smart?   The Banner talk 09:01, 13 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
    • No seriously, I don't know a thing about anchors. Bbb23, do you? Drmies (talk) 12:23, 13 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
      • Of all your page watchers, I'm the best you can come up with? Anchor is a template; what's that?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:45, 13 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
        • @The Banner: I think {{Harvard citation}} is a better way to accomplish your goal. The refs should highlight the desired source when clicked. Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 13:55, 13 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
          • Bbb23, I had just woken up and hadn't had coffee yet, OK? Plus, yeah! you know shit! Thanks Ed! Drmies (talk) 15:05, 13 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
          • I am unfamiliar with the Harvard-style but I will study it. The Banner talk 17:44, 13 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
            • @The Banner: The similar {{sfn}} is also an option! Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 18:07, 13 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
              • Looks like Harvard is working the way I like. Another bit learned.   The Banner talk 18:17, 13 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

The article is definitely better now but still, by scattering what I wrote about his relationship with Trump throughout the article, you defeat the purpose, which was to show the inconsistency of that relationship. Maurnxiao (talk) 13:43, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

• Thanks, but precisely that purpose was the problem. Highlighting their relationship in that way, in a separate section called "Criticism", is NPOV--particularly since there really wasn't much criticism: you reported some facts, and "criticism" ("inconsistency") was your conclusion. I'm no fan of Romney, and I'm no fan of Trump, but when I'm on Wikipedia I'm a fan of the BLP first. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 15:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Maybe we could keep the section but change the name. Original it was Possible hypocrisy but that does not seem neutral. Maurnxiao (talk) 20:34, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

• One more thing: I also believe in FA. This is not a huge thing, but please hear me out. I thought I saw a numerical date in one of your references earlier, and the article uses the "August 10, 2024" format. I went through the article: there are 277 "accessdates", and four of them were numerical; two of those were yours. When you edit any article, but especially an FA, please keep the formatting consistent--it's one of the factors in FA review. So just check very quickly and adjust your citation (which I think was probably done in an automated fashion) accordingly--thanks. Drmies (talk) 15:20, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

So I encounter you once again on a random "jesus christ, who wrote all this" situation for a TV show from many years ago (MI High was the last one IIRC).

I think the article should still be redirected. I understand the actress won awards for the performance but I believe that would make her notable rather than the character, though willing to hear your thoughts. Rambling Rambler (talk) 20:51, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

• Yeah--who wrote all that? I tried to look for the villain award, but someone just stuck that shit in without verification, and the link for the other thing is that. Sorry, my revert was a bit reflexive and based on the lead--afterward, as you can see in my summaries, I started agreeing with you more and more. Go with the redirect, if that's what your heart tells you. Me, I'm wondering if I should buy a book on knitting with dog hair, which is probably more useful than trying to improve that article. Drmies (talk) 21:53, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • @Drmies I think a better use of your time would be writing a book of various idioms you've used while smashing your face into the wall that is utter dogshit Wikipedia articles.
  • I swear, there should be a guild for what I call "cutters" on this site, because boy do we need more of them given how much "fandom" crap that seems to be every briefly popular but now dead TV show on this site. Rambling Rambler (talk) 22:02, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
    • Years ago I was at a Wikipedia Education thing in Boston. Cullen328 was there. (Right Jim? You remember this?) At some point there was a ceremony of sorts, where they rode a dolly full of boxes of copy paper onto the stage, and said that some project of theirs that they ran in India had produced THAT many additional content for Wikipedia. I looked at that and thought, well, I probably deleted that much cruft from Wikipedia. I don't think I announced that to anyone; I'm not necessarily proud of it. Anyway, couple months (?) later the shit hit the fan, and I wish I could remember where and how I heard this--an overwhelming amount of that material was plagiarized and had to be removed. ;) Drmies (talk) 22:14, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

      That sounds about right for what I've seen on Wikipedia. It's quite funny because I've just done a quick run and gun on the Ugly Betty main article and it's ridiculous how it hit its max size in 2010 and then has basically been largely untouched since, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's a pattern where shows that had their popularity before the popularisation of wikia are likely to have far more fan shite on them than those post-wikia given there's now a nice creche for all the fans to go and have their hyper-specific needs met in. Rambling Rambler (talk) 22:26, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

      Yes, I remember that Boston conference back when we were young and everybody thought that Jimbo had all the answers and that professors could assign students to write Wikipedia articles and since students want A grades, the articles would all be great and the students would love editing Wikipedia so much that they would keep editing on their own initiative. The education in India initiative was a fiasco and most of the content that wasn't plagiarized was very poor for a variety of other reasons. So it goes. Cullen328 (talk) 22:39, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply