Talk:Castration anxiety

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Castration anxiety can also refer to fear of symbolic castration. For example degradation and humiliation and loss of confidence is refered to as symbolic castration. I think this should be included in the article and will make a start, please expand on it though, I havn't got all afternoon to write it in detail. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.144.105 (talk) 15:02, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Most of this article is nonsense, so someone should probably fix it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.210.50.30 (talk) 07:56, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'll second the above: this article is a mess. In particular the stuff on "symbolic castration" is 100% wrong, through omission of Lacan. "Symbolic" ≠ pertaining to metaphors, people. Nvalvo (talk) 05:12, 13 March 2013 (UTC)nvalvo[reply]

This article has been expanded as part of my class's participation in the APS Wikipedia initiative. Class is History and Systems of Psychology, North Dakota State University, Spring 2013. James Council (talk) 03:13, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This section is very well written, however, there is not a word in it about castration anxiety. That is why I will remove it. I am really sorry - as it is so well written. But this is an article on castration anxiety and not on the origins of psychoanalysis. Please feel free to revert my edit and engage with me in a discussion here! Lova Falk talk 19:21, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Freud rejected the idea of the Electra complex and was even monotonously vague about how the phallic stage of psychosexual development is resolved for girls." What does this mean? Was he tediously boring about it? Equinox (talk) 18:49, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The last paragraph contradicts itself. Adlihtam (talk) 15:29, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently this article (section Literal, last sentence) says John Harvey Kellogg was pro-circumcision, but his Wikipedia article says otherwise (section Misconceptions). Winston (talk) 06:47, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is a thorny one! This page has:

In the same period, entrepreneurs like Kellogg offered parents services such as circumcision and castration as a cure and punishment for a wide variety of perceived misbehaviours (such as masturbation) (Laderman & León, 2104:772).

But Laderman & Leon cite Gollaher (2000) who provides some poorly referenced but genuine primary sourced material saying, inter alia, "A remedy which is almost always successful in small boys is circumcision, especially when there is any degree of phimosis" (Kellogg, 1884:114). So Kellogg did advocate circumcision, despite the quote found on our Kellogg page. But the Kellogg page adds a caveat from Kellogg. This caveat is in the 1888 edition but not in the 1879, 1881 or 1884 editions. In that later edition he says

It is doubtful, however, whether as much harm as good does not result from circumcision, since it has been shown by extensive observation among the Jews that very great contraction of the meatus, or external orifice of the urethra, is exceedingly common among them, being undoubtedly the result of the prolonged irritation and subsequent cicatricial contraction resulting from circumcision in infancy.

(Kellogg, 1888:107). I have just added a verification failed to the Kellogg page which links to, and cites the 1881 edition but quotes the 1888 edition.

So Kellogg certainly appeared to be pro circumcision as a masturbation cure, but later came to oppose the general circumcision of the whole population. He mentions castration, but never advocates it. He describes one man castrating his son to cure him of his self abuse, but says, with some irony, it was "scarcely justified" (Kellogg, 1888:363). So I don't really know whether this is due here. Kellogg advocated circumcision in at least some circumstances, but he did not advocate castration, and the page subject is not about circumcisions. But the Kellogg page is somewhat whitewashing Kellogg's views (at least, his earlier views).

• Gollaher, David L. (2000). Circumcision: A History of the World’s Most Controversial Surgery. New York: Basic Books
• Kellogg, John Harvey (1884) Plain Facts for Old and Young Burlington, Iowa: Segner & Condit. Available [1] Accessed 12 July 2024
• Kellogg, John Harvey (1888) Plain Facts for Old and Young Burlington, Iowa: Segner & Condit. Available [2] Accessed 12 July 2024
• Laderman, Gary; León, Luis (2014). Religion and American Cultures: Tradition, Diversity, and Popular Expression, 2nd Edition. ABC-CLIO.

Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:29, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]