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Pseudo-Slavic "Schwaixtix" = Lithuanian "Žvaigždikis" and Prussian "Suaixtix/Swayxtix"?

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At first glance only, pseudo-deity "Schwaixtix" appears to be related to Prussian Prussian/Sudovian "Suaixtix/Swayxtix", taken to be a deity of light. Scholar also propose that the Prussian deity is related to Lithuanian "Žvaigždikis" (also known as "Suaxtix, Swayxtix, Schwayxtix, Schwaytestix" by the Yotvingians). Is it possible that the name isn't Slavic at all, but refers to the Baltic deity?189.122.57.144 (talk) 14:25, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think you should read Schwaixtix as Shvaixtix which is similar to Svarožic, because authors of that forgery were German-speaking. You can see that they borrowed names from other mythologies: Wodan = Odin, Balduri = Baldur, Nemisa = Nemesis?, Percunust = Perkun, so borrowing from Prussian Swyaxtix is possible. Lithuanian Žvaigždikis (god of stars) is cognate to Slavic word gvězda "star" and Zvezda as personification of Morning Star (see List of Slavic deities. I don't know about Suaixtix/Swayxtix, possibly related to Slavic světъ "light"? You should remember that List of Lithuanian gods and mythological figures is also full of false informations and should be rewritten. Sławobóg (talk) 15:06, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Pseudo"?

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I think the terminology is totally not right. The fact that no written sources exist (whether tradition was mostly spoken or they where burned through christianisation era or both) does not mean those deities did not exist. They existed in old folk songs (actually spoken way to preserve knowledge and history in many cultures!) - that means they where deities as real as all other ones. The fact that they were mentioned in some written fakes does not make them "pseudo". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.205.184 (talk) 20:14, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think the terminology is totally not right. This terminology is used in scientific publications, example of use of such terminology in Egnlish language in context of Slavic mythology: [1].
The fact that no written sources exist does not mean those deities did not exist. This is not the way science/scholarship works.
They existed in old folk songs - that means they where deities as real as all other ones. Random words in songs ≠ theonyms. Lada or Dzidzilela have it explained.
The fact that they were mentioned in some written fakes does not make them "pseudo". Do you understand what you just said? Sławobóg (talk) 21:19, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

People could have known about these Gods before the 19th century.

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The so-called scientific sources are written by people, and people tend to make mistakes. Maybe it is beneficial for these scientists to deny Slavic culture? Scientists can also falsify history, this is a fact and a confirmed fact, there are already many videos around the world that these scientists falsify history. These Gods are not pseudo-gods of the Slavs, they are actually Gods of the Slavs.

2A00:1370:81B0:111A:4DA6:EE5:4512:B337 (talk) 11:22, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]