Talk:North Florida Christian School
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Service Academy Appointments
[edit]While having been appointed to a service academy is certainly an honor, it, in itself, is not sufficient to show notability, and I have deleted this section. If any of these alumni meet the Wikipedia notability standards, they can be added to the school's notable graduates section. Tim Ross (talk) 11:11, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
I see that user 75.201.87.17 has replaced the list of service academy appointments that I deleted earlier. If there is interest in listing North Florida Christian High School alumni in the article, they need to be notable alumni in the Wikipedia sense. That sort of listing already exists in the article ("Notable NFC Graduates"), and if any of the service academy appointees qualify as notable, they should be added there. Please do not replace the service academy listing again. Tim Ross (talk) 20:42, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
- The purpose of this section was not to highlight the graduates themselves, but to show the high level of academic achievement the school produces. Being that an appointment to a service academy is the toughest scholarship to obtain. Under this premise could the section be replaced or be placed minus the full names of the individuals?
I don't believe that there would be a problem with including, somewhere in the article, a statement indicating how many service academy appointees have come from the school, although there should be some sort of reference for that information. Tim Ross (talk) 13:08, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Copyright Violations and Other Problems
[edit]Paragraphs three, four, and five of the current article seem to be copyright violations of material in the school's website <www.nflschoolonline.com/about.html>. I have deleted these (but replaced the information regarding accreditation). I have also deleted the subjective, non-encyclopedic last sentence of paragraph six. Please do not replace copyright language. Tim Ross (talk) 15:05, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Vandalism by user 50.248.124.201
[edit]This page has been subjected to repeated vandalism by user 50.248.124.201, possibly as far back as 2017. Any suggestions? Wyatt Tyrone Smith (talk) 19:01, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- I requested page protection, fwiw.Jacona (talk) 19:54, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Updated
[edit]The segregation comment in the first sentence is irrelevant to the introduction of the school. That information is further down in the history. Also, that was when the school started out as a different name and was over 50 years ago. We are not trying to delete it but rather open the paragraph with up to date information as it was for 11 years from 2007-2018 before it was changed. It is important to list our accreditation and other important details in the first paragraph and most other schools have done. 2601:4C1:8203:9340:805F:D982:1054:16AC (talk) 12:55, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- The purpose the school was founded is relevant to the article lede. While you say "We are not trying to delete it", it has been deleted by anonymous users 3 times today alone. History is not re-written because someone doesn't like it, and Wikipedia is not censored.Jacona (talk) 16:30, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- While it is not required, I would strongly encourage you to create an account, as there is much helpful information that could be passed on that would enable you to improve the encyclopedia. There is little point in passing it on to an ip editor, and it is difficult to have a discussion of any kind when you don't know if multiple editors are in fact the same editor, or if one IP editor is more than one editor.Jacona (talk) 16:35, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
Our school is no longer segregated so why does that need to be the first line and again in the history section. Please let me know how we can come to an agreement that it does not need to be the first sentence. Our school is open to all races so when someone looks at this that does not need to be the first sentence.While we cannot erase history, the past should not define our present or future. Kah09h (talk) 22:07, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
You wouldn’t something in your past to be the first line on your resume. Let’s come to an agreed compromise please. Kah09h (talk) 22:16, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
You keep editing and citing its other places yet your info is already in the history section. Kah09h (talk) 13:40, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
I have repeatedly asked to come to an agreement and you won’t. Seems you enjoy ruining it. Kah09h (talk) 13:45, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Coming to an agreement (WP:CONSENSUS]] is exactly what needs to be done. Unilaterally changing information that has been here for quite a while because you don't like it is not consensus. Wikipedia is not censored, and the purpose for which the school was founded is a defining characteristic and so should be mentioned in the lede. Please feel free to share why you think removing it is appropriate as per Wikipedia policy.
There are many other schools that started out as segregation academies and don’t have it listed in their lede. It is misleading to who we are today. The purpose and mission of our school is “to prepare the leaders of tomorrow by providing a program of academic excellence through Christian education thereby equipping them to glorify God. If the information is going to remain in the article, what gives you authority to where it should be versus me. Other schools do not have it in their first sentence so seems you are targeting us. USA Today didn’t find it necessary to put in their lede. Kah09h (talk) 14:58, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- There may be some schools that started out as segregation academies and don't have it in their lede: they should, please update them. I think most do. Remember, this is not a current news article; it is an encyclopedia. It's not just about "who we are today", but also it's about history, the totality of the article's subject. It is not a school website; the school "mission" is considered promotional. It's not an advertisement. No one is targeting anyone, just attempting to discuss the subject of the article encyclopedically. Thanks. Jacona (talk) 15:13, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- A quick review of seg academies in Florida, having seg academy in the lede Bayshore Christian School,Dade Christian School,Glades Day School,Lake Highland Preparatory School,Maclay School,University Christian School.Jacona (talk) 15:21, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Unfortunately google uses this as our description with every school so this “encyclopedia” offers a false “description” of who we are today. None of the schools you listed have it as their first sentence and that’s all I am trying to change so you proved my point in you won’t allow it be moved down the lede. Please explain why you have authority to say why it should be the first sentence of the lede. You mentioned earlier it has been their a while. We had it without for 11 years and you or someone else changed it in 2018 and we have been working behind the scenes the past 3 years with google and here to change the layout. Kah09h (talk) 15:34, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- I have to ask, since you keep using "we" and "our", do you represent the school? Do you have special inside knowledge you'd like to share? Jacona (talk) 15:40, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
I went their for 14 years, taught there for 2 years and my son will be attending there next year. I kept it in the lede, so hopefully that can be our agreement moving forward. I have more information regarding specifics of campus and student life I would love to add. Kah09h (talk) 15:45, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- there my phone keeps auto correcting it Kah09h (talk) 15:45, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
You are citing the edit was advertising when it is FACTS, that claim is absolutely FALSE. Go look at Maclay School, our format was the exact SAME. I will continue to edit and work to make sure we are not harassed by incorrect edits that are not fair across the board. Kah09h (talk) 16:54, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- We do not care a fig how the school wants to be perceived, or how eager you are to conceal your past. If you continue to make edits which are promotional in nature and do not show a neutral point of view, you could end being blocked from editing this article altogether, due to your obvious conflict of interest. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:29, 9 February 2022 (UTC)