Talk:Trophy truck
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Steel tubing
[edit]The article states that the roll cage is made of mild steel and DOM. DOM is a process rather than a material - it's an abbreviation for Drawn Over Mandrel. Steel tube is typically made from a sheet that's bent and welded up. Electric Resistance Welded tubing is left with a seam (on the inside), DOM tubing is drawn over a mandrel that removes the seam, as well as work hardening the steel. This adds to the cost, but also increases the strength. Most ERW and DOM tubing is made of 1020 or 1026 steel, types of mild steel. I believe most trophy trucks use chromoly steels throughout, typically 4130, as it's stronger for a given weight. It is typically DOM, but usually referred to as chromoly or 4130 with no mention of it being DOM, as essentially all chromoly tubes are DOM.
I'm not confident enough to edit the article in this case, but would be very surprised if these trucks have any mild steel. I believe the cage is all chromoly with no mild steel.Totensiebush (talk) 22:29, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- I found the URL of the Truck Trend article cited by the adding contributor and added it the article. I then reviewed the Truck Trend magazine article and it was about a 2004 Dodge Ram 3500 daily driver truck that won a trophy at a show. It wasn't a race vehicle like this article is about, so I removed the Truck Trend source along with the content. Royalbroil 03:59, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Naturally aspirated
[edit]The article says engines are required to be naturally aspirated, then goes on to say that turbo diesels are now being used. A turbo charged engine is not naturally aspirated, right? Alumarine (talk) 16:25, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
- The turbo diesel "fact" was not sourced by a reliable source and it read like original research, so I have removed it. You're right about turbos. They are forced air induction, not naturally aspirated. Now we need to find a source that says they're naturally aspirated. Royalbroil 12:51, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
Merger with SCORE Trophy Truck article
[edit]I believe the SCORE trucks should be a sub-section of this article given the high degree of overlap. The "Vehicle Description" sections for example are almost indistinguishable (if not identical). - Oosh (talk) 00:27, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- Support I see no reason to have separate articles. Please contact User:Lphillippi to see why that article was created. I support articles for other off-road racing classes like Class 8 or whatever, but not this one. Royalbroil 03:19, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- Support I also see no reason of having separate articles. Trophy Trucks is a class that only exists as such in SCORE International Erikpn (talk) 04:37, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- It has been used all long in short course racing in the various West Coast as well as Midwest/Wisconsin series. I saw trophy trucks racing at Crandon last year. All the time from SODA (series) to Traxxas TORC Series / LOORRS. Royalbroil 14:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- I have seen those races before, I believe that's a cheaper version of the trophy truck that's been used there, I could be wrong. Maybe you've seen actual trophy truck race there as it happens in the local races here in Mexicali with CODE Off-Road, but the class is not called SCORE Trophy Truck but Class 1 or other name. Erikpn (talk) 09:43, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
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A heap of misinformation.
[edit]I'm going to go through a gruelling cleansing of all the nonsense on this page tomorrow. It's more than a decade old and still has tons of blatant lies. This article immediately assumes with it's title that all these vehicles are classed as "Trophy Trucks", when in reality, only SCORE calls them that because they literally own the copyright. Trick Truck is a non-copyright, more inclusive term that makes more sense. I can not tell if I am happy, because they pointed out that difference, or angry, because they went on to ignore it.
I'll admit, this article is named "Trophy Truck", but it doesn't really make it a point to ensure that readers know that there is a big difference. I'm sure most readers just assume that Tropht Trucks and Trick Trucks are the exact same thing, can't figure out the regulations, and are indefinitely confused. I could really care less if they're similar; I'll always cherish accuracy.
It may add some more beef to the article, but this article may need to be split up, anyway. It could be shortened to a quick description of what Trophy Trucks and Trick Trucks are, while also linking a ton of other more specific articles. The media around motorsports is already a disgusting pool of misinformation, and Wikipedia should value accuracy over readability. I don't think this place was designed to catch your attention like buzzfeed; it was designed to give accurate information in an organized fashion with sources to back it.
Also, it claims that forced induction is allowed, and that engines produce an excess of 1000 horsepower? Not all SCORE unlimited class trucks even reach that, and SCORE unlimited class trucks aren't allowed to have forced induction. Only the lower classes can have forced induction, and thats because they have tiny blocks that produce substantially LESS horsepower, and those are just the glaring mistakes that I found.
This entire page is a gold-mine of mistakes that need to be fixed.
+ Sorry for the rant, I'm incredibly tired as it is 3 AM in my timzone, and the exhaustion is getting to me. I shall hopefully wake up feeling productive enough to rectify the many issues that I have noticed. Oh, and I almost forgot to mention the suspension thing. A big part of why Trick Trucks and Trophy Trucks are even romately capable of what they are, is because of Bypass Shocks, and those are not mentjoned anywhere here OR on the main-article for "car suspension". (Such an.. unrefined name. I would personally suggest "Auto Suspension"... ☹️) LBAX118 (talk) 08:16, 27 November 2023 (UTC)