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What is the belly?
[edit]What creates these animals? Does it have abnormal digestive organs, or is it the result of spinal curvature? -Rolypolyman 23:22, 28 June 2007 (UTC)pot-bellied pigs are extereamly FAT and abnormally loud
Why not rename the article Vietnamese Pot-bellied pig, as it doesn't mention the Chinese Pot-bellied pig anyway. However, there are two types. --83.108.104.71 07:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Pigs as Pets
[edit]The Dutch wiki page for this topic contains more info on the pet pig industry, which might be considered for adding to this section. Apparently it's only really popular in the states (though I assume also southeast asia?), and some breeders are actually trying to make them smaller by not giving them enough food, creating pot-bellied pigs that weigh in the range of 12 to 25 kilos (normally they weight around 65). This underfeeding is very very bad for the pigs' health and the practice is not included in the code of conduct developed by the North American Potbellied Pig Association (http://www.petpigs.com/nabredco.htm). --(71.191.72.148 (talk) 19:39, 23 February 2009 (UTC))
Another picture needed?
[edit]I have a pretty good picture of a Vietnamese pot-bellied big, with the belly rather prominent, that I took on a trip a while ago. Do you think this article could use one of those? I'd gladly put it up for it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LisardggY (talk • contribs) 08:31, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Pictures
[edit]According to the criteria listed in the article, all of the pigs shown are overweight. I would seem like a good idea to include a picture of a pig that is withing the correct weight range. Tad Lincoln (talk) 23:21, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
I am seconding this as an anonymous, meaningless user of Wikipedia. Aside from the "young" picture, all of these pigs are very overweight. I don't want to cry animal abuse, because a fat pig is always going to be happier than an emaciated ones, but I don't want people to get the wrong idea that potbellies are supposed to be so fat that their facial folds prohibit them from seeing normally. 2602:306:C579:A970:9883:3CBC:AE4F:28C1 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:35, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
Distinction between "Vietnamese Pot-bellied" and "I"
[edit]Dmol has (twice) partially removed the name "I" for this Vietnamese pig breed from the page, the second time apparently because "No I pig article exists". However, this is that article. The Vietnamese pig breed is called "I", in reliable English-language sources such as Mason. The "Vietnamese Pot-bellied Pig" was a short-lived fad in the United States for pigs of this type, but not necessarily of this breed. That exonym does not describe the Vietnamese breed, but American pigs that may (or may not) have derived from it.
What's to be done? Move this to I (pig) and remove any irrelevant content about the pet pig fad? Split the page – into this article and a sub-stub on the "Pot-bellied"? Or leave it be? Any of these is fine with me. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:12, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
- The standard used on Wikipedia is the common name, and as such should remain as "Vietnamese Pot-bellied". --Dmol (talk) 21:47, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
- So what do you want to do? This article is about a Vietnamese pig breed, the Lon I; the "Vietnamese Pot-bellied" is not Vietnamese, and not a breed but a heterogenous type. Move it or split it? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:25, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
- This is the English wikipedia, so we should stick to English expressions. "I" removed in the article. Best Minoo (talk) 17:19, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Information on healthy diet
[edit]Just wanted to flag that the primary picture at the top of this article is of two morbidly obese pot-bellies. Meanwhile there are lots of sources that say that 1) pot-bellied pigs are often kept as pets, 2) that obesity is a common problem for pot-bellied pigs, and 3) obesity has detrimental effects for health of pot-bellied pigs. (I added this preliminarily, and was planning to go grab sources, but someone reverted it immediately. So I am posting about this here to see if anyone had thoughts). Maybe we can add a "Pets" or a "Captivity" section to mention this practice and these issues? Petitapoplexy (talk) 21:19, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- This is what normal, healthy, well-nourished, adult Vietnamese Pot-bellied look like. They are not obese. The two pigs are kept in the Jardim Zoologico de Lisboa and are fed professionally.
- Pigs require 1-2% of their body weight as a daily feed ration. A 50kg pig needs 500g - 1kg of feed per day. In addition, it requires roughage in the form of hay for digestion. See Veterinärmedizinische Universität Wien You may have seen too many advertisements from mini pig sellers claiming that feeding one or two cups of food a day will keep their pigs from starving. If your pig is thinner, please give it a healthy diet. Maybe it will recover and grow to its full size.
- The pet topic is discussed here: Miniature pig. We shouldn't open a pet section for every pig breed encyclopedia article. Minoo (talk) 17:08, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
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