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[edit]Not a legitimate Swedish queen - must be categorized under "Semi-legendary kings of Sweden" or Mythical... SergeWoodzing (talk) 01:09, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- There is no category for Semi -legendary or mycthical queens. Until there is one, she was more "queen" than she was king.--85.226.43.33 (talk) 11:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- Sweden did not exist in the 6th century. Thus there were no Swedish queens. I will make you a category for Legendary queens later today and move those ladies there. Until then, we can't have the very interesting Yrsa as a colleague of Queen Silvia. SergeWoodzing (talk) 12:56, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- Found a much better "People..." category and have made it too a sub to Category:Swedish monarchy and added it to the explanatory intro text at Category:Swedish royalty. Thank you 85.226.43.33 for your input on these important names and all the other remarkably good work you do here. Sincerely, SergeWoodzing (talk) 14:26, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, this is true, but the category say: ”Swedish queens”, not ”Queens of Sweden”, and of course, if she was a queen in one of the Swedish petty kingdoms, she was still a ”Swedish queen”, even if she was not ”Queen of Sweden”. There is a distinction. But I welcome the creation of a new category. I suggest: ”Semi Legendary norse royalty” : this would be very practical, and not limit it to merely queens. Good work! --85.226.43.33 (talk) 18:16, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- The lovely Yrsa has now been sorted in a very appropriate category which would include your suggested ”Semi Legendary norse royalty”. Let's not go on too long about her being a Swedish queen. When Sweden didn't exist, Swedish didn't exist either. Regards, SergeWoodzing (talk) 20:26, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, this is true, but the category say: ”Swedish queens”, not ”Queens of Sweden”, and of course, if she was a queen in one of the Swedish petty kingdoms, she was still a ”Swedish queen”, even if she was not ”Queen of Sweden”. There is a distinction. But I welcome the creation of a new category. I suggest: ”Semi Legendary norse royalty” : this would be very practical, and not limit it to merely queens. Good work! --85.226.43.33 (talk) 18:16, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- Sweden, as all countries, is not merely a nation, and the Swedish language and culture existed further back then the nation. The Swedish petty kingdoms can be described as Swedish in the same fashion as the different ancient states of Greece were all Greek long before united Greece in 1830. But I am quite satisfied with the category. Regards, --85.226.43.33 (talk) 11:45, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
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All of this seems to be frivolous mischief and neeeds to be reverted. Citation requests in texts quoted from specific sources? Come on! --SergeWoodzing (talk) 20:19, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
- It's fine. We often use citation needed tags on articles here. Electriccatfish2 (talk) 20:35, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
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- As if I didn't know that! Did you even look at the link I provided? If you had, perhaps you'd've seen that those tags were added where there obviously already are sufficient source quotes provided. That's why I used the word frivolous and brought this up in the first place. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 23:08, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
- Not frivolous at all, although some of the tags are somewhat randomly placed and it would be better if it just had a {{refimprove}} tag at the top. This is a very poorly sourced article. It's true that the first tag, inside the quote, is something of a non sequitur, it's a quote so we know whose opinion is being expressed. Of course, the quote itself needs to be sourced with an inline citation or removed, per core policy (all quotes MUST be cited using an inline citation; in text attribution is not sufficient). The use of pull quotes for a plain quote is also frowned upon, though not a big deal. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Block quotations.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:52, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
- I've sourced the quotation, made it a blockquote added refimprove and removed the peppered tags.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:24, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you! --SergeWoodzing (talk) 01:30, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
- You're welcome.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:04, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you! --SergeWoodzing (talk) 01:30, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
- I've sourced the quotation, made it a blockquote added refimprove and removed the peppered tags.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:24, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
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Lots of inconsistencies
[edit]I've made a few improvements today, but the article (and many others about characters from these sagas) needs much more work. Very confusing inconsistencies in the names of most of the individuals makes it all very difficult to negotiate. Some people, without any explanation, are referred to by as many as 3 or 4 different spellings. SergeWoodzing (talk) 18:53, 6 June 2023 (UTC)