User talk:Acdixon/Archive Jul-Dec 2013
Kentucky UPDATES
[edit]Hey there! I managed to get an actual Ed Kentucky postmark, yes, the town was named Ed, 2 letters. Which is rather cool. I also have been checking out the NRHP lists for KY counties. Any red linked places, are starting to blue...yaaaayCoal town guy (talk) 03:06, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
- I thought about doing some NHRP places around here, but I just never did it. Let me know when you create ones in and around Muhlenberg County. First, I'll watchlist them, and if I have opportunities, I'll try to get relevant pictures. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 14:57, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
- Good news, is. all town or city locs are blue, bad news, NON of the actual aticles. with the exception of the courthouse have an article. red red red.Coal town guy (talk) 15:25, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
- WOW, thats a change! GOOD news, I was just chatting at the NRHP Talk page last night, for those places that are a Historic district, there are of course multiple buildings, ergo, multiple photos. I have 2 in mind for WV, BUT I just happened to see that Muhlenberg has a district too. Wish I had one of those near me...Envy envyCoal town guy (talk) 15:12, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- There are actually a few, and Greenville has gotten some grants to spruce some of theirs up, especially down Main Street. Unfortunately, one of the contributing buildings in downtown Greenville burned a few years ago, but they are making the vacant lot into something at least aesthetically pleasing. I think I could do a down-the-street shot of that district to capture multiple buildings. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 15:17, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- I was of course joking on the Ctalyst page about seeing the Rice Tabacco factory first, kind of, I bet that a sweet structureCoal town guy (talk) 15:23, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, I missed the fact that you were joking. It's Monday. I knew you had an interest in history, so I thought you might be serious, but now it sounds like you know exactly what you're going to see in that picture (i.e. not much). I've always thought it was kind of a sad building, a relic of glory days past and never returning. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 15:42, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- No worries, its OK to have a bad looking structure, I am one of those who like them. In all of my travels of small coal towns and places, I chose the path of taking pics that try to show what was, AND what is. My alternatives, esspecially in small remote places are rather limited, meaning, I return to a bulldozed piece of earth. So, I try to as the song says, "accentuate the positive"Coal town guy (talk) 12:14, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- Just in case, take a look here Coal town guy (talk) 12:19, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- No worries, its OK to have a bad looking structure, I am one of those who like them. In all of my travels of small coal towns and places, I chose the path of taking pics that try to show what was, AND what is. My alternatives, esspecially in small remote places are rather limited, meaning, I return to a bulldozed piece of earth. So, I try to as the song says, "accentuate the positive"Coal town guy (talk) 12:14, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, I missed the fact that you were joking. It's Monday. I knew you had an interest in history, so I thought you might be serious, but now it sounds like you know exactly what you're going to see in that picture (i.e. not much). I've always thought it was kind of a sad building, a relic of glory days past and never returning. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 15:42, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- I was of course joking on the Ctalyst page about seeing the Rice Tabacco factory first, kind of, I bet that a sweet structureCoal town guy (talk) 15:23, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- There are actually a few, and Greenville has gotten some grants to spruce some of theirs up, especially down Main Street. Unfortunately, one of the contributing buildings in downtown Greenville burned a few years ago, but they are making the vacant lot into something at least aesthetically pleasing. I think I could do a down-the-street shot of that district to capture multiple buildings. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 15:17, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- WOW, thats a change! GOOD news, I was just chatting at the NRHP Talk page last night, for those places that are a Historic district, there are of course multiple buildings, ergo, multiple photos. I have 2 in mind for WV, BUT I just happened to see that Muhlenberg has a district too. Wish I had one of those near me...Envy envyCoal town guy (talk) 15:12, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Good news, is. all town or city locs are blue, bad news, NON of the actual aticles. with the exception of the courthouse have an article. red red red.Coal town guy (talk) 15:25, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, some of those are in pretty bad shape. It's been a while since I took the road that goes by Rice Tobacco Factory, but from my recollection, it's condition is probably comparable to this. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 13:50, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- No problem, Thats Pageton, I hate the pic, but the current building is a brick cube, not much to dress up there, MAYBE a closer shot. I chose to go to Vivian instead and populate a empty pic space versus a better pic.Coal town guy (talk) 14:28, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
Following up on Brown Mackie College
[edit]Hi Acdixon, I've revised my draft and responded to your suggestions at Talk:Brown Mackie College (to which I have copied your message from my userspace). Good feedback, and I'm optimistic that you'll agree with my changes. For convenience, here is my draft again: User:WWB_Too/Brown_Mackie_College. Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 22:18, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- Hello, me again. Not sure if you'd seen, but I replied at Talk:Brown Mackie College late last week to say I thought your changes looked good. Were you planning to move them over soon, or did you still want to wait the full two weeks? Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 19:28, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- Well, I had intended to wait the full two weeks, but given that no one else has commented yet, even to say they were going to read the draft and comment later, maybe I should go ahead go ahead and move it. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 19:31, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- That makes sense. And I just saw that you've updated it. Thanks very much! WWB Too (Talk · COI) 20:30, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- Well, I had intended to wait the full two weeks, but given that no one else has commented yet, even to say they were going to read the draft and comment later, maybe I should go ahead go ahead and move it. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 19:31, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
WikiProject Bluegrass Music
[edit]- Hey, this is Ling.Nut. Just FYI, User talk:Anne Delong is interested in starting a WikiProject for Bluegrass Music. • Serviceable†Villain 04:09, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the note. Bluegrass isn't really my thing, despite being from the Bluegrass State, but I'll try to pass the word along if I find anyone interested. Why the name change? Acdixon (talk · contribs) 13:40, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)Let me know if you can, Love the music......especially, a certain Orville Jenks.....Coal town guy (talk) 14:08, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
- Couldn't quit Wikipedia. I went through Ling.Nut2, Ling.Nut3, and several other user names. Now... well, look at my contribs. I had a burst when I was doing a practice run through Featured List, but now... nope. And I'm not gonna fool with FLIST either. So I'm done. • Serviceable†Villain 12:12, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
- A lot of folks seem to be trying to quit Wikipedia (with varying levels of success) these days. That's disheartening. My reduced contributions have more to do with Civilization V than a lack of interest in the project. The vitriol does seem higher these days, but maybe that's just because I've been following the User:Kumioko drama from afar. Me, I'll just keep plugging along making contributions as I feel like it. Hope you will, too. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 13:26, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) a very wise editor once told me, think of what you contribute as opposed to a certain article, I took that advice, it works. Dont get me wrong, I have walked away from larger editing efforts, try a county list to FL and watch it spark.....Otherwise, it can be greatly disheartening Coal town guy (talk) 14:06, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
- A lot of folks seem to be trying to quit Wikipedia (with varying levels of success) these days. That's disheartening. My reduced contributions have more to do with Civilization V than a lack of interest in the project. The vitriol does seem higher these days, but maybe that's just because I've been following the User:Kumioko drama from afar. Me, I'll just keep plugging along making contributions as I feel like it. Hope you will, too. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 13:26, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
FAC
[edit]Got anything in the pipeline? I've returned to editing and have been disappointed not to get my regular Kentucky history lesson! --Laser brain (talk) 00:46, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- Well, as I mentioned above, an unhealthy amount of Civilization V has cut my editing way back, as have preparations for the arrival of my second little girl in November. I've been drafting the second article in my John C. Breckinridge series on and off, but I'm getting really bogged down in the military tactics and terminology with that one. I've also been working on some expansion of the Creation Museum article. I know that one is going to be full of land mines, and I usually stay clear of such stuff, but I thought my access to local sources like The Kentucky Post and the Lexington Herald-Leader might allow me to bring some needed additional material to the article beyond the evolution vs. creationism WP:COATRACKing that seems to be going on there now. Finally, I told TheCatalyst31 (talk · contribs) that I'd try to reward his diligence in creating articles for all the NRHPs in Muhlenberg County, Kentucky, by getting photos to go with them, since they are all within 10-15 minutes of my house. None of these are related to FAC in the short term, at least, but that's what I've got going on.
- Thanks for the nice note; knowing that my work is being missed could be the jump start I need to get back to more wiki-work. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 13:24, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
- Excellent! I'm also dealing with a Civ 5 addiction, and the release of Brave New World certainly didn't help. --Laser brain (talk) 16:10, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
- I usually stay behind a bit so stuff is cheaper. I picked up Gods and Kings for $10 the week Brave New World came out (also my birthday week!) Wanted to master the religion mechanic before also trying to wrap my head around tourism! Glad to find a kindred spirit who understands. At some point, the novelty will wear off, and I'll be back to wiki. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 16:15, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
- Excellent! I'm also dealing with a Civ 5 addiction, and the release of Brave New World certainly didn't help. --Laser brain (talk) 16:10, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Whoopflarea BABY!!!!!
[edit]Hey there, just a FYI, Whoopflarea, Kentucky now has a postmark and naming origin, NOTABLE, OH YEAH!Coal town guy (talk) 14:11, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
- Seems like I've heard of that place before, although I'm not sure why I would have. That's pretty far from me. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 13:32, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
National Register of Historic Places (NRHP) and Kentucky
[edit]Hey, I just went through all 120 counties in KY and corrected over 20+ links. Turns out the link to NRHP for a county was taking the user to the state list and not the specific county list.....SO, I have corrected WV and KY in totum. Next stop is Texas, EGAD.......Coal town guy (talk) 15:05, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
WP:FOUR RFC
[edit]There are two WP:RFCs at WP:FOUR. The first is to conflate issues so as to keep people from expressing meaningful opinions. The second, by me, is claimed to be less than neutral by proponents of the first. Please look at the second one, which I think is much better.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:08, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Thomas Metcalfe buildings
[edit]Hi, can User:Acdixon/List of buildings constructed by Thomas Metcalfe be moved to mainspace? You and i were discussing this 2 years ago at Talk:Thomas Metcalfe (Kentucky). --doncram 14:58, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
P.S. Kentucky NRHP nomination documents are now almost all available online, which would greatly facilitate developing the linked articles. I would do some of that development, using the articles-for-creation process, but I would prefer to be working from a mainspace list. It's a valid article already. Can you please move it? I can't directly do that, currently; i could put it through the articles-for-creation process, however. --doncram 15:04, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, I would prefer to see this as its own article, especially if you plan to turn some of the red links blue. I moved it to my user space with intentions of beefing it up a little, but I never got around to it. Why don't you put it through the AfC process to make sure some overzealous deletionist doesn't find some reason to whack it on sight, but I think it should survive just fine. If it does, I think we should remove the "Buildings" section of Thomas Metcalfe (Kentucky) and just provide a link to the new list article. BTW, I just added the picture of the Old Governor's Mansion that I took last time I was in Frankfort. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 15:40, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, great. I've moved it into AfC, it's now at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/List of buildings constructed by Thomas Metcalfe, and I developed it a bit. Thanks for the photo! Please do contribute more! :) --doncram 16:11, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- I will. As you can see above, it's my intention to go around and photograph the NRHP buildings in my home county. Shouldn't take more than an hour. It's just finding the time, motivation, and proper weather all at the same time! Acdixon (talk · contribs) 17:02, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, great. I've moved it into AfC, it's now at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/List of buildings constructed by Thomas Metcalfe, and I developed it a bit. Thanks for the photo! Please do contribute more! :) --doncram 16:11, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Precious again
[edit]Kentucky quality
Thank you for quality articles on people and places in Kentucky, such as Simon Bolivar Buckner, - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (12 October 2010)!
A year ago, you were the 229th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:33, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- Always nice to have my work recognized. Thanks, Gerda, both for this and for your diligent work in finding and nominating good TFAs. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 13:38, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reminder. I don't get to articles and not to nominations, arb case, DYK? You could do me a favour and look (without background) at two alternatives for discussion, - link in the picture on top of my user, fresh views welcome, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:07, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- Wow! I've seen, in passing, some verbal sniping over this issue, but I didn't realize it was so long-standing or heated. My personal feeling is that, in cases where there is an appropriate infobox, it's both helpful and attractive, but the gist of this discussion seems to be that composers, operas, and related articles are somehow "special", and due to their nature, an infobox is not helpful or is explicitly harmful. Since I know very little about those subjects, as you probably remember from the time I reviewed one of your DYKs about a conductor who conducted the Ring Cycle, I would be ill-equipped to argue against the purported "specialness" of those topics. More often than not, however, I think that editors who argue that their topic is somehow "special" and should be treated differently from other articles are just trying to camoflage their invokation of WP:OWN, but that's not really an assumption of good faith on my part, I guess. In short, if I thought I could contribute anything to the discussion that might move it forward, I would, but I'm not sure I can, especially given how long it's gone on without a solution. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 15:37, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- Interesting that you call that "longwinding". Project opera archived 17.000 words today. Same project (not "disruptive" editors) offered an infobox opera, which is opposed by those who always had a side navbox in that position (and don't like any infobox). What would you, as the reader of an opera article, prefer? - That is a question YOU could answer in that one special case. We talk too much about the interests of the authors, if you ask me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:11, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- As a reader, I typically prefer an infobox, regardless of the article's topic (i.e. operas wouldn't be an exception, were I to read such an article). I generally find that infoboxes bring the most sought-after information about a subject to a location on the page where it is easy for the reader to find it, rather than forcing them to read potentially paragraphs of information they are not interested in. The "infoboxes are redundant" argument holds no water with me. Lead sections are (or should be) redundant with the body of the article, too, but there are seldom complaints about that. As an author, I'm very sympathetic to the needs of authors (particularly regarding citations and footnoting), but this is one where I fail to see how the needs of the author and the needs of the reader are at odds. An infobox isn't that much more work for the author, and it often – in my experience – helps the reader find what he or she is looking for more quickly. Moreover, there is something to be said for a consistent look-and-feel between articles, regardless of subject. The more the reader uses Wikipedia, the more he or she comes to expect what an article typically looks like. In fact, I have gone through the articles of several Kentucky congressmen that were generated from the Biographical Directory of the United States Congress by User:Polbot for the explicit purpose of adding an infobox to them. I made few, if any, other changes. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 16:35, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- Agree. Of course "redundant" is no argument. Here are a few others in the Evidence. I collected more than twenty others ;) The first table shows articles with a debate (some resolved), - you will find the "arguments" in the TOC, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:51, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- You've really put a lot of work into that. I can't bring myself to say there's never a time when an infobox would be problematic, but I think the vast, overwhelming majority of the time, it is not. I'm sorry you've apparently run into a concentration of editors who feel otherwise in your particular area of interest. It's really too bad that so many of these issues get filibustered and debated to death without making any real progress. I hope the ArbCom case will finally bring some closure. I can't add anything, really, to the arguments you have already apparently made except to say I generally agree with them. I wish I could be more help. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 21:02, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- Agree. Of course "redundant" is no argument. Here are a few others in the Evidence. I collected more than twenty others ;) The first table shows articles with a debate (some resolved), - you will find the "arguments" in the TOC, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:51, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- As a reader, I typically prefer an infobox, regardless of the article's topic (i.e. operas wouldn't be an exception, were I to read such an article). I generally find that infoboxes bring the most sought-after information about a subject to a location on the page where it is easy for the reader to find it, rather than forcing them to read potentially paragraphs of information they are not interested in. The "infoboxes are redundant" argument holds no water with me. Lead sections are (or should be) redundant with the body of the article, too, but there are seldom complaints about that. As an author, I'm very sympathetic to the needs of authors (particularly regarding citations and footnoting), but this is one where I fail to see how the needs of the author and the needs of the reader are at odds. An infobox isn't that much more work for the author, and it often – in my experience – helps the reader find what he or she is looking for more quickly. Moreover, there is something to be said for a consistent look-and-feel between articles, regardless of subject. The more the reader uses Wikipedia, the more he or she comes to expect what an article typically looks like. In fact, I have gone through the articles of several Kentucky congressmen that were generated from the Biographical Directory of the United States Congress by User:Polbot for the explicit purpose of adding an infobox to them. I made few, if any, other changes. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 16:35, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- Interesting that you call that "longwinding". Project opera archived 17.000 words today. Same project (not "disruptive" editors) offered an infobox opera, which is opposed by those who always had a side navbox in that position (and don't like any infobox). What would you, as the reader of an opera article, prefer? - That is a question YOU could answer in that one special case. We talk too much about the interests of the authors, if you ask me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:11, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- Wow! I've seen, in passing, some verbal sniping over this issue, but I didn't realize it was so long-standing or heated. My personal feeling is that, in cases where there is an appropriate infobox, it's both helpful and attractive, but the gist of this discussion seems to be that composers, operas, and related articles are somehow "special", and due to their nature, an infobox is not helpful or is explicitly harmful. Since I know very little about those subjects, as you probably remember from the time I reviewed one of your DYKs about a conductor who conducted the Ring Cycle, I would be ill-equipped to argue against the purported "specialness" of those topics. More often than not, however, I think that editors who argue that their topic is somehow "special" and should be treated differently from other articles are just trying to camoflage their invokation of WP:OWN, but that's not really an assumption of good faith on my part, I guess. In short, if I thought I could contribute anything to the discussion that might move it forward, I would, but I'm not sure I can, especially given how long it's gone on without a solution. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 15:37, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reminder. I don't get to articles and not to nominations, arb case, DYK? You could do me a favour and look (without background) at two alternatives for discussion, - link in the picture on top of my user, fresh views welcome, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:07, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
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- Thank you, friend. I'm glad that my edits haven't set off any land mines yet. I think I've about picked off most of the low-hanging fruit, though. To get this thing where it needs to go now, I think the controversy section needs to be trimmed, and the remaining content from that section needs to be integrated into the other sections of the article. That ought to draw some attention. Not going to try and whitewash the article; that's never been my intention. I generally find, though, that a stand-alone controversies section draws POV pushers, encouraging them to add any kind of tangetial criticism, regardless of its lasting importance. If we can identify the most germane, substantial criticisms – possibly via an RFC, just so everything's on the up-and-up – and place them in context in the article, I think it will help stabilize it and improve its readability.
- Unfortunately, my laptop is on the fritz as of this weekend, and I don't know yet what or how long it will take to repair it, so I'm not sure how soon I can get to the next phase of improvement. Your continued feedback on the article is greatly appreciated. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 13:20, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- Good luck with that laptop! Yes, my experience at other pages has been that it's usually best not to have dedicated criticism sections, and instead integrate the criticism into the rest of the text. That way, we can focus on criticism of the Museum, rather than coatracking the broader debate. Whenever that part of the editing process gets underway, no hurry, I will get more actively involved. --Tryptofish (talk) 16:30, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Kentucky and the NRHP
[edit]GOOD WORK!!Coal town guy (talk) 17:21, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
- My pleasure. Sure wish I had done this before they tore down the Martin House earlier this year, but it was fun to go around and make these pictures nonetheless. Could make a good featured list, except I don't have sources for those demolitions (other than the original research I did by walking to those addresses and not finding anything there!) Acdixon (talk · contribs) 17:24, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
- Its going to be tough. The only way to find a specific demolition date is to have a s ub to a local paper and then PRAY they have a digital archive for internet search. Wyoming County in WV is one such exampleCoal town guy (talk) 17:26, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
- Yep. The Leader News is the paper of record for Greenville, but I think its digital archives only go back a few years (certainly not back to the demolition of the jail, I wouldn't think). Plus, they're behind a paywall. Not sure if the Times Argus, the paper of record in Central City, has a digital archive at all. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 17:31, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
- I have an idea which has helped me in the past....IF you happen to know ANYONE at the county courthouse, it is highly probable, they may have a newspaper clipping in the archives...a thought only.Coal town guy (talk) 16:22, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
- I don't really know anyone there, but I might be able to check when I'm off work for a few days for the birth of my second little girl in November. Good thought. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 16:59, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
- Found this thread by accident; thanks for the upload help. If you're anywhere near Greenville and have photo time, could you try to return to the jail and Martin House sites? We routinely upload photos of sites where destroyed buildings used to be; it helps both by documenting the building's destruction and by documenting the built environment surrounding the former building. You're going to have a substantially harder time if you decide to get the Baker Site; either you'll have to get on a boat on the Green River, or you'll have to get landowner permission, since it's nowhere near the public right-of-way. Nyttend (talk) 04:03, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
- I don't really know anyone there, but I might be able to check when I'm off work for a few days for the birth of my second little girl in November. Good thought. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 16:59, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
- I have an idea which has helped me in the past....IF you happen to know ANYONE at the county courthouse, it is highly probable, they may have a newspaper clipping in the archives...a thought only.Coal town guy (talk) 16:22, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
- Yep. The Leader News is the paper of record for Greenville, but I think its digital archives only go back a few years (certainly not back to the demolition of the jail, I wouldn't think). Plus, they're behind a paywall. Not sure if the Times Argus, the paper of record in Central City, has a digital archive at all. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 17:31, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
- Its going to be tough. The only way to find a specific demolition date is to have a s ub to a local paper and then PRAY they have a digital archive for internet search. Wyoming County in WV is one such exampleCoal town guy (talk) 17:26, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I live quite near Greenville, so I should be able to get pictures of those sites. The Martin House site still has some steps where it was, I think, but the jail was demolished to build a new one. The picture there would be of the new, bigger jail. Do you think that would still be OK, or would it confuse people? As for the Baker Site, I figured that might be the case. It said it was near the Paradise Fossil Plant, and there's a whole lot of nothing out that way. If I still had my ATV and some friends to go with me, I'm sure I could get there, but otherwise, we might have to let that one go. Thanks for your interest. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 12:31, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks! Either a largely-empty lot or a new building photo is appropriate; just put a note in the summary column explaining that this is the new jail, not the original. Since I'm in southern Indiana, I've visited a few of the Green River shell middens (I took all three images that appear on Green River Shell Middens Archeological District), but their isolation is the biggest reason I've not gotten more: I expect I'll be able a few sites if I ever get back to Henderson County, but the Butler County sites and the Baker Site I've always figured I'd have to leave to the locals, since there's no way I'd have time/money for a Green River boat trip. Nyttend (talk) 21:49, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
- OK, I'll get those two photos when I'm able, and we'll just assume the Baker Site is a lost cause unless something changes. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 01:17, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
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0alx0
[edit]hi, i'm a relatively new user (3 months) and i'd like to know how i can become a better wikipedian. This is because i am very confused sometimes. I also need someone to "teach" me certain things.
0alx0 (talk) 01:44, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
- I'd be glad to try and help. It would be helpful to know what you want to do here. What are your areas of interest? What Wikipedia experiences have you had so far that led you to the conclusion that you need to become a better Wikipedian? Acdixon (talk · contribs) 13:15, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
Sorry for not responding quicker, but one experience that i've had is that i tried to give someone a Barnstar and I managed to slap them with a trout. 0alx0 (talk) 02:01, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
- Oh my! I hope you were able to smooth that over! The "WikiLove" tool has made giving barnstars and other nice, shiny things pretty easy. When you go to a user's talk page, you should see a button with a heart on it in the upper right next to the "View History" tab. When you click that, you basically get a "wizard-type" interface that walks you through the process. Also, you can go to Wikipedia:Barnstars to see all the barnstars we currently give. Pick one, and find the text in the "What to type" column. You should just be able to copy that, paste it onto someone's talk page, then replace the word "message" with your message, and save. Let me know if you have difficulty. Anything else I can help with? Acdixon (talk · contribs) 13:20, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Need advice
[edit]Hey, its that time, time to ask you about arcane pic usage.......this article needed a pic, AND it JUST SO HAPPENS, I know a local person. Its a NRHP property s;ated for demolition for a McDonalds to replace it. NO, I am not joking. Via e mail, I received p[ermission to use the pic on Wikipedia. I used the pic. The pic was then tagged for deletion because I did NOT at that time, provide the exact form for permission as the donor is 80+ years old, and NOT interested in filling out a form. I therefore contected the wikimedia folks, with his e mail content and am awaiting a response....Could you PRETTY PLEASE take a look at the pic and see if I have missed some arcane procedural step. I have indeed added the pic usage template within the PIC history..ANY feedback would be GREATLY appreciated...I will of course ask Acroterion as well, BUT, you seem to have some experience with this if I recallCoal town guy (talk) 13:28, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
- It looks like you are on the right track. I know this situation requires a submission to OTRS, which it looks like you've done. I've never done it before, so I don't know how the whole process goes after you submit, but it looks like you have at least put a notice on the page that the submission is pending, which should hopefully stave off any kind of deletion until the situation gets cleared up. From having read some past threads on this same subject, don't be surprised if the wording of the email you got from the author doesn't exactly suit the legal eggheads. He may have to reword it and send it again to make sure all the legal bases are covered.
- Bummer that the historic building will be gone, but kudos to you for finding out ahead of time so a picture can be preserved. If I recall correctly, my friend from West Virginia who now lives in my hometown of Greenville is actually from Beckley. I'll have to ask next time I see him to be sure, but I know that city name sticks out in my head for some reason. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 13:38, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
- Beckleys Mayor is leaving office on corruption charges, its a bit of a local news thing, and he agreed to retire at end of 2013.......Other than that, I do not know if its in the National News now or not. It just gets better all the time in our own local heavens, doesnt it?Coal town guy (talk) 13:42, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, yeah. This wasn't all that near me, but I heard it on the radio not too long ago: Kentucky police chief under federal indictment for helping cover up mayor's meth lab. Sheesh. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 13:50, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
- Beckleys Mayor is leaving office on corruption charges, its a bit of a local news thing, and he agreed to retire at end of 2013.......Other than that, I do not know if its in the National News now or not. It just gets better all the time in our own local heavens, doesnt it?Coal town guy (talk) 13:42, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
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Joseph Desha
[edit]As last year, I suggested "him" for TFA. Will you shorten the blurb or should I try? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 02:45, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
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Cleanup banner
[edit]Hi Acdixon - I recently stumbled across John L. Helm and was surprised to see a cleanup banner in one of the sections (a state which I know is not normal for your featured articles!). As cleanup banners are generally not a good thing for FAs, is there any way this section can be referenced, or removed until a source is found? Let me know if there is anything I can do to help; I just didn't want to remove the section without asking first. Thanks in advance, Dana boomer (talk) 14:01, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads up. I've commented that section out for now. I've run into this issue before. Spacini (talk · contribs) was adding this information to several Kentucky governor articles as part of a project for the Kentucky Historical Society. The comments he added explain that the information is taken from public records and such, but some editors haven't really been satisfied with that. Spacini is aware of that and has asked me to just comment out the section any time the issue is raised until such time as he can beef up the referencing to the point that the complaining editors are satisfied. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 23:52, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Taylor v. Beckham
[edit]I left some more comments for you at Talk:Taylor v. Beckham. Sorry I didn't finish the PR in a timely manner. My excuse is that I've now discovered "mods" for Civ 5. --Laser brain (talk) 14:50, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
- No problem. I haven't had much time to properly address any comments anyway. My excuse? My second little girl was born two weeks ago! Of course, I discovered with my first one that, while they are babies, you can rock them with one arm and play Civ with the other! ;) I'll take a look ASAP, as we're starting to get the two-child routine down a little better now. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 23:55, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
- Congratulations! --Laser brain (talk) 01:27, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- Congrats!! (I was reading the section above this and happened to "eavesdrop" on this conversation...) That's awesome news! Dana boomer (talk) 02:23, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks to you both. We're settling into a routine, so I should be around more soon. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 16:29, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Main Page appearance: Joseph Desha
[edit]This is a note to let the main editors of Joseph Desha know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on December 9, 2013. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask Bencherlite (talk · contribs). You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/December 9, 2013. If it needs tweaking, or if it needs rewording to match improvements to the article between now and its main page appearance, please edit it, following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. The blurb as it stands now is below:
Joseph Desha (1768–1842) was a U.S. Representative and the ninth Governor of Kentucky. After serving in the Northwest Indian War, he moved to Mason County, Kentucky and parlayed his military record into several terms in the state legislature. In 1807, he was elected as a Democratic-Republican to the first of six consecutive terms in the U.S. House. He was a War Hawk, supporting the War of 1812, and commanded a division at the Battle of the Thames. Leaving the House in 1818, he lost to John Adair in the 1820 gubernatorial election. In 1824, he made a second campaign for governor based on promises of relief for the state's debtor class. He was elected by a large majority, and debt relief partisans captured both houses of the General Assembly. When the Kentucky Court of Appeals struck down debt relief legislation he favored, he lobbied the legislature to replace it with a new court. His reputation was damaged when he issued a pardon for his son, who was accused of murder. He also hastened the resignation of Transylvania University president Horace Holley, whom he considered too liberal. Desha retired from public life in 1828. (Full article...)
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The Tireless Contributor Barnstar |
Checking out the main page today I saw that Joseph Desha was appearing there as a FA. I'm thrilled to see that you are still contributing and that your work on the KY Governors is getting recognized on the main page. And I let my husband know that one of our photos was in the article. He will be pleased to see it there.
Thanks for all of the time that you put in contributing to Wikipedia. You have definitely added high quality free knowledge about Kentucky during your time as an editor. FloNight♥♥♥♥ 16:31, 9 December 2013 (UTC) |
- I bet Acdixon would also appreciate a review at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Taylor v. Beckham/archive1. :) --Laser brain (talk) 16:42, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- Support barnstar ;) - Who should come next, Walter Model (24 January, close) or John Y. Brown (1835–1904) (possibly a 2015 candidate)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:32, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks all for the kind words. I haven't contributed as much content lately due to real life circumstances, but I'm still trying to contribute images and draft content when I can. If I ever get back to John C. Breckinridge in earnest, it'll be a really interesting article series. Until then, I'm hoping to get a local history book for Christmas and polish up a few stub and start class articles about places near my hometown.
- @FloNight: Still appreciate the images you helped me get for Beauchamp–Sharp Tragedy. That was going nowhere without them, and now it's a featured topic! Acdixon (talk · contribs) 18:20, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Laser brain: Thanks for the plug; I would definitely appreciate some reviews! :) Acdixon (talk · contribs) 18:20, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: I don't know anything about Model, but Brown has some tangential connection to the Civil War, which is hitting a lot of 150-year anniversaries. His excoriation of Butler – while it got him censured – is nonetheless eloquent! hehe The 110th anniversary of his death is January 11, but that's probably too close to Desha. His birth date (June 28) and the date of his infamous speech (February 11) might be sufficiently distant, but as you mention, both have round number anniversaries in 2015 – 180 and 140 years, respectively – in 2015, so waiting might make some sense, too. I rarely get around to TFA anymore, but I appreciate your mindfulness of "my" articles there. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 18:20, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
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William Hayden English
[edit]Hello. Hate to bother you, but do you have time to review a featured article candidate? William Hayden English is an Indianan, not a Kentuckian, but the article could benefit from your expertise. Thanks! --Coemgenus (talk) 02:52, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
- Today is gonna be nutty, but I should have some time later this week. Looks like a pretty easy read and subject matter that I should have some familiarity with. I'll try to have a look. Thanks for your comments on Taylor v. Beckham. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 14:58, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'm a father, too, so I appreciate that your time on Wikipedia is limited. I enjoyed Taylor. I'd never heard of that election controversy before and found it very interesting. --Coemgenus (talk) 15:16, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
- Hey, just wanted to let you know I've responded to your comments at FAC. Thanks again for the review. --Coemgenus (talk) 12:47, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'm a father, too, so I appreciate that your time on Wikipedia is limited. I enjoyed Taylor. I'd never heard of that election controversy before and found it very interesting. --Coemgenus (talk) 15:16, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
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[edit]I need your help on activities of new user, who is nominating speedy page deletion of two pages that are notable TouchMail and Run Sheldon. Can you please look into this and do needful. Anishwiki12 (talk) 08:40, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Run Sheldon & TouchMail
[edit]I need your help on activities of new user, who is nominating speedy page deletion of two pages that are notable TouchMail and Run Sheldon. Can you please look into this and do needful. Anishwiki12 (talk) 08:47, 28 December 2013 (UTC)