User talk:Sven Manguard/2012 Q3
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July
It looks like your FFD nomination at File:A Wild Hare Original Title Card.jpeg ran into a script error, and was never listed at FFD. Monty845 05:56, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
- Wonderful.... thanks for letting me know. I'm going to go down the dungeon in the basement and beat Twinkle for this outrage. Sven Manguard Wha? 18:57, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
- Looks like twinkle needs another beating: File:Thad and Adrianne mid-show promo 2006.jpg. Monty845 18:19, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
This image DR
I thought I should perhaps notify you about this image deletion you filed. A number of users have criticised your nomination but I am neutral. Anyway, I thought you should be told as a courtesy. Regards from Western Canada, --Leoboudv (talk) 21:23, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- Ah. Well I wasn't an attack against TT (whom I've largely forgotten about), I stumbled on it while searching for another image that started with tt, File:TTA-35.jpg, as part of a research project into NFCC 3a abuse, saw TT's images, placed them up for deletion, and kept going. I didn't realize that he was still active despite the ban, and I regularly place images up for deletion when they're no longer in use and have little prospect for future use. I suppose it was a mistake to put TT's images into that category. Thanks for pointing me in the direction of that page though, at least now I understand why this happened. I suppose that I'll let it run since it's largely decided anyways. Cheers, Sven Manguard Wha? 21:50, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- That OK then. I thought with all these users seemingly critising you that you should be told. At Commons, images from a banned user face a higher chance of being deleted but this image appears to be in the public domain. Oh well. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 23:37, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
prod used as merge
While I don't disagree with several of the merge suggestions, needless to say using prod as a merge template is inappropriate. Just as AFD is not cleanup, by extension, neither is PROD.
Rather than just remove the Prods, however, if you perform the actual merges (copy the text over, etc., though only on the unsourced or stubbed episodes, I'll gladly wait instead of immediately removing. - jc37 01:02, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
- I should have been clearer in the statement; I think that the content that needs to be there is by and large already in the season articles. I will double check though, and get back to you. Sven Manguard Wha? 02:32, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
- How is it now? Less botched? :D Sven Manguard Wha? 02:45, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
- I found a reference for let bartlet be bartlet.
- But that aside, these aren't something someone made up in school one day. They're episodes of an emmy award winning TV series.
- There is no deadline, so there's no reason to not let the normal editing process continue as normal. - jc37 20:07, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
- Most television shows have a small number of notable episodes (those that won awards, those that were the topic of great discussion) that deserve articles, and a larger number of 'other' episodes that don't. A few shows with very high levels of popularity, South Park et. al., have articles, even GAs, on all epsiodes. I disagree with that basic premise, and think that history will judge the vast majority of those episodes as not notable. There is no reason why we should have one standard for popular shows and another for less popular ones. Therefore, I disagree with your argument. Sven Manguard Wha? 20:19, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
- First, "notable" is obviously in the eye of the beholder here.
- Second, in the modern era, with 24/7 television, and all sorts of news shows, every episode of any show are talked about in the media. People write articles about them, do interviews about them and so on.
- So I have to disagree with your assertion that these are not referenceable. (as that's what we deal with here, references, not personal judgement to censor.)
- Personally, I think it's far too easy to just claim NN on something when one is really saying IDONTWANTITHERE. Not singling you out for this, obviously, there are plenty of editors with such a bias. - jc37 20:59, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
- Most television shows have a small number of notable episodes (those that won awards, those that were the topic of great discussion) that deserve articles, and a larger number of 'other' episodes that don't. A few shows with very high levels of popularity, South Park et. al., have articles, even GAs, on all epsiodes. I disagree with that basic premise, and think that history will judge the vast majority of those episodes as not notable. There is no reason why we should have one standard for popular shows and another for less popular ones. Therefore, I disagree with your argument. Sven Manguard Wha? 20:19, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
In regard to...
...this, your response serves to illustrate why I hardly ever file SPI's (I didn't file this one either). Many questions were raised there by various parties, which I think everyone there would agree deserved some kind of answers; but alas there are no answers forthcoming - only an admonition to shut up and go away. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:07, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
- I've reverted myself and reopened the case. If you all don't stop fighting though, I will close it again. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:30, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
- I appreciate that. I'm done fighting it, and have taken it off my watch list. I think some of the others there are worrying about the wrong things. I'm well aware that CU's won't reveal anything publicly about connections to IP's. But they were coming up with stuff I had never heard before: Are you really restricted by somebody's laws from finding out what's going on with a user? Or did they make that up? I always thought CU's had pretty much free reign to investigate, while being duty-bound not to "out" anyone. Maybe I thunk wrong? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:41, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
- You're close to the mark. By visiting a website, pretty much any website, you are forking over your IP address and certain other pieces of information, such as your browser, OS, and other non-personally identifying techie stuff. It's already there for the site owner to view. I know the IP addresses of everyone that visits my blog (but I can't connect them to individual people unless I know where those people are located already, and volume from that location is low that day). I don't publish that information not because I legally can't, but because it's bad form. The only thing that ties the CUs hands is the WMF privacy policy, and even then in extreme cases that document is more malleable than anyone should be comfortable with. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:47, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you. Things are much clearer now. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:20, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
- It's worth pointing out that while there was a good deal of debate going on at the SPI, it was still pretty much polite. Compare with this,[1] for example. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:54, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you. Things are much clearer now. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:20, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
- You're close to the mark. By visiting a website, pretty much any website, you are forking over your IP address and certain other pieces of information, such as your browser, OS, and other non-personally identifying techie stuff. It's already there for the site owner to view. I know the IP addresses of everyone that visits my blog (but I can't connect them to individual people unless I know where those people are located already, and volume from that location is low that day). I don't publish that information not because I legally can't, but because it's bad form. The only thing that ties the CUs hands is the WMF privacy policy, and even then in extreme cases that document is more malleable than anyone should be comfortable with. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:47, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
- I appreciate that. I'm done fighting it, and have taken it off my watch list. I think some of the others there are worrying about the wrong things. I'm well aware that CU's won't reveal anything publicly about connections to IP's. But they were coming up with stuff I had never heard before: Are you really restricted by somebody's laws from finding out what's going on with a user? Or did they make that up? I always thought CU's had pretty much free reign to investigate, while being duty-bound not to "out" anyone. Maybe I thunk wrong? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:41, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
Please don't do that
[2] Nothing in that header says "results will be posted on 6 July", does it? It simply says the committee will complete its review of candidates. There are several other steps between the completion of review and the posting of results. Risker (talk) 02:04, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
- Apologies for editing your header. Since they schedule didn't specify that the process continued after the 6th, and since there was no word from ArbCom about the process, I figured I'd try and be helpful and let everyone know that the announcement hadn't been made. Sven Manguard Wha? 03:10, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Talkback
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ISBN
Let me know the page whereS the problem occurred if you remember it. Many thanks, Rich Farmbrough, 20:39, 11 July 2012 (UTC).
Personality rights/Commons
Hi! You're probably testing the presence of template "Personality rights" in files before adding the template. You probably want to check for "Personalityrights" too. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 20:03, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
- I'm checking manually, because my ability with AWB is still kind of meh. Was there something wrong? Sven Manguard Wha? 20:09, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
- BTW, I'm active on Commons, so you can leave messages there too. Sven Manguard Wha? 20:10, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
- Ah, OK. I just followed your message on Commons. Re: personality rights, you added the template to two of my pics that had it already (File:Scott LaValla Stade francais 2012-03-03 n02.jpg and File:Scott LaValla Stade francais 2012-03-03 n01.jpg). In both cases the template was called with
{{Personalityrights}}
, not{{Personality rights}}
, so I was wondering. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 21:47, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
- Ah, OK. I just followed your message on Commons. Re: personality rights, you added the template to two of my pics that had it already (File:Scott LaValla Stade francais 2012-03-03 n02.jpg and File:Scott LaValla Stade francais 2012-03-03 n01.jpg). In both cases the template was called with
- BTW, I'm active on Commons, so you can leave messages there too. Sven Manguard Wha? 20:10, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
MTC priority
Hi! Your bot removes the file from the priority category. I asume it is because it is orphan. A link has been added to {{Orphan image}} to make it easier to see where the file was originally used so perhaps your bot could add the template in the same bot run? --MGA73 (talk) 21:04, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
- I noticed this edit where there was both a MTC and a NowCommons. There is no need to add a priority if the file is on Commons. Just an info - fix or forget. --MGA73 (talk) 07:52, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Transfer to commons
Your bot is spot-on about transferring the file it marked that I uploaded here. However, I am not able to log into Commons and copy it there myself, as my login credentials don't work there. I've heard about the global account support, but do not know how to activate it so I can help out. --Wrldwzrd89talk 11:47, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- I posted more info about Account Merge and Unified Accounts on talk page for User:Wrldwzrd89.
- Take care, DutchTreat (talk) 11:54, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
Global bans policy discussion
At meta:Requests for comment/Global bans, where you have commented in support of Option 2, a third option has recently been implemented. The first two options did not prove a way for respondents to indicate that they oppose global bans entirely, i.e., that it is not possible to write a meaningful global bans policy that would attract their support. Option 3 is intended to provide that opportunity, and to aid in distinguishing between people who oppose the proposed policy because it requires improvements and those who oppose the proposed policy because no policy permitting global bans should be adopted.
Because the third section was added late by a respondent, it is possible that some people who responded early in the RFC have commented at option 2, but would really prefer to support option 3, or support both. If so, you may voluntarily choose to move your original comment or to or strikethrough your original comment and add new comments. This is a courtesy notice of the change, and there is no requirement that you take any action. WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:55, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
File:High-speed-railway-mapa-.jpg
Hey Sven Manguard, i'm the creator of 100px| English version, not done in svg, there's several copies of this file in Spanish 100px|, that's why in cancelled the Commons move, please let me straighten this out for clarity, in the mean time we should remove Flagging file as potentially eligible for transfer to Commons - Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 00:45, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
- Please go ahead and make the change. You should also add the {{nobots}} tag to the image in question, so that it isn't flagged over and over again. Sven Manguard Wha? 01:54, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
- OK, i'm overwhelmed by the different versions, shortly ill straighten it up, what should be do with the excess copies? - Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 03:11, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
- The same goes with File:Greater Buenos Aires 5.jpg, this is vintage 2008, i've created updated illustrations and this files should be put to rest, guess i should download updated files in commons, what should we do with older non commons files - Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 03:29, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
- If you don't want it to be around anymore, and you're the uploader, you can add {{db-self}} to the page and an admin will delete it. Sven Manguard Wha? 16:25, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
- The same goes with File:Greater Buenos Aires 5.jpg, this is vintage 2008, i've created updated illustrations and this files should be put to rest, guess i should download updated files in commons, what should we do with older non commons files - Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 03:29, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
- OK, i'm overwhelmed by the different versions, shortly ill straighten it up, what should be do with the excess copies? - Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 03:11, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
The West Wing
I note that you recently nominated 2 West wing episodes for deletion. I've just deletednominated nine more and you might be interested in checking out User:AussieLegend/The West Wing. There are actually about 130 episodes that should be deleted. If you happen to nominate any more, could you please let me know as I'd have to miss a chance to get rid of most of these. Thanks. --AussieLegend (talk) 14:52, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
- Honestly, it feels like you've got a bit of an agenda, so I'm thinking I'm going to avoid the area for a while. Sven Manguard Wha? 16:01, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
- No, no agenda, I just decided to clean up the articles in January because they were a mess. Only the season 6 & 7 article had been created - for some reason nobody had created the season 1-5 articles. When I created the season articles I started looking at the episode articles and found they were horrible. That's why I built User:AussieLegend/The West Wing. 2162 Votes is a great example of the typical problems. It's all plot summary (1,125 words - more than double what it should be) with some OR, no refs and so on. I started fixing the mess with the episode articles but was thwarted at every turn by people who wanted to keep the articles at all costs, but didn't want to put in the effort to improve them at all. In the end I pretty much gave up because I was on my own and having to put up with some rather silly excuses. If I do have an agenda, it's trying to get articles to some kind of minimum standard. --AussieLegend (talk) 16:42, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
A puzzle?
Re: File:Ken Smart-WWiA1947pg764.jpg
This file is used in reference 1 in article Edward Smart. However "File usage" says: "There are no pages that link to this file", (and thus your bot has tagged the file).
The Revision history of the file tells an interesting story:
- 09:23, 15 July 2012 Svenbot (Talk | contribs) . . (288 bytes) (+17) . . (BOT: Tagging orphaned free file for maintenance and statical purposes (Bot Build 2)) (undo)
- 09:59, 6 February 2012 Fbot (Talk | contribs) . . (271 bytes) (-18) . . (BOT: Removing Orphan image because the file is no longer orphaned.) (undo)
- 17:51, 8 December 2011 Fbot (Talk | contribs) . . (289 bytes) (+18) . . (BOT: Flagging orphaned free file) (undo)
- 22:28, 8 August 2009 Pdfpdf (Talk | contribs) . . (271 bytes) (+271) . . ( ...
i.e. It seems Fbot went through a similar scenario.
The same chain of events has occurred with File:Ken Smart.pdf
Have you any idea what's going on? Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 06:11, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- The reason this would happen is that the file has been used and then at a latter scan was shown not to be in use. The bot will change it when the change is noticed. Piandcompany (talk) 14:36, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yes. Obviously. The question was meant to imply: Why, at a later scan, was it shown not to be in use? And why, at a still later scan was it shown to be in use? The bot will change it when the change is noticed. What change? Given that nothing has changed, what is the change that the bot notices? What is making what changes, and why, and why is the bot noticing those changes, etc., etc.? Pdfpdf (talk) 11:57, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Dear Sven, Is your bot going to work out that these files are NOT orphans, or do I have to manually revert your bot's changes? Pdfpdf (talk) 12:02, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- The image is not being transcluded to any page on this project. If you're using it in a citation, the bot would have no way of knowing that. In the orphan template itself, and in the thread above, is a code you can put in to make Svenbot not continue to re-add the tag, however I hasten to point out that Svenbot is doing exactly what it's supposed to. Your case is something it would have no way of even comprehending. In fact, consider noting that you're using the image in a citation on the file description page, because there's no other way of knowing that short of seeing it in the article itself. Sven Manguard Wha? 21:01, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- Given that you have supplied a method to avoid Svenbot, and the problems it creates, I thank you for addressing and solving MY "problems".
- However, you seem to have misunderstood my intent, which was to be helpful and draw a problem to YOUR attention. I'll leave it to you as to whether you wish to solve it or not, but I'll be more direct in my description:
- Why is wikipedia saying: "There are no pages that link to this file" when, quite clearly, there are?
- however I hasten to point out that Svenbot is doing exactly what it's supposed to. - I disagree. I agree that "Svenbot is doing exactly what you told it to do". But I dispute and sincerely doubt that labeling a page which, quite clearly, is NOT an orphan, as an orphan, "is doing exactly what it's supposed to".
- Your case is something it would have no way of even comprehending. - If that is indeed the case, how did Fbot work it out, and correctly remove the template?
- Why does "Svenbot" exist when "Fbot" already exists, and seems to do a more accurate job?
- In fact, consider noting that you're using the image in a citation - Good idea! Thanks. Will do.
- Best wishes, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:08, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Greetings Sven
It seems too long since our editing paths have crossed. I resolved yesterday, that I should wish you well and that is what I am here to do. If you need anything, and I can help, you are welcome to call on me; anytime! Stay well and remain steadfast, as I remember your fine example. Best - 76Strat String da Broke da (talk) 15:05, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Wikimania Barnstar
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It was great to see you at Wikimania 2012! -evrik (talk) 18:42, 15 July 2012 (UTC) |
Svenbot
Please mark all your edits on this task minor. They are plugging up my watchlist, and they are certainly minor. Magog the Ogre (talk) 19:33, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- I'll get it done soon. It'll take a while to recompile everything though, and the task that's running now has been running for days, so I'm going to wait for it to finish before I switch it off. Sven Manguard Wha? 20:30, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- According to WP:VPT, use of the bot flag is optional. Please add that to your code as well. Also, get a new compiler. Magog the Ogre (talk) 20:51, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
inappropriate for Commons
Please stop reapplying this. SpinningSpark 22:19, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Profile Picture
Hi can you please advise what your bot has flagged is appropriate to be moved for http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Bashir_A._Tahir_Profile_Picture.jpg&diff=next&oldid=501931697 As a newbie, I would appreciate the rationale. Thanks Truealpha (talk) 03:42, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Concord Picture
As the original photographer and uploader of the image [3] which your bot flagged to be moved to/copied to the WikiCommons, I have no issue with that. NECRATSpeak to me 05:42, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
svenbot
Why does the bot tag this file with |bot=svenbot
? I tagged the image for moving it to Commons! [4] mabdul 10:02, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not Sven but I think that the reason is to add the "|priority=true". However if you add mtc manually you could add "|human=Mabdul" to indicate that you have checked the file and found it eligible for Commons and perhaps also fixed the description etc. --MGA73 (talk) 11:01, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- When I'm updating such descriptions and such things (for the case I know it better), then I use FCTG and upload it directly, but really: at the moment a) I have other problems and b) I'm uploading enough from enwb to commons! Moreover I used TW for tagging and thus I won't reedit the file description page AGAIN only for stupid bots... so either fix the bot or TW! mabdul 11:40, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not saying you should... I said you could :-) The reason I told you about the human review is that it tells other users that a human checked the file and prepared it for Commons. Fixing the description could be simple things like this to add links and remove unneeded text but it could also be to add more text (from the article where the photo is used). I doubt we could make TW do that. --MGA73 (talk) 12:44, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
svenbot tags
Are there any tags that can be used to prevent svenbot from tagging a particular file?--RadioFan (talk) 12:45, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- It ignores {{nobots}} Piandcompany (talk) 16:36, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- What he meant was "It ignores pages with {{nobots}} on them." Sven Manguard Wha? 20:18, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- Personally I think that {{Bots|deny=Svenbot}} is better because {{nobots}} will "kill" all bots. --MGA73 (talk) 20:46, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- Sure. That'll work too, and is probably a better option. I can't think of any other bots that work in the File namespace, but I'll update my FAQ with the more specific code. Sven Manguard Wha? 20:48, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- I updated {{Orphan image}} and some files with a deny=Fbot to deny=Svenbot like here :-) --MGA73 (talk) 20:52, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- Sure. That'll work too, and is probably a better option. I can't think of any other bots that work in the File namespace, but I'll update my FAQ with the more specific code. Sven Manguard Wha? 20:48, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- Personally I think that {{Bots|deny=Svenbot}} is better because {{nobots}} will "kill" all bots. --MGA73 (talk) 20:46, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- What he meant was "It ignores pages with {{nobots}} on them." Sven Manguard Wha? 20:18, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Images flagged
Please do not flag again File:ValentinaIgoshina.JPG and File:ClaireMarieLeGuay.JPG to be copied to Commons. Thee quality of the images is not good enough. Thanks. Kraxler (talk) 22:53, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
- Please read the thread above. It contains the instructions you need. Sven Manguard Wha? 22:59, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Travel guide discussion
Regarding this comment of yours, the RfC is about a proposal to set up a new project, not the behaviour of individual users supporting (or opposing) that proposal. If you have a problem with those users, can I suggest you take it up with them directly?
As it happens, I agree with you that responses within the Oppose section are counterproductive, but the other side of the coin is that if those opposing users do not present their views elsewhere (eg. the Talk page), then it's not really possible to debate them, and that's why people keep replying. Jpatokal (talk) 02:22, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- To me, the people doing the badgering are the face of the incoming project. These overly aggressive tactics being employed raise concerns about the kind of culture that we'd be bringing into the fold. We have enough problems with badgering and "I'm always right and I'll fight you about it" type personalities already. Sven Manguard Wha? 02:52, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Question on CC vs PS license for images from Yale Center for British Art
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- Shall I tag you for perpetuating copyright violations or would you prefer to self-revert? --Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:17, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- I've already told you: edit the images at Commons (which you've been doing, albeit while edit warring to get there), don't remove them here. If you remove them again, I'm going to go to AN/I because I'm not going to run afoul of 3RR. Sven Manguard Wha? 06:19, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- I'm sorry. You can't take the higher ground because the images on the commons have been found to be against copyright but a cabal has been edit warring to keep them in. So you are a vandal when you restore them knowing that they break copyright. And besides, you're also breaking WP:MOSFLAG guidelines, particularly WP:INFOBOXFLAG. But I'm tired of edit warring with you. I'll just report you instead. I added some of them kits in earlier in they day so reverting those doesn't put me at 3RR yet. Cheers. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:23, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- And I'll be happy to defend myself at AN/I and I'll have several supporters from the football project with me. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:24, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- I've already told you: edit the images at Commons (which you've been doing, albeit while edit warring to get there), don't remove them here. If you remove them again, I'm going to go to AN/I because I'm not going to run afoul of 3RR. Sven Manguard Wha? 06:19, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Green Lantern (film)
The problem is a tag that's supposed to be /ref (with brackets) but is instead ref/ (with brackets). Sorry, I should have mentioned that at ANI. Fix that and the page should return to normal. Evanh2008 (talk|contribs) 07:23, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
A beer for you!
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I understand what you did was in good faith and I fully understand that. Thanks for maintaining the integrity of Wikipedia in the face of zealots like me. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:57, 22 July 2012 (UTC) |
- Someone updated the kit on a page I watch and pointed-out the docs for kits on the English site: Template:Football kit#Creating and naming a new pattern. You may want to discuss there. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:16, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
"Travel Guide" on Meta
Hello, Sven Manguard,
by chance you are the first contributor here :[5]; that's why I address just you. Beforehand, I have loads of interests, among others the Bavarian Book Language, a construct intended to unite somehow the Bavarians; so, travel guides are not my major preoccupation.
But, what is definitely important to me, is that such guides would have to breathe something of the spirit of e. g. the German "Kauderwelsch" guides. That means, not just to inform, but also to include the locals, anyhow, anywhere. Well, "Kauderwelsch" is a language guides series beforehand, but this would have to be valid also for our travel rail: Never neglect the local situation! Never forget the local language conditions (and be it, that most chambermaids come from the even poorer xy-Islands and so on)! Never let a tourist return home without having learned something!
So, sorry if I disturbed you, but I just wanted you to explain my vote on Meta on this theme.
--Hellsepp (talk) 20:44, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Bot bug
See here. Your bot shouldn't ask people to move files without permission to Commons. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:51, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- I will make sure that di-no permission is actually on the blacklist. If it is, then you have indeed found a bug. It might not be though. Thanks, Sven Manguard Wha? 20:58, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- By the way, where is the blacklist for the moment? It used to be in Fbot's userspace but the whole userspace was deleted when Fastily decided to retire. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:48, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- It's on Labs now. That does make it a bit more painful to edit, but it's still possible. Sven Manguard Wha? 22:26, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- By the way, where is the blacklist for the moment? It used to be in Fbot's userspace but the whole userspace was deleted when Fastily decided to retire. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:48, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
DASHBot
On my Talk Page you wrote: Could you please explain why you turned off the DASHBot resize function? Thank you, Sven Manguard Wha? 14:09, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
I followed a link on an image I had originally uploaded. It -- like many others -- was credited as being uploaded by the person called DASHBot. I wanted to know why he was taking credit for my uploads. The page I found only contained a text message about turning off by changing the "yes" to "anything but yes." I concluded it was a prank page set up but a user and did what it suggested because it said so. I meant no harm. Could see no functionality to it. Sorry if that was not the case. Jason Palpatine (talk) 08:14, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- DASHBot resizes non-free images that are too large (non-free images really aren't supposed to be larger than 160,000 pixels). The larger version is then later deleted by an admin. That's why you can't see your version. Your edit is still in the edit history though. Sven Manguard Wha? 22:37, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
I trust this is better? That got creative in fixing, logs look like heck. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:35, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. Now all I have to do is fix the article so that it indicates that he is no longer the ambassador. Then I need to fix Lee Tae-sik's article to indicate that he isn't the ambassador anymore either. That's not a task for tonight though. Sven Manguard Wha? 04:43, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
- Alright. Shame an article on a former prime minister is in such terrible shape. But, then again, it could be worse... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:34, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
This article DR
You uploaded the image used for this person's wikipedia article that someone has now proposed for deletion. Perhaps you would care to give a vote--or comment--to keep it or prefer to stay neutral. Its your decision. I think this person (R. Roddenberry) has general notability in the Star Trek world siince he has done several projects connected with Star Trek. But that's just my opinion. Regards, --Artene50 (talk) 07:49, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
Interlanguage wikipedia link within artile discussion
Some Chinese Wikipedian told me, English Wikipedia is a improper place to discuss this issue. I closed the discussion and moved to meta. Please continue the discussion in meta.--王小朋友 (talk) 08:17, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
August
I moved the Supercopa de Catalunya from pre-seasons to its own section since it's going to be played during the season as an official regional competition. Should we link it to the Copa Catalunya as a main article? La Fuzion (K lo K) 01:55, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
- Your call. Sven Manguard Wha? 02:09, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Richmond Flying Squirrels
I didn't remove any info on the Binghamton Triplets before the merge. I transfered the info of the Triplets to the Flying Squirrels page. I also transfered the Triplets info to the NYSEG Stadium (home stadium of the Binghamton Mets) page by creating a section about Johnson Field, the Triplets home stadium. I understand the Triplets are an historic team, but the team exists today as the Flying Squirrels. I even added the Triplets alumni to the Flying Squirrels page and also to the Connecticut Defenders page respectfully. I transfered the Triplets info to these pages so that the Triplets' history doesn't get lost and also people will look more on the franchise's main page which is the Flying Squirrels page than the other pages that represent the different incarnations of the Flying Squirrels franchise. I will add a sentence to the Triplets section of the Flying Squirrels page that Triplets are one of the historic teams of minor league baseball like I did with the Jersey City Giants on the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees page. Silvercoindinerman (talk) 01:59, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
- Oh. My bad. Carry on. Sven Manguard Wha? 02:09, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Svenbot - blacklist update request
Please add Template:Nominated for deletion on commons (I created it to separate files tagged with template:Not moved to Commons waiting for ridiculously backlogged deletion requests on commons) Bulwersator (talk) 05:58, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
File:TrigonometricCentres.png
Hi, please stop tagging File:TrigonometricCentres.png as {{Copy to Wikimedia Commons}}
. There is a note on the file description page stating why this must not be done. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:27, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- Svenbot is a bot; it cannot read messages in plain text. You need to use {{Bots|deny=Svenbot}} to prevent Svenbot from tagging your file. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:26, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
Files at CCI
Hi! It is good to see you working on the files again. And while I looked at some of the files in Wikipedia:Contributor_copyright_investigations/Md_iet#PDFs I noticed that you nominated one of them for deletion. Funny how files can be left alone for months and suddenly 2 users look at the file at the same time :-) Ok... Perhaps not funny fummy... :-D Anyway this message is just meant as a "Good to see ya!" and a "Perhaps you could have a look at {{File at CCI}}. I changed it a bit but I'm not a native English user so it would be nice to know that someone had checked it it was totally nonsens or or. --MGA73 (talk) 10:29, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- Update. I just finished checking and I suggest that we delete all the "pdf photos". I think some of them are clear copyvios yet the uploader still claims that the files are own work. :-( --MGA73 (talk) 16:03, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- And thank you for checking the template! --MGA73 (talk) 16:03, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
I got your email
At least, I assume it was yours. I had an internet provider failure for the last two days, and now am out of town for two days. I looked briefly at the ticket, which looks like the main point was missed. I will try to sort it out Thursday, although anyone is free to jump in if willing.SPhilbrick(Talk) 12:29, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- I don't remember sending you an email. That dosen't mean that I didn't send it though. Do me a favor and forward it to me so I know what you're talking about. Sven Manguard Wha? 00:14, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
files deletion
Hello, on 15 May 2012 you removed all the images from the Egyptian Air Force ranks article and you said in the summary (Not an appropriate use of non-free files) so the files were orphaned later marked for deletion and deleted although they had the right copyright licenses and it tool a long time and effort uploading them and adding the right information to avoid such problems, I'd like to know what was the reason behind removing the images from the page and not removing them from this page : Australian Army officer rank insignia which is almost 100% identical to how the one you removed files from.--Zo3a (talk) 21:34, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
- Simple: I didn't see that page. Sven Manguard Wha? 03:09, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Done. If you find any others, please let me know. Sven Manguard Wha? 03:11, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Yo Dawg
New release, plus office hours in 1 hour. Be there ;p. sorry for the short notice! Ironholds (talk) 18:02, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry. Kinda sick, was sleeping. Sven Manguard Wha? 01:12, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
- That's okay; sorry to hear that :(. Ironholds (talk) 17:23, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. It's nothing serious. When's the second, follow up session? Sven Manguard Wha? 21:54, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
- That's okay; sorry to hear that :(. Ironholds (talk) 17:23, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
SPI Clerking
Hello Sven, we haven't had a chance to catch up in while :( I was just wondering if you were still interested in continuing your SPI clerk training? -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 04:26, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
- I've been spending 85-90% of my WMF project time at Commons recently. The project has its flaws, but it's so much nicer of a work environment, and it's much more my style of work. I guess I'd have to say "call me if you ever lose some people and things get swamped, I'd be happy to help, but put me on the inactive list for now". Sven Manguard Wha? 21:52, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
- Also, and this may seem strange coupled with the above, there's no reason for me to be marked as a trainee anymore. I can do the job, I just would rather be doing other things. Sven Manguard Wha? 21:53, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
CCI update
![]() | Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Arab League is now complete. Thank you for your assistance in the evaluation of this CCI. |
Whoot! What a day-brightener. Thank you very much. :D --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:43, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
Kiefer.Wolfwowitz lives
Hej Sven!
I am sorry for the delay in responding to your email. I sent you another copy of the file in belated response to your query.
Best regards, Kiefer.Wolfowitz 21:10, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
- I've been swamped lately. I'll look into it now. Sven Manguard Wha? 01:07, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Re:Category:Copy_to_Wikimedia_Commons_(bot-assessed)
Is Category:Move to Commons Priority Candidates and Category:Copy_to_Wikimedia_Commons_(bot-assessed) fully populated? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bulwersator (talk • contribs)
- Not right now. I can run the bot again in a few hours. Depending on how many edits it needs to make, the process could take anywhere from an afternoon to several days. If it's the latter, I won't be able to run it fully because I won't run it when I'm asleep or otherwise AFK for more than fifteen minutes. Sven Manguard Wha? 15:43, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- P.S. - I'm very interested in why you'd be asking. Is there another transfer drive in the works?
- No, I am just interested in real size of backlog and whatever it is decreasing Bulwersator (talk) 16:21, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- That I can tell you without running the bot. It's not decreasing. My best estimates are that Wikipedia adds between 50 and 100 new freely licensed images a day, and moves over to Commons (except during transfer drives) between 0 and 10. It hasn't shrunk since the last transfer drive, several months ago. Sven Manguard Wha? 16:32, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- I found something interesting - User:Multichill/Free uploads and it confirms "between 50 and 100" estimate. Bulwersator (talk) 21:52, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
- I certainly hope so, that's where I got my numbers from. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:21, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
- Category:All free media should be a the max estimate for how many files we have that may be eligible for Commons. --MGA73 (talk) 17:23, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- That has 347,135. Based on nothing but experiance, I'd say that translates into 329,778 free files and 17,357 non-free files that are mislabeled (yes, I'm saying that 1 in every 200 files is a false claim of own work or otherwise a copyvio). There's also probably at least 1000-2000 files marked as non-free that would be better marked as PD-textlogo. So yeah, to sum it all up we have roughly 330,000 free files and we add about 2250 to that number every month. Sven Manguard Wha? 04:52, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- According to IA ( http://wayback.archive.org/web/20110915000000*/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:All_free_media ) it contained more than 300k files in 2009, 500k in 2010 and 400k in 2011 Bulwersator (talk) 10:33, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- Today it is 346,691 - so numbers are going down. At the current rate we need about 20 years to clean this backlog :) Bulwersator (talk) 21:52, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
- That has 347,135. Based on nothing but experiance, I'd say that translates into 329,778 free files and 17,357 non-free files that are mislabeled (yes, I'm saying that 1 in every 200 files is a false claim of own work or otherwise a copyvio). There's also probably at least 1000-2000 files marked as non-free that would be better marked as PD-textlogo. So yeah, to sum it all up we have roughly 330,000 free files and we add about 2250 to that number every month. Sven Manguard Wha? 04:52, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- Interesting, I wonder where new files go. Category:User-created public domain files is quite noticeable decreasing, and almost all new are transferred. Bulwersator (talk) 06:32, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- Yes that is my favorite category to work on because unless it is a derivative work or a clear copyvio we do not have to worry about when it was first published etc. so I often move files from there. I moved 87 (from this user) yesterday.
- The new files probably go to Category:CC-zero files because it is a more formal license than PD-self.
- And yes there are many files that has a bad license (probably like some of the files on the link I gave above). The best would be to have a team check all new files and contact the uploaders right after the file was uploaded. --MGA73 (talk) 06:38, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, so there are people working on transfers. That's good to hear. As for the decreasing numbers, I was not aware of that. It's been at 300,000 for as long as I've watched it. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:04, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- I also thought the number of free files was growing. Good to know it is going the right way. The largest drop I know of was a serie of 25,000 files that I persuaded Multichill to move in 2010 or 2011.
- I'm not sure that a new drive with a lot of counting and checking other users "MtC-drive work" is a good idea but perhaps we could improve the process? We have a category with free files that is in use. But we can't just move them all because they may be copyvios because uploader is not the photographer or because it is a photo of an unfree building. We can only spot copyvios by checking manually but we could perhaps sort out the derivative works. What if we devided the files into smaller categories like "Photos used in articles in FOP counties" and "Photos used in articles in non-FOP countries" and "Photos used in articles about animals and plants" and "Photos used in articles about persons" etc.? Perhaps it is a bad idea to create 25 categories like the ones I mention to begin with but we could try with one of them. For example "Plants and animals" as they should all be free and easier to catch than FOP/no-FOP. I have no idea how many files it would be but if it is 6.000 files we could make a small "Lets empty that category MtD-drive". Perhaps this is not the place but I could not stop :-D --MGA73 (talk) 08:15, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, so there are people working on transfers. That's good to hear. As for the decreasing numbers, I was not aware of that. It's been at 300,000 for as long as I've watched it. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:04, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- I found something interesting - User:Multichill/Free uploads and it confirms "between 50 and 100" estimate. Bulwersator (talk) 21:52, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
- That I can tell you without running the bot. It's not decreasing. My best estimates are that Wikipedia adds between 50 and 100 new freely licensed images a day, and moves over to Commons (except during transfer drives) between 0 and 10. It hasn't shrunk since the last transfer drive, several months ago. Sven Manguard Wha? 16:32, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- No, I am just interested in real size of backlog and whatever it is decreasing Bulwersator (talk) 16:21, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- I like that idea. If we do them as hidden "tracking" categories, there's no real downside. Can you program a bot to do that, or should I commission one? Another idea would be to have a bot check to see if a file has a fully filled out Template:Information template/ That's generally a sign that the uploader knows what he's doing, and it also speeds up transfers. The template itself is 78 characters (114 with spaces), so we could hunt for bad files by looking for pages less than 75 bytes in size, maybe? Finally, we need to spread the word about WP:FTCG, it makes everything better. Sven Manguard Wha? 21:46, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- Perhaps we should jump to the MtC or MtC-drive discussion talk with the suggestions.
- I'm not sure I could program a bot to do the task. To begin with we could do it as a one time job and then see if it works or not. But lets discuss it some more somewhere else before we make the mtc-template even more complex ;-) --MGA73 (talk) 19:56, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
Coat of arms are fine
Check out some of my sub-pages, the majority of national history templates use coat of arms perfectly fine and having no problem, even the newly created templates (about African countries' history) also apply the idea of using coat of arms. ༆ (talk) 08:33, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- Alright. Whatever. If everyone's doing it, I'm not going to argue. Sven Manguard Wha? 01:06, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Re:File:"I_Am_Not_an_Advocate_for_Frequent_Changes_._._."_at_Jefferson_Memorial.jpg
One Copy to Wikimedia Commons template should be enough :) Bulwersator (talk) 10:37, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- That's a bug. I'll investigate. Sven Manguard Wha? 01:06, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Porting
Hey Sven, long time, no talk. Just wondering if you would like me to port the new code over to labs? DFTBA! Piandcompany (talk) 00:13, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- Hey, sorry I haven't gotten back to you. Fastily incorporated the improvements you made into a near complete rewrite (using an updated library) a few weeks ago. When I asked you for help with this project I had no idea that he was going to come back and get involved with Fbot again. Right now it's not in any shape to get moved over to labs, but it's not being run right now because I never have the time to do it myself, so I might consider moving it back to labs again soon. I hope you don't feel betrayed or anything by this. I'll update you soon, Sven Manguard Wha? 01:05, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- No problem. When you feel it's ready, just forward the code over. Piandcompany (talk) 13:49, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Talkback
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next time check the existing image please. ;-) PS: Why not uploading an up-to-date image? This is on of our biggest strength: being up-to-date, although many articles lack references and stuff... mabdul 23:46, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- I did check the image, although I missed that it was on Commons. It's gone from there now. My position is that if the software being screenshotted didn't change (requester did not indicate that it was a new edition of Adobe Audition) there is no reason to update the image. The only thing that would change between an update from Windows 7 to Windows 8 is the border. When that's the case, I still maintain that there's no reason to update. Sven Manguard Wha? 01:21, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
File:Mer Logo.png
Please copy the File:Mer Logo.png using your bot as soon as possible. --Alfasst (talk) 04:57, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
- First, my bot does not transfer files (bots should never transfer files without case-by-case human approval), and second, I will not help you circumvent a deletion discussion by transferring the file, which may be non-free, to Commons. Solve that first please. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:28, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia Commons
Hello,
could you please help me in commons? Appearently administrators there (Herbythyme & Jameslwoodward) have a Grudge against me [6]. All files uploaded by me have been nominated for deletion, and my accounts have also been Banned. --Ne0 (talk) 05:04, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
- Looking at the situation, I'm seeing some edits that are clearly non-constructive, and I'm seeing a whole lot of deletion discussions about uploads with questionable authorship. None of their actions are incorrect, as far as I can tell. You should approach them for help if you don't understand why the edits were reverted and the files were placed up for deletion, rather than approach other admins and say that they've got a grudge against you. They most certainly didn't have a grudge against you before you made this post here, and probably still don't have one now. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:33, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
- I am assuming this means you are giving me permission to bypass my IP block on Commons: "Your IP address or user name has been automatically blocked because it was used by another user, who was blocked by Jameslwoodward. The reason given is: Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Ne0Freedom"." ...Thanks --Ne0 (talk) 17:37, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
- No, I'm not. That is not what I said, and you know it. If you evade a block, you're just going to get reblocked. You can still post to your talk page and contest the block there, or email the admins in question. Sven Manguard Wha? 15:59, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
- I am assuming this means you are giving me permission to bypass my IP block on Commons: "Your IP address or user name has been automatically blocked because it was used by another user, who was blocked by Jameslwoodward. The reason given is: Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Ne0Freedom"." ...Thanks --Ne0 (talk) 17:37, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
Thmc1 sockpuppet investigation..REPLY REQUESTED
I need to bring to your attention, or that of any other SysAdmin the ongoing sockpuppet investigation of Thmc1, who was originally blocked back in June of 2010. In the current investigation, Kudpung has blocked several IPs used by Thmc1 and even concluded that the suspected accounts are in fact "block evasives" of Thmc1. Nonetheless, he has yet to block those account(s) and is asking for the involvement of another SysAdmin. It's been over a week, and nothing has happened since that time. If possible, could you or another SysAdmin give it a further check[7]? Considering the circumstances that Thmc1 violated the ban and has returned to continue his disruptive edits, I would suggest that you permanently block his accounts, suspected IPs, as well as any other unidentified IPs used by the accounts and other unknown accounts affiliated with them.MBaxter1 (talk) 21:02, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not a checkuser or an admin on this project, and I'm not active at SPI. Please approach someone else from that list. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:34, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Edit warring on commons?
So you feel that Template:Football kit#Creating and naming a new pattern, "Club badges, sponsor logos, and manufacturer logos should never be included", is not a valid reason for removing the logos from the commons. Why is that? I want this discussion here so that you can be blocked from English Wikipedia for encouraging what English Wikipedia considers to be a copyright infringement. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:18, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- Perhaps you could rephrase this more sweetly? Kiefer.Wolfowitz 18:50, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- Walter, English Wikipedia is not the only project that uses those files. Other projects have, apparently, other rules. The message I delivered has backing from other admins, so you'd be wise to just accept my recommendations. That being said, I will not indulge you any further on this page. Commons issues go on my Commons talk page. Sven Manguard Wha? 22:21, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Template:Keep local
I understand why this template exists - but it is quite irritating during moving files to Commons, as it is not clear whatever file is copied. I was thinking whatever additional parameter ({{Keep local|file exists on Commons=yes}} or creating new template - something like Template:Now Commons, ineligible for F8 would be better idea Bulwersator (talk) 21:05, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
PS editnotice for this page have slight problem - "becuase" Bulwersator (talk) 21:05, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
- If you add "|1=Name.jpg" or "|Name.jpg" the template will tell you that the file is on Commons. We should just update the documentation. I think we should avoid new templates because we would need to update a number of scripts/tools also. --MGA73 (talk) 21:27, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
Svenbot
Hi, Sven. I was just wondering about the status of Svenbot; there's a message at the top of Category:Non-free files with orphaned versions more than 7 days old indicating the bot will remove the maintenance template after the unused non-free revisions are removed. But the bot has not edited since August 4. So I am wondering if there's another bot doing this task right now, or if I should be removing the templates manually for the time being? Thanks for your help. -- Dianna (talk) 14:38, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- That task isn't working. Go ahead and do it manually. Sven Manguard Wha? 00:17, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
September
Joel Brand
Hi Sven, could you say what your objection is to this, and how it could mess up the sourcing? SlimVirgin (talk) 17:18, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
- Simple. If someone else goes in and adds another source that's alphabetically between Bauer and Brand, doesn't know what that line is, and puts the source between Bauer and the line, they've now messed up the sourcing. It's simple enough to google this person (assuming your native language is English), but it becomes much more difficult when it's a journal article, or something like a newspaper or magazine article that's not online. It gets even harder still when we deal with old documents or documents in other languages most English Wikipedians can't read or type. In short, _____. poses a significant risk of screwing up sourcing, but offers no benefit. Just copy past the name if it's hard to type. Please. I've had to sort out colossal messes because of this and ibid. Sven Manguard Wha? 22:23, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
- Thank for the reply. I don't mind leaving the name when it's repeated only once, but it looks odd when it's repeated several times, so I'd prefer in those cases to use the line. Errors of the kind you describe are easily fixed, but I take your point that they can be avoided entirely by adding the name. SlimVirgin (talk) 18:31, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, if someone is willing to go through the edit history for long enough, the proper citation can generally be found. However that assumes that a) we're dealing with it on Wikipedia, not in printed form, and more importantly b) that the mistake is caught. Sven Manguard Wha? 14:06, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thank for the reply. I don't mind leaving the name when it's repeated only once, but it looks odd when it's repeated several times, so I'd prefer in those cases to use the line. Errors of the kind you describe are easily fixed, but I take your point that they can be avoided entirely by adding the name. SlimVirgin (talk) 18:31, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
Baseless deletion of a photo
Hello Sven, I would like to know the reason you deleted File:Russian newpspaers in America.jpg. The photo was taken by me and I simply can't understand why you deleted it. If you can't do your job well, then don't do it! --Yerevanci (talk) 15:54, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
- You might have taken a photo of the newspaper, but that doesn't erase the copyright that the newspaper has over its front cover. The image you took is composed entirely of copyrighted elements you don't own. Therefore it isn't free. Please read Commons' policy on derivative works. Sven Manguard Wha? 16:56, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
- Are you kidding me? Look at all these photos: [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14] and many, many others on the Commons.--Yerevanci (talk) 17:00, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
- Links 4 and 9 probably ought to be deleted as well. The rest are explained by de minimis.
- I recommend that you go to a newspaper stand and take a photo that looks more like [15], which is perfectly acceptable (note how only the titles and tiny bits of the edges are showing). Sven Manguard Wha? 17:20, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
- Are you kidding me? Look at all these photos: [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14] and many, many others on the Commons.--Yerevanci (talk) 17:00, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
Michal Šulla
Hi! Can you undeleted article about Slovak goalkeeper Michal Šulla. He made his professional debut for Spartak Myjava against 1. FC Tatran Prešov on 1 September 2012, Myjava win 2 - 0. Thanks, 18:11, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
- I am not an admin. Sven Manguard Wha? 16:52, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
Possible sockpuppetry
May you have a look at here: [1] - Intelinside13core (talk) 18:08, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, but no. I am not currently active at SPI and have no interest in getting involved with an investigation at this time. Sven Manguard Wha? 18:12, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
- Ok doesn't matter. Can you recommend me some currently active users regarding SPI? -- Intelinside13core (talk) 18:16, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
One question added after your vote
Thanks much for voting. When we put the RfC together, one thing we were all agreed on was that it should run a week, so that it didn't take too much time away from more central questions ... but we decided not to put that in the RfC, I think because we didn't want to force a cutoff in the middle of a good debate. At this point, I've added that question, if you'd like to vote on that one too. - Dank (push to talk) 15:22, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
- Nope. One post and one post only. The PC debate is a spike-filled bottomless pit. I try to keep my distance from it, else I might accidentally fall in. Sven Manguard Wha? 22:32, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
- In that case, throw me a rope :) - Dank (push to talk) 01:35, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
As a major national laboratory, it's almost certainly notable, but the article was copied from their website and read like it, also. I deleted it as copyvio & will advise the author how to do things here. For organizations, I find it is generally worth checking, whether or not the site is listed in the article. DGG ( talk ) 22:51, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
Page Curation update
Hey all :). We've just deployed another set of features for Page Curation. They include flyouts from the icons in Special:NewPagesFeed, showing who reviewed an article and when, a listing of this in the "info" flyout, and a general re-jigging of the info flyout - we've also fixed the weird bug with page_titles_having_underscores_instead_of_spaces in messages sent to talkpages, and introduced CSD logging! As always, these features will need some work - but any feedback would be most welcome.
Backlog of RFCs at WP:AN
Seems to be a shortage of people willing to close RfCs, and they are piling up. Most don't require an admin, just someone with good common sense, solid experience and an ability to judge consensus. I think you easily qualify. Please consider helping out by closing one or two a week. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 13:42, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you for your vote of confidence. Because you made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside, I closed one. I looked at the others, and decided against closing them. The only one that I felt comfortable enough in dealing with, the conter-terrorism in Syria category, I can't act on because non-admins can't delete. (If you're going to close that, note the blocked sock). Sven Manguard Wha? 23:10, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
- Excellent. You can still close RfCs that require some form of admin action like moving, and just get an admin to move it via WP:AN. Of course, you want to be confident in your closes regardless, but I trust you to know your own limits. Hopefully, this is something you can look at once or twice a week in the future, to help out and get some good round experience. It is certainly appreciated by more than me. We need experienced editors participating in these, not just admins. And of course I have confidence in you, you outrank me at WP:SPI, after all. And the admin bit doesn't make you smarter, just sexier ;) Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 23:46, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
HELP
Hi Sven,
Sorry for trouble but I wanted to know whether I can rename a file at the commons for the reason Disambiguate? The auto-script doesn't provide that option. So can i manually edit the page with {{rename media}} and give the reason as #7-Disambiguate? Harsh (talk) 15:49, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- As long as it is the kind of disambiguation described at the file mover page page, then yes, you can. Sven Manguard Wha? 01:22, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
It's about time for...
adminship, isn't it? Tell me whether you accept or not. I'll be your nominator. Regards--Morning Sunshine (talk) 15:53, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you. I am already in the investigative/planning stages for another run, and would be happy to have you as a co-nominator. My plan is to run after I finish bringing Liao Dynasty to GA status, which should definitely happen before the end of the year. Sven Manguard Wha? 16:12, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
- Sven, I've been thinking the same thing for several months. It's about time you ran, and having the mop would only benefit the project in your case. Electric Catfish 20:13, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
*poke*
Moved thing. You edit conflicted! -— Isarra ༆ 03:10, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh... Sven Manguard Wha? 03:12, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- <3 -— Isarra ༆ 03:13, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- I'm legitimately confused by what you did. I see your new page, but not where it's showing up on the proposals main page. Sven Manguard Wha? 03:14, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- I don't know what I'm doing. I just moved the content to the thing and linked to it in a couple sections. Should it also be transcluded? Or just add a link somewhere more... for such links? -— Isarra ༆ 03:17, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, you'd transclude it by putting it in the {{ }} things, as if it were a template. Honestly though the original one at the VP (section header "Proposed changes to the edit interface") works better than the subpage. I've left my comment there. If you want to move it over, fine. If not, fine. I need sleep, so I won't be around to see what you do. Sven Manguard Wha? 03:18, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- Okay, thing moved. But should it be transcluded, though? -— Isarra ༆ 03:24, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, you'd transclude it by putting it in the {{ }} things, as if it were a template. Honestly though the original one at the VP (section header "Proposed changes to the edit interface") works better than the subpage. I've left my comment there. If you want to move it over, fine. If not, fine. I need sleep, so I won't be around to see what you do. Sven Manguard Wha? 03:18, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- I don't know what I'm doing. I just moved the content to the thing and linked to it in a couple sections. Should it also be transcluded? Or just add a link somewhere more... for such links? -— Isarra ༆ 03:17, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- I'm legitimately confused by what you did. I see your new page, but not where it's showing up on the proposals main page. Sven Manguard Wha? 03:14, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- <3 -— Isarra ༆ 03:13, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
OTRS Images without license
I count about 55 images in this query:
They seem to be OTRS permission images without a license tag.
Sfan00 IMG (talk) 20:37, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Filemover
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Page Curation newsletter
Hey Sven Manguard. This will be, if not our final newsletter, one of the final ones :). After months of churning away at this project, our final version (apart from a few tweaks and bugfixes) is now live. Changes between this and the last release include deletion tag logging, a centralised log, and fixes to things like edit summaries.
Hopefully you like what we've done with the place; suggestions for future work on it, complaints and bugs to the usual address :). We'll be holding a couple of office hours sessions, which I hope you'll all attend. Many thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 10:53, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Hot Cat discussion at VPP
Thank you for your interest in the discussion at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Proposal:_enable_HotCat_for_all_editors_by_default. Please note that I have now proposed 5 different, more nuanced versions of the original suggestion, to better gauge to what level (if any) we are willing to make Hot Cat more accessible. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:39, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
TFL
I've tried a reply, in my capacity as editor. And director. And bloke. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:11, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Toolserver and labs
Hello,
thanks for your message at my user-page. I know that Labs is already up, but in my eyes it is not a replacement for the toolserver – and as I follow the discussion never will be. Depending of the decision of WMDE, I will come back to your offer for help, cu. --DaB. (talk) 20:29, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Precious
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solidarity |
Thank you for quality articles such as Architecture of the Song Dynasty, for eliminating backlog, for your essay "The monster under the rug", and for your solidarity with a missed user, - you are an awesome Wikipedian! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:58, 29 September 2012 (UTC) |
- Thank you. Sven Manguard Wha? 19:40, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
whack
Plip!
Just a little one for your lack of presenting any actual reason to delete at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Opening of the depots. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:41, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
- Well that's what "this doesn't appear to support enough content separate and apart from the 1997 rebellion to justify an article" is. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:56, 30 September 2012 (UTC)