Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dorian Gray syndrome

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:32, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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This syndrome was first described by Brosig, Kupfer, Niemeier, and Gieler in 2000/2001,^[1] and again by the same authors in a 2006 book edited by Trüeb.^[2] The only significant coverage (in reliable sources) that I can find on the subject is in works authored or co-authored by Brosig, Gieler or Trüeb. These sources are not independent of the subject, and therefore do not contribute to notability per WP:GNG.Searching for sources is complicated by the fact that "Dorian Gray syndrome" is a fairly obvious expression (like Peter Pan syndrome, Alice in Wonderland syndrome, etc.) which has been thought up independently by different people and given a variety of different meanings. The article, however, describes a very specific phenomenon, and we need sources that discuss this phenomenon in depth. As I say, I couldn't find any reliable sources that I felt were both in-depth and independent, though it's possible that German-speaking editors may have better luck. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 20:47, 14 September 2023 (UTC) [reply] Sojourner in the earth (talk) 20:47, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Medicine and Psychiatry. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 20:47, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:37, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:07, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• I see a German-language publication at https://www.google.com/books/edition/Forever_young/6umyNwAACAAJ?hl=en and a pretty good description in https://www.google.com/books/edition/Psychosomatische_Dermatologie/RWIhBAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA50&printsec=frontcover There are a few paragraphs in https://www.google.com/books/edition/Ästhetische_und_plastische_Operationen/UjjNP2Ujb4gC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq="Dorian+Gray-Syndrom"&pg=PA3 There is one paragraph in https://www.google.com/books/edition/Enzyklop%C3%A4die_der_Eponymen_Syndrome_und/BiGQDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA74 https://www.google.com/books/edition/Hauterkrankungen/bpubEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA197 only has a sentence, but puts it in the context of seeking cosmetic treatments. The paragraph in https://www.google.com/books/edition/Wenn_das_Spiegelbild_zur_Qual_wird/6p2bEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT12 places it in the context of Body dysmorphic disorder and specifically the excessive use of lifestyle medicine to fulfill a wish to always be young. I think it's probably notable. (All of the sources are in German, and it would be easier to use them if you can read at least a little German.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:10, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks. Just to note, your second and fifth links are to books edited by Uwe Gieler, who I noted above is not an independent source. The remainder don't appear to give anything more than a basic definition. The exception is the first link, Forever Young! by Reese, which looks more promising, but I can't access it. It's marked up as a dissertation by WorldCat, so I'm not sure to what extent it can be considered a secondary source. I can view the blurb on Amazon; the author seems to be advancing the thesis that Dorian Gray Syndrome can also occur in children. We can probably assume that the work contains a decent amount of secondary information on the syndrome as described by Brosig et al., and if so then I'd be willing to consider this as one source contributing to notability, but without access to it I can't be certain. I don't believe any of your other links constitute significant independent coverage. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 05:39, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist given the recent sources found.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:20, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: Per the nom, this fail WP:GNG even with the additionally listed sources. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:50, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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