Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of NFL Draft broadcasters

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The result was keep. Missvain (talk) 22:25, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List of NFL Draft broadcasters (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

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Badly sourced (tagged since 2009) and simply an example of WP:NOTDATABASE. Any modern draft is going to have several broadcasters and analysts, including pretty much all of NFL Network and NFL guys from ESPN. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 10:35, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep - the list seems organized, appropriate, and similar in quality to the other various lists of event broadcasters. --B (talk) 14:43, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • B, if you claim other lists are "similar in quality" then they should probably be brought up for AfD too. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 01:51, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • You didn't say how it's notable though, even if it's WP:PRETTY.—Bagumba (talk) 04:45, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:NLIST. Nobody lists draft broadcasters; it's just too daft. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:48, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - There's no justifiable reason not to keep an article which meets Wikipedia guidelines and contains sufficient references. Rillington (talk) 16:23, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rillington, in what world does 4 out of 12 references being YouTube on a list that goes back to the 1980s count as sufficient? Each year should be using several (reliable) sources to cover the massive amount of people each draft apparently had between gurus, reporters, hosts, and analysts. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 00:39, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Which notability guideline does this meet? Note that an WP:INDISCRIMINATE list can be well sourced too.—Bagumba (talk) 04:48, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• keep yeah, I don't like it. But that's not a reason to delete. I think it's silly. Also not a reason. But somehow, some way, this annual event (which used to be as bad as watching paint dry) has gained much traction in the news and in popular culture. Passes WP:GNG and WP:LISTN.--Paul McDonald (talk) 01:25, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete No evidence that this meets WP:LISTN, namely: The entirety of the list does not need to be documented in sources for notability, only that the grouping or set in general has been. Sources need to talk about the grouping. It's not sufficient to WP:OR and cull the group and claim its now important.—Bagumba (talk) 04:44, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. "Just no." To put in more policy-based language, I support the comments of Dissident93 and Bagumba. Cbl62 (talk) 22:42, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep NFL draft coverage is referred to as a group by independent sources (see examples from Sports Illustrated^[1] and SB Nation^[2]). Thus it meets the guideline for WP:LISTN. The article needs a lot of work to find more reliable sources, but it shouldn't be deleted on a lack of notability. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 16:03, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Instead of deleting this... why don't we just fix it? I did a search to add some references about a week ago, and found (at least for the recent stuff) that there was 2+ sources available for each year's broadcasters (Just an example, a google search of "2020 NFL Draft broadcaters brings up: NFL.com [1], CincyJungle.com (not sure if its reliable)[2], Usatoday.com [3], Espn.com [4], ChicagoBears.com [5], Sports Illustrated [6] (just draft stations), Bleacherreport.com [7], Pro Football Newtwork [8], and more). We just need to add them to the article. Also, there has to be sources available for the info to be put into the article in the first place. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:28, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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