Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Soaring Sky! Pretty Cure episodes

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎ . consensus is spinout is needed. I'll admit this was not your usual AfD discussion. Refreshing. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 02:06, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of Soaring Sky! Pretty Cure episodes

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I'm nominating this to stop a WP:BLAR edit war. Some editors think this should be a standalone article, others think it should be a redirect to Soaring Sky! Pretty Cure. I note that the content in this article is identical to the content in Soaring Sky! Pretty Cure. Personally I think this should be a redirect, since the exact same content is already included in Soaring Sky! Pretty Cure. That is a small article and this does not need a WP:SPINOUT yet. –Novem Linguae (talk) 20:49, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television, Anime and manga, and Lists. –Novem Linguae (talk) 20:49, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep I barely see any actual discussion on either this or the main show's talk pages. Deletion is not being asked for and not even close to consideration here (the most expected decision will be redirect in a normal AfD discussion), and this is the wrong forum for what seems to be a clear editor dispute. Take it back to the talk pages and actually discuss things. Nate • (chatter) 02:53, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
he never really reads Talk pages and he has a lot of edit wars on his talk page Ckng9000 (talk) 01:30, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BLAR mentions AFD as a legitimate forum for disputes over blanking and redirecting. –Novem Linguae (talk) 02:12, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, after any attempt to come to consensus on the talk page has been completely exhausted. As there's zilch on either and we don't consider edit comments an acceptable substitute, this nomination is horrendously premature. I stand by my rationale; discuss and use talk pages. Nate • (chatter) 22:15, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked for socking. –Novem Linguae (talk) 21:39, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I was the one who created many episode list for many Pretty Cure episodes in a new article that comes from main article in my page: User:Ckng9000#Articles Created Ckng9000 (talk) 05:12, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

and he comes and redirect my episode list says not notable even though there is notability warning already I have included notability warning when I created each new episode list for different Pretty Cure shows because I know someone is going to fix it later BaldiBasicsFan Ckng9000 (talk) 05:20, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirected once again. Ckng9000 continues to split articles of shows without consensus and this behavior needs to stop. Heck, they created a sockpuppet even if their original account isn’t banned, and recently, I suspected this user having another sockpuppet under an IP account. At this point, a WP:SO should be applied on this user if the IP is confirmed to be a sock. BaldiBasicsFan (talk) 04:15, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked for socking. –Novem Linguae (talk) 21:39, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I and other users have created WP:SPINOUT even though Pretty Cure shows were running live and before they aired Ckng9000 (talk) 01:22, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

look at this one from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Hug!_Pretty_Cure_episodes&oldid=823882581 episode list created at air date February 4, 2018 never redirected was there when the anime was airing. Ckng9000 (talk) 05:48, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I also created one for healin' good procure episode list when it first aired. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Healin%27_Good_Pretty_Cure_episodes&oldid=938818625 Ckng9000 (talk) 06:01, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

i also created this episode list of Delicious Party Pretty Cure in March 3, 2022 with only 5 episodes showing and never got redirected. Here is the link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Delicious_Party_Pretty_Cure_episodes&oldid=1075017726 Ckng9000 (talk) 06:16, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect There is no policy-based reason to delete, but based on the format I believe these articles about Pretty Cure anime installations should be treated akin to television seasons in the Western world, where the episodes are listed in the main article. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 02:23, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked for socking. –Novem Linguae (talk) 21:39, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Some Japanese anime shows have episode list even though its a small article like this one List of Lost Song episodes Ckng9000 (talk) 02:55, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
also this episode list List of The Misfit of Demon King Academy episodes an episode list that even splits up into two articles Ckng9000 (talk) 05:27, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
that is still going and being delayed by Covid Ckng9000 (talk) 05:31, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Granted, this split was done a bit too early, and the contents needs to be fleshed out a bit more, but what's the point of shoving the episode list back into the main article again if it's going to being spun out either way in a matter of weeks? The main problem is more: deciding and reaching consensus when the right time is (in terms of season progression and episode list size) to split off an episode list. See also: WP:SIZERULE which might be a better rule of thumb, also the anime MoS. Any other of the 19 prior seasons also have separate 'List of xyz Pretty Cure' episodes' lists, splitting off its episode lists was more of a given, eventually. Rctgamer3 (talk) 13:43, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked for socking. –Novem Linguae (talk) 21:39, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of Pretty Cure shows had episode split during their air time Ckng9000 (talk) 14:54, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I checked word count for most Pretty Cure articles and they range from 2,700 - 5,100 word count so why did they split them in the first place. A lot of Japanese anime have less than 15000 words from Wikipedia:SIZERULE and they do create episode split Ckng9000 (talk) 15:16, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 08:26, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per nom. Article fails LISTN and serves no CLN/AOAL purpose. OTHERSTUFFEXIST is not a reason to create or keep an article that does not meet notability guidelines. // Timothy :: talk 06:30, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked for socking. –Novem Linguae (talk) 20:55, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
this one has notability warning List of Delicious Party Pretty Cure episodes and has never been redirected to main page. 73.72.212.187 (talk) 20:11, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Let's have a sock free week
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 16:57, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep While technically the list is currently short enough to merge back in right now, this is an long airing series so it'll have to be split out pretty quickly anyways. Better to save valuable editor time to keep it split even if its early. Jumpytoo Talk 20:07, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep A valid spinoff article. Dream Focus 16:53, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as there is no way another 46 episode installment is going to fit in the main article. To give an example... Survivor: Nicaragua has 15 episodes (although the long plot summaries there would probably make up for like 25 Pretty Cure! episodes). It still would be a mess... - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 17:14, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.