Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Masahiko Tanaka

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Sandstein 12:02, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Masahiko Tanaka[edit]

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Article is completely unsourced, with only ANN and IMDB as external links. No news coverage, nor are there any strong, reliable sources. I do not see the subject as notable in any possible way. Sk8erPrince (talk) 01:20, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:52, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:52, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 16:23, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:02, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:02, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment ANN roles review: 1) Fumihiko Makabe in Fafner - main character's father [1][2] 2) Gauron in Full Metal Panic - primary antagonist in the first season 3) Ryo Mashiba in Hajime no Ippo - notable character in series although anime mentions him as episodic. 3) Kyoichi Sudou in Initial D - primary antagonist in the second season and the feature film 4) Ryunosuke Umemiya in Shaman King - supporting but recurring 5) Rasputin in Drifters - main cast [3]

Mostly supporting roles but recurring and regular, especially in notable titles: Fafner, Full Metal Panic, Initial D, and Shaman King. No writeup on JA wikipedia. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:16, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Would you classify any of them as MAIN supporting? --Sk8erPrince (talk) 15:28, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I don't recognize any of the roles here so I cant really help on this one but will say that there are no sources on both wikis to indicate enough notability. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:18, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Angus. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:06, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep per User:AngusWOOF, passes WP:NACTOR due to him having voiced multiple major characters. Satellizer el Bridget ^(Talk) 07:56, 8 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

They're just supporting characters, though... and none of them really stand out; there isn't a single role that the subject is clearly known for. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 08:11, 8 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 19:52, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 23:02, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Leaning to keep per AngusWOOF's analysis, multiple significant roles (noting that significant does not necessarily means main), I would also add Rasputin in Drifters [4], enough to pass NACTOR criteria. Cavarrone 17:16, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Grigori Rasputin is NOT part of the main cast. He's a supporting character. Some of the subject's roles are antagonists/main supporting roles, but NONE of them stand out in particular. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 02:50, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the subject's roles are antagonists/main supporting roles = SIGNIFICANT roles. Supporting characters are often significant, both in terms of importance and playing time, and NACTOR's wording requires roles to be significant, not just main. Such a wording was discussed various times, and it was every time confirmed as to include personalities who have established careers as supporting/character actors, besides main roles. If you complain about such a wording, the proper place to discuss it is the SNG's talk page, not here. Tanaka may not have had any main role, but was in the regular or semi-regular cast in significant roles in at least a dozen (probably more) of very important anime series. Article is currently just a stub, but the subject is apparently notable in his field. Cavarrone 07:07, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You call that notable? Really now? First, I'll debunk your claim about the subject having voiced in at least 12 titles as the main supporting character. Angus was able to count 3-4 so far. Also view these AFDs:

AFD 1

AFD 2

AFD 3

As you can see, subjects could have 2-3 main roles and some (main) supporting roles, but if they have not received significant news coverage, their article is still grounds for deletion. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 15:35, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unimpressive exemples and you have debunked nothing, arguing that Rie Nakagawa (I have no idea who he is) is not notable has nothing to do with Masahiko Tanaka being notable or not, see WP:OTHERSTUFF. Tanaka is the only one we are actually discussing and he actually passes NACTOR requirements by a reasonable margin. If you disagree with that, go to WP:NACTOR talk page, ask to change the word "significant" with "main", get consensus, and then you'll have my vote for deletion. Otherwise you are supposed to respect others' votes as long as they are based on actual notability criteria, even if you disagree with them. Cavarrone 17:07, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.