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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of Gundam video games. (non-admin closure) –Davey2010Talk 00:06, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Shin Kidō Senki Gundam Wing: Endless Duel[edit]

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Contested prod. No reason was given by the contesting editor, so I'll just copy and paste the rationale used in the prod: Fails to meet WP:Notability (games). Article subject was never released in English-speaking countries. Article has no references. Martin IIIa (talk) 17:31, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: Even though it's just one of a bajillion anime tie-in games, it was likely reviewed by the magazines back in 96, and has seen a number of independent reviews from staff writers in the last couple of years. See [1][2][3]. I hate digging up game reviews like this, because there are such blurry lines between reviews, PR, routine cataloging, and personal blogs in this field. I would trust Nintendo Life and Screwattack; SomethingAwful is a gag review, but from a notable satire source. Are these good with you? Jergling (talk) 18:16, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
NL could work but the others won't. See what makes a reliable source reliable at WP:VG/RS. czar 19:22, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. --Calathan (talk) 21:20, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to List of Gundam video games - The references included above only provide one reliable secondary source in somethingawful.com, sorry but this article is going to need more than that. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:37, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it looks like the other two were just blogs masquerading as articles on Nintendo Life and ScrewAttack. Curses! Foiled by the forces I swore to banish from Wikipedia! BLOOOOOGSPAAAAAAAAM!!! -Jergling (talk) 22:56, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 05:38, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 05:38, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment' Again, The lack of English language release is not a valid deletion rationale and this may her been reviewed in Animerica (or other magazines) as an import title.I'll try and check the relevant issues. SephyTheThird (talk) 10:06, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The deletion rationale was that it lacked sources and didn't meet any subject-specific notability guidelines. Not sure how you can possibly read it as being because there was no English-language release. Surely you know that Martin knows that too, as you've both been around. czar 19:21, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I read it as such because that is how it came off. After all, it is between the points about notability and sources. It was also in the text for the prod, so I don't think I'm assuming something without cause. It's not a criticism of the nomination or nominator (who I'm not familiar with) but it is something to avoid if only to prevent possible misunderstandings. SephyTheThird (talk) 22:11, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm suggesting that you take a more generous read in the future (assume good faith) as there is plenty of rationale there for anyone looking for it. I read that sole sentence clearly as an explanation for why few English-language sources exist, not as a deletion rationale. czar 17:46, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to List of Gundam video games as a valid search term, as long as the game exists. (Try to redirect before coming to AfD.) No print reviews listed at MobyGames → very unlikely that print sourcing/reviews exist, especially in English. czar 19:21, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect per above. If enough reliable sources can be found in the future, it can be recreated. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:48, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect I don't have access to the issues of Animerica I was going to check so redirecting at this time seems the best outcome.SephyTheThird (talk) 04:45, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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