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Old Turkic Wikipedia

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Proposal summary
  • Language details: Old Turkic (Köktürkçe, otk [invented])
  • Editing community: Yaroslav Zolotaryov (P)
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  • Number of speakers: No longer spoken natively. It has some modern learners.
  • Locations spoken: Altay, Siberia and Central Asia, 8-13 AC
  • Related languages: Tatar, Uyghur, Chulym, Kazakh

Notes/Comments/Questions

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Test wiki opened: http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Test-WP/yen --Yaroslav Zolotaryov 10:06, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comments: We have vocabulary of 20 000 and some enthusiasts of this, why not begin? This is language of old siberian turk culture and Yenesey Caganate --Yaroslav Zolotaryov 03:13, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support

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I Cevair Zufer Muslim Turk from western Balkan born and living in Sweden, supports the idea but we shouldn't call it
old turkish as the turkish language and history are much older. cevair@netatonce.net
  1. The official alphabet should real orkhon runiform also for current working may be Latin alphabet based on Turkish one. For transliteration scripts see kk:
  2. Native name should be Köktürkçe (it is very native name for ethnos and language) not Eski Türkçe thıs one means 'deprecated', sounds silly. English name should be Gokturk (is Latin as Old Italian? is Classic Arabic Old Iraqian? is Sanskrit Old Hindi?)
  3. Domain and language code preferably should be kok (this one currently is empty) tr-kok otk
  4. 'Locations spoken= Siberia and Central Asia, 8-13 AC' - it is wrong. Before disfalling 1st Turk Kaganate location is modern Northern China, Mongolia, East Turkistan, Altay and Turkistan. After 2nd Turk Kaganate control territoris from Hingan to Krimea, from Samarcand to Siberia. And time should be 5 century BC (Issyk inscriptions) - 8 century AD (dissolve turk community)
  5. 'Closely related languages, if any: Tatar, Uigur, Chulym'. Why only Tatar, Uigur, Chulym? It very closely to all turkic languages! --AlefZet 08:08, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Support -- I strongly support this language.
  2. Support Kurdbuddha (talk) 10:34, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Conditional support

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**Support --(Conditional support) The name "Eski/old" is not indicative for something including language. How old? Remember ; recent studies shows that Etruscan , Summerian ,assyrian and also some native American's languages are (most possibly) Turkish originated languages. (If so,) how we can call appr.20,000 years old languages if we named a a language as "Eski/Old" Turkish. I offer; lets make further studies on Turkish Language and its classification firstly.( I now that this work not so easy under the pressure of cultural imperialism on Turkish languages ). Regards and good luck to all. --Mustafa Akalp 15:59, 19 September 2006 (UTC)Mustafa Akalp 09:58, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

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Neutral

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