Talk:Q383541

Matěj_Suchánek can you explain Eurohunter why your bot keeps removing the label and description for simplewiki? Mbch331 (talk) 11:08, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The language code is inappropriate. It's been defined in no ISO 639-* standard, it's just a Wikimedia invention. There's a glitch that allows it to get inserted although it's invalid. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 11:47, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WD has Notability requirements and not all items linked to Basshunter (Q383541) seems to meet them. @Eurohunter: You have been editing on this subject extensibly for years, so I'm addressing you specifically for information. I'm not going to ask what's driving this particular interest, but I would like you to consider guidelines. We can fix these mistakes, but it would not help if you continue to create similar items further on.

• Q66467301 doesn't need an item, this can be added directly to the subject and does not require statement is subject of (P805) as far as I see.

• Even if you contribute to Basshunter (Q383541) this object doesn't need to be added as example everywhere. The example adds very little to the existing one.
  • It don't need to be and really isn't. Eurohunter (talk) 22:12, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Right, not everywhere, but there sure are plenty of examples mentioning this item. Many are different ID-properties where you actually used Basshunter as the initial example, but why did you add the others? Adding examples is helpful, but I think better to add explaining examples, rather than to just add your favorite example. On a separate note I don't see how P7158 is relevant, Basshunter isn't known as "author" and the list seems to be just another discography. Is merlin.pl really an "authority" for identification or just another aggregator? Jagulin (talk) 08:47, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Jagulin: Anyway I think this page became good example because it has many content which would helpfull in some cases. Property were named incorrectly. I have changed it. Eurohunter (talk) 12:28, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Most weddings don't have separate items, but Q66467266 can be ok from notability rules.
• Q59437791 can be seen as a separate concept, but usually the information is part of the main item instead. As far as I can see, the only relevant part here is "bass + hunter" separation and I guess it could be done as well in the main item.
• Q51759069 doesn't seem to be notable in himself, and a sibling is not exactly crucial for the construction of an item so this would not be notable. A facebook mention is also not usually up to wikipedia reference standards.
  • In this case Facebook is enough source (official profile, "non-controversial" fact). Eurohunter (talk) 22:06, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • That may be, but you still didn't clarify why relevant and notable. Jagulin (talk) 08:47, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • Why I schould? Atleast basic information about family members is avaiable in many Wikipedia articles. Eurohunter (talk) 12:29, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Basshunter discography (Q810519) should be fine. Splitting into Basshunter's albums in chronological order (Q61033034) can be argued as a structural neccessity, but separating further into Basshunter studio albums discography (Q61033487) seems redundant: LOL <(^^,)> (Q664873) itself identifies as as studio album. Use qualifiers if needed.
• Notable work, not a list of everything - you have the Discography for that. Add reference to clarify notability.
  • This qualifier is just messy and I would eventually remove it. Eurohunter (talk) 22:12, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Image is repeated everywhere. At least remove it where it raises a warning, e.g. Q62098823#P18
  • There is no problem with image but with warning. Eurohunter (talk) 22:08, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Can you point to any discussion where there is an agreement on that? Jagulin (talk) 08:47, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • It's the same case like discography or list of songs. Eurohunter (talk) 12:28, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Why so many lists? Q66112460 doesn't exist as a list on Wikipedia so should not be needed. Probably merge it with list of awards and nominations received by Basshunter (Q63384701) and review which are really relevant.

Anything I misunderstood about these items and their notability? -- Jagulin (talk) 06:45, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Jagulin: They are in progress. I have plans to add some information there. Eurohunter (talk) 17:59, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Eurohunter: Thanks for the response. What would be your rough time plan to fix the problems? You didn't seem to argue against most of my statements so I will see if I can help clear out the fluff. We should also strive for consensus, rather than "I do things my way". Jagulin (talk) 08:47, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I hope to add more content in next two weeks. It's hard to me to make any consensus beause I have no final idea yet what will be exactly done there. Eurohunter (talk) 12:28, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]