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It's not just WP that puts "Mayor" in lower case when preceded by a modifier: go to google.com and search for site:thetimes.com "former mayor of london", or theguardian.com, which provides similar results. Happy editing! Chris the speller ^yack 14:20, 3 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Chris the speller I still think it looks better with "M", but even my favourite style guide uses "m" so it's not a hill I'm bothered about fighting on! We are gloriously inconsistent, even when its not preceded by a modifier - search Wikipedia on "mayor London" to see. PamD 15:58, 3 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for helping me with your suggestions to make my articles better. Strawberries are especially sweet in late May/June and again at this time of year. Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 09:57, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you, @Allthemilescombined1: we enjoyed some just yesterday, though the UK-grown season is coming to an end! Happy to help - and Patti Varol was an interesting read. PamD 10:06, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Hi, if you get a chance, could you look at what I wrote on my User Page and tell me if it makes sense, needs more explanation, or is just too corny and needs a serious rewrite? Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 01:48, 20 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

It's an interesting read, but if you're going to list your favourite fun edits, it might be better to link to the "diff" where you made the edit - eg "Added that Akwafina's stage name refers to her self-perception as 'awkwardly fine'."

I'm really glad, myself, that I've kept a log right from the start of all the articles I've created and why - as you can see, it varies from "for WiR editathon..." through "to resolve a red link in ...", to "heard about it on radio, seems notable". Without that list I sometimes wouldn't have a clue why I started a stub 15 years ago for some topic. It needn't be on my user page, but I've always kept it there.

Happy Editing! PamD 20:34, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you! Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 22:15, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

A tag has been placed on Category:Trinidad and Tobago writers by century indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:12, 20 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello @PamDhow are you? I remembered you helped me with my first published page :-) Thank you.

You also said you made short decent stubs of topics and I wondered if there was a video tutorial on how to do this? I get come across lots of useful topics during my writing work but I don't have the time to do full pages.

It is really frustrating! The Nookster (talk) 09:31, 22 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hallo again @The Nookster. I can't think of any particular tutorial (there may be good stuff out there but I'm not familiar with it all), but a few key points, apart from the stuff I said before, would be:

• Check thoroughly that there isn't already an article on the topic. Check variant names you find in any sources. Even if you're going to start the article in draft, act as if you're going to start it in mainspace and look to see whether any message pops up about it being deleted in the past - sometimes it'll be because AfD decided it wasn't notable, but other times because the person who started it was then blocked as a sockpuppet, or because it was entirely Copyright theft, leaving it free to be re-created. It can be useful to follow the "What links here" link too, to see if it's been discussed anywhere, or linked from other articles.
• If there is already an article at the title you want to use, work out how to disambiguate the new one, by adding "(writer)" or whatever.
• Be sure that the topic satisfies WP:Notability. Some categories of topics are more-or-less automatically notable, like members of a national parliament etc (SEE WP:NPOL) or legally-recognised populated places; there are special rules for academics at WP:NPROF; and so on.
• Be sure you have at least 2, preferably 3, Reliable independent published sources. These don't have to be online, eg if you have a book in front of you or a newspaper clipping which shows the newspaper, date and page as well as the article title, but online sources are popular as they can be more easily verified.
• If you meet the criteria, use The Wikipedia Library for access to all sorts of wonderful online sources.
• Even just for a stub, remember to make clear in the first sentence why we should be interested in the topic: "X (dates) is a Y-ish Z" and their main claim to notability.
• Actually, something you might find helpful is the template I use, at User:PamD/sandbox#Bio stub starter - I use it to remind myself of the basic infrastructure. "In use" stays for the duration of the editing session, and "Under construction" for up to a week if still working on it. Just copy and paste that outline, and it'll be a start.
• And write. Use surname only, after the lead; source everything; tell us why she/he or it is notable. Remember it's an international encyclopedia, so main placenames need initially to specify "England", and terms like "BBC" aren't necessarily obvious to the reader.
• If the article would benefit from an infobox, find a good article on the same sort of topic and see which of the umpteen "Infobox" templates has been used there, then follow.
• Edit carefully, check that all the links go where you expect them to (and not to a disambiguation page, or a footballer where you're expecting a physicist, or whatever), read through for typos, check that punctuation is in front of references, that you haven't used "curly" quotes/apostrophes, etc
• And create a basic talk page with a couple of relevant WikiProject banners, including the appropriate Women in Red one (if nothing specific, then WIR|293 for "#1day1woman".
• Make incoming redirects from all plausible versions of the name (married / middle / versions found in sources), to help readers and to help prevent someone else from creating a duplicate. If at this point you find a duplicate, and it's definitely the same person, then stop. Add your new content, if any, to that article. If you're convinced it's at the wrong title, then suggest a move using the Request Move process. Don't copy and paste anyone else's work to a new title. The first-created article takes precedence, even if it's poorly-written and at the wrong title.
• If your title has a disambiguation, like "(writer)", then be sure that it is listed at the basic title, whether this is by adding or expanding a hatnote, adding an entry on a talk page, or if need be creating a new disambiguation page. By whatever means, you need to make sure that the reader looking for the topic will be able to find it!

Well, I hope some of that lot helps - rather random jottings while listening to the Sunday omnibus of The Archers! Happy Editing! PamD 11:06, 22 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Looking at your user page : I see you're a professional "content creator", so you need to be familiar with Wikipedia's rules about WP:COI and WP:PAID, if you're considering editing for pay.

I see also that you've marked a lot of contributions as "minor", although sometimes they include adding new text as here. Some editors get very upset about that: minor is supposed to be only very, very, minor: slight formatting changes, very obvious typo fix, etc. See Help:Minor for more info. I don't bother marking anything as "minor", myself. PamD 11:16, 22 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello again @PamD yes I know about the paid for content ethics and agree whole-heartedly with them. I've been a sporadic Wikipedian! I love the project so much :-) It makes me really happy being an editor on here too. A real delight to see some little fact appear and help in my own small way to the knowledge bank. I hope to be able to do more when I'm old and stuck in front of the fire! Hope The Archers was good! I'm more of a desert island discs person at the moment. Thanks for the note on minor contributions. Will never mark anything as a minor edit from now... The Nookster (talk) 11:27, 22 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi @PamD thanks for all this. Hopefully I will be able to contribute a bit more in smaller chunks :-) The Nookster (talk) 11:22, 22 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

PS Just having a good look at this and the bio stub starter is really useful, thanks @PamD The Nookster (talk) 18:12, 24 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for showing me how to add revision links to my user page! That was fun. Do I need to secure my user page from vandalism? Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 23:01, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply