Talk:Goran Bregović
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[edit]Some of this article seems hopelessly POV, particularly the Lincoln Center thing. Tracker/TTV (myTalk|myWork|myInbox) 19:52, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
- How about now? --Dijxtra 20:42, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
- Seems fine to me now, I'll remove the POV tag, please re add if you wish. // Laughing Man 03:12, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- It still seems POV in some places. Which I am loathe to point out since Goran Bregović is the best. The opening paragraph for example contains a lot on how amazing his band is, which seems a bit excessive. I mean, again, I am loathe to say that since were it not for POV rules I would be inclined to write something like this for his opening paragraph:
- Seems fine to me now, I'll remove the POV tag, please re add if you wish. // Laughing Man 03:12, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Goran Bregović (Serbian Cyrillic: Горан Брего��ић) (born March 22, 1950) is an amazing musician from Bosnia and Herzegovina and one of the most recognizable modern composers of the Balkans. He declares himself as a Yugoslav, because even though those fascist Croats are such fascist-ass fascists, he doesn't hold a grudge. What a beautiful man. Also, because of his pan-Yugoslav views, he should be the ONLY president of Bosnia and Herzegovina, replacing the ethnic system they have now. In fact, they should reunite Yugoslavia and have him as the only president. It would be a utopia.
Composer, guitarist and genius Goran Bregović has been a household name in the Balkans for over three decades. Born in Sarajevo (the greatest city in the Balkans, if just for his being born there), Bosnia and Herzegovina (then Yugoslavia), Bregović has composed for such varied artists as Iggy Pop and Cesaria Evora. He earned his fame wielding a guitar with his rock band Bijelo Dugme, a group that rose to stardom and set the groundwork for the Yugoslav rock scene. Known internationally for his scores for Emir Kusturica’s films (Time of the Gypsies, Arizona Dream, Underground), Bregović commands an ensemble that matches his larger-than-life persona. A rowdy brass band, bagpipes, a string ensemble, a tuxedo-clad all-male choir from Belgrade, and traditional Bulgarian and Roma singers make up his dynamic 40-piece band and orchestra. Bregović’s compositions, extending Balkan musical inspirations to innovative extremes, draw upon European classicism and Balkan rhythms, evoking rock’s searing power as well as the repose of sacred sounds–all fueled by the insistent drive of brass.[1] He also commands a gigantic penis.
Screw President of a re-united Yugoslavia, he should be EMPEROR OF EUROPE. Dsmccohen 23:14, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
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Sources for claim about folk music
[edit]I love this guy's music. I also understand that as he was born in Bosnia with a Croat father and a Serb mother, and calls himself a Yugoslav, he may politically be a force for good. But, I have heard SO MANY TIMES now that he has taken folk tunes and traditional Roma (i.e. "Gypsy") tunes and claimed them to be his own compositions. This [would, if true, be] theft [removed Uncle G (talk) 14:20, 21 July 2010 (UTC)] and it is annoying me that it is not challenged officially. I have removed the comment I made on his main Wikipedia page: 'However, it is widely considered that many of his "compositions" are folk tunes that he has merely arranged and passed off as his own'. I apologise for not reading or adhering to Wikipedia rules: reliable sources are needed for such a claim, according to the biography of living persons policy. But, if we substantiate the allegations of theft, it would show respect to the fantastic 'indigenous' music of the Croats, Serbs, Roma, etc etc, which these cultures deserve to be respected for. Can anybody provide any references? (Unfortunately, I do not have his CDs with me these days to check which obvious folk tunes he claims to be his own compositions.) Bregovic will still be a legend as an arranger, and he deserves to be so. Frankieparley 07:56, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- --[Pirtskhalava] ფირცხალავა (talk) 12:40, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
- So what's your source? Whence did you hear this "so many times"? How reliable were the people that you heard it from? Had they checked their facts? Are they identifiable to the world at large? Do they have known good reputations in the public arena for fact checking? Had they had their statements subjected to peer review and editorial oversight? Had they had them properly published and recorded as part of the corpus of human knowledge?
"Well my friend told me." is inadequate sourcing (even outside of Wikipedia). "Well my friend who is a professor of folk music at (Named University) told me privately; but has never actually properly published that statement." is inadequate sourcing, too. Uncle G (talk) 14:20, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
- Just above, I have added a georgian traditional folk song (existing for hundreds of years) and a song that Bregovic has 'composed' - make your own judgement by listening to it. The georgian song is called 'Tsintskaro' - you just need to click on the georgian text and you will be linked with youtube. --[Pirtskhalava] ფირცხალავა (talk) 20:42, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
- Any opinion we might hold is WP:OR and not relevant. Such things need to be reputable sourced by third parties --Errant Tmorton166(Talk) 20:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Bosnian parents?
[edit]I changed Bosnian parents to Croatian father and Serbian mother. He is not Bosnian, neigher it exits, he is Yugoslav with Cro-Serb roots. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.131.75.156 (talk) 23:12, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
- Bosnians are not only Muslims. Bosnians are also bosnian Serbs and Croats. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.112.251.67 (talk) 12:44, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Even though he is "Bosnian", it's more accurate to say "Croatian Father, Serbian Mother" because he was born in Yugoslavia and currently lives in Serbia and France. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.219.209.51 (talk) 11:58, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
- This is false. In this context you are referring to nationality, or country of origin, not ethnicity. Your updates are misleading and irrelevant. 24.30.75.102 (talk) 23:34, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
From the Film Academy
[edit]Hello: I am a student of Beijing Film Academy, in particular, like your soundtrack. Want to use your soundtrack in the job, no commercial use, we can communicate under it? Special thanks。
Hubo
Mail:3897144@qq.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:DA8:238:20E4:2D6D:5E00:2AEA:21A (talk) 06:58, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
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I'm removing the Serbian Cyrllic spelling of his name from the first line of the article
[edit]Having it in the first line implies that he is Serbian even if it doesn't explicitly say so, especially because the rest of the line reads "from Bosnia and Herzegovina". He stated he does not consider himself to be Serbian, or not wholly so, so I want the Serbian cyrillic removed, changed to simply "cyrillic", or to add something like "Croatian pronunciation" in the line as well, so that is it more obvious what his ethnicity is. Basically, the way it was written implies that he is only Serb, which is not accurate.
Just as an example of why I removed the Serbian Cyrillic: Imagine the line read like this "Goran Bregovic (Croatian pronunciation -----, born ---) is a recording artist from Bosnia and Herzegovina..." By having only "Croatian pronunciation" in the first line implies that he speaks only Croatian or that he considers himself a Croat. It annoys me that whoever edited the page only wrote "Serbian Cyrillic" but not "Serbo-Croatian pronunciation" or something similar to that.
Consistency
[edit]Hi @Sadko: Are you or Goran Bregovic jewish by any chance? Because im at a loss to explain your recent edit. SerVasi (talk) 01:18, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- How on Earth did you come to that conclusion and how is that related to the edits? Questioning use of Cyrillic is one thing but I don’t get any of the rest of your comment. OyMosby (talk) 01:51, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi king @Sadko: is this another example of me not listening and being open to discussion? SerVasi (talk) 02:10, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
@Sadko: soo no contest to my point king? SerVasi (talk) 23:39, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hello, what is your question? Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 18:26, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
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