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Discussion at Talk:Tirumala Venkateswara Temple
[edit] You are invited to join the discussion at [[Talk:Tirumala Venkateswara Temple]]. Pavan 17:32, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Please participate in the RFC discussion of whether Thondaiman has built the Tirumala Temple. Pavan 17:32, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
History Section
[edit]We need to re-write this section. It sounds devotional and honestly is pretty poorly written. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.177.21.97 (talk) 17:45, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
I am deeply saddened by the fact that there is an offensive and obscene gensture of a 'middle finger' throughout the page (at least at two different parts). I request you to please remove it immediately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.41.181.100 (talk) 10:58, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
Could these articles be merged? I actually don't see a good reason to keep them seperate. I am happy to be corrected though. regards --Merbabu 05:51, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Puja pandal
[edit]Puja pandals are not quite temples. Temples are called mandir(pronunced mondir) in Bengali. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.193.137.161 (talk) 05:34, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Puja Pandals are not temples but temporary structures erected for worship during certain festivals. 27th november 2008 """" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Asuribharath (talk • contribs) 23:56, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
'Mandir'
[edit]Would it make more sense to call the article 'Mandir', as oppose to 'Hindu Temple'? Just wondering, seeing as you have Churches, Synogogues, Mosques (as oppose to 'Christian/Jewish/Muslim Temple') amongst many other faiths who keep to their official terms (another example: Sikhs have Gurdwaras). Wouldn't it be better to have 'Hindu Temple' just redirect to 'Mandir'? As I said, just wondering. Even though I'm for this change - I'm not that fussed, but feel free to lay your thoughts down... -- Harish - 20:57, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- That would not be entirely fair because only a few Indian languages use "Mandir". The original Sanskrit is "Mandira", and the article lists terms in several other languages commonly used by Hindus. Why give undue prominence to Hindi? --Kannan91 (talk) 18:01, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- You make a fair point. Well what about just naming it "Mandira" then? it's the official term - any Hindu would understand, any non-Hindu would learn (particularly with thanks to the re-directs). Sure, "Hindu temple" is common term (in the West), but so is calling a vacuum cleaner a "hoover". People may call it a hoover, but for encyclopaedic reasons the article is termed a vacuum cleaner. Do ya know what I mean? -- Harish - 18:29, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think the term "Mandira" is used at all in South India, but as you said, people will easily be able to understand thanks to the redirects, so go ahead and move it if you want.--Kannan91 (talk) 17:46, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hmmm, I didn't think about that. I think I'll wait for more views in that case. Thanks for your feedback, y0. -- Harish - 18:09, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
What is it called in South India if it's not called a "mandir"? --Hnsampat (talk) 04:09, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Mandir is a hindi term . In south India , the term used is Koil in tamil , Devasthana in Kannada , Devasthanam in Telugu etc . In an english encyclopedia , it is better to use the term "temple". 27th Nov 2008 """"
- In Telugu and Malayalam, Temple is also called Mandiram. In Kannada Telmple is also called Mandira along with other names. Very dubious claims Nagarjuna198 (talk) 06:09, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
"Case study"
[edit]I've completely removed the Case Study paragraph. I find it extremely biased and it's completely unsourced. This was so POV that it's almost painful. A few quotes:
- "The rights of individual denominations to conduct the worship as per their denominational traditions, by a priest of their denomination, which is a fundamental religious right ,is being taken away by the present Tamilnadu Government, on the pretext of social equality . Temple trusts and committees , especially the richer temples , are packed with politicians of the ruling party and their friends , who often have no real understanding , loyalty or devotion to the denominational traditions of the temple they are supposed to be administering."
- "The ruling political parties wish to create a cadre of government employees as temple priests who will be transferable at whim and who will follow a state stipulated simplified code of worship in tamil."
- "While all Hindus are free to enter all temples, the management of temples should rest not with politicians, but with committees of members, and independent commissions of eminent non political citizens, of appropriate denomination, who have the requisite faith"
- "If women are also trained to be priests in Hindu temples, will the government then compel the catholic church and Islamic mosques also to do so? Therefore, it is best left to individual denominations to run their own trusts transparently and reform at their own pace. The State should not be administering religion."
Etcetera, etcetera. An encyclopedia should not make political (or religious) statements.... Channel ® 00:42, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
While the statements made in the case study may be intrepreted as political opinion , they are all factually correct, and are verifiable if one takes the trouble to do the research . The information was useful for anyone who was seriously researching temple administration currently in south India . 27th Nov 2008 """" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Asuribharath (talk • contribs) 23:53, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Article used in Wikibook: Hinduism
[edit]I've taken this article and adapted it for the Wikibook on Hinduism under the Indian religion heading. If you are an editor of this article, please feel free to go to Wikibooks and add whatever you wish to the book on Hinduism.
Thanks --Sluffs (talk) 20:59, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Shiv Temple - New Zealand
[edit]A Shiv Mandir has been contructed in Manurewa, Auckland. The Temple has been constructed as per the religious scriptures. It was built under the guidance of Acharya Maha Mandleshwar Swami 108 Shivendra Puriji Maharaj. This is the only dedicated Lord Shiv Temple in New Zealand. This was opened on 29 May 2004.
The Temple has a full time priest from India. All major religious programmes are conducted in this Temple. The Temple is a registered charitable Trust. It is incorporated as Sanatan Shivarchan Trust. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.154.19.85 (talk) 03:07, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Lead image
[edit]The lead image should be of a temple with pan-Indian importance. The Brihadeshwara temple is such a temple and image has been on the page for months. The Bangalore temple image was inserted without discussion. The temple is of local importance, but its fame is not pan-Indian and its size, grandeur, architectural quality is lower compared to temple complexes like Brihadeshwara (UNESCO site). --Redtigerxyz Talk 05:22, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
it would be better off with an image of some temple such as the amarnath, baidyanath or dakshineswar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apoorvashutosh (talk • contribs) 08:43, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Hindu temple floorplans
[edit]I think there is a need to explain about the floorplans in Hindu temples. Komitsuki (talk) 06:55, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
SOUTH INDIAN TEMPLES +KERALA TEMPLES
[edit]The page List of Hindu temples in Kerala simply starts without a proper description on kerala temples ,its tantric differences and architructural specialities.Either in this page or we need to create one for this.Also many temples are poorely described.All people interested in Temple history and Indian mythology may cordiante to improve the same. Shankarr1977 (talk) 17:58, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Deleting image gallery
[edit]Hi, the stated reason is Wikipedia:IG#Image_galleries for [| this edit]. The section clearly states that Wikipedia is not an image repository i.e. Wikipedia:NOTREPOSITORY#REPOSITORY - i.e. not 'Mere collections of photographs or media files with no text to go with the articles. If you are interested in presenting a picture, please provide an encyclopedic context'.
The context is provided, each image is is suitably captioned to explain their relevance both to the article subject and to the theme of the gallery, and the gallery is appropriately titled. Such indiscreet deletion of pictures therefore is meaningless. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 09:20, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
- The gallery was huge and looked more like "a tool to shoehorn images into an article, and a gallery consisting of an indiscriminate collection of images of the article subject". That gallery if retained opens a pandora's box: if this great temple is included, why that great temple's image is not included? arguments crop up. It is better to link the wiki commons' gallery. --Redtigerxyz Talk 19:13, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
- The images are not indiscriminate as relevant information is provided.
- There are image galleries otherwise too, like here.
- Let me know how to make a commons gallery please.
- Anyways it should not matter on the internet how many thumb images are present at the end of the article, or whether it would open a pandora's box! ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 20:21, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
- Agree with Redtigerxyz. And I note the gallery was added around the same time of similar removal discussion at Hindu temple architecture. Certainly not in line with images policy - galleries are discouraged on wikipedia. The article would never earn feature article with such dump.--Merbabu (talk) 22:38, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Proposal: I suggest having separate galleries of not more than 4/5 images for each of the sections and remove all other images from the section. Let's discuss the images here first, arrive at a consensus and add them later in the article. I also a revisit to the structure of the article. It seems some regions are not discussed in the article, so I suggest a following reorganization of the article.
- North Indian temples
- South Indian temples (Andhra, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu, Kerala)
- Temples in Eastern India and Bangladesh (Bengal, Orissa, Assam, Bangladesh)
- Temples in Western India (Goa, Gujarat, Maharashtra)
- Temples in South East Asia (Singapore, Malaysia, Cambodia, Vietnam)
- Temples in Indonesia
- Temples in Nepal
- Temples outside South Asia--Redtigerxyz Talk 10:24, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- I think the image should be carefully selected and integrated to describe the article sections. The article must not be overwhelmed by multitude of pictures. If readers wish to see galery examples of Hindu temple, they can link to Wikimedia Commons:Hindu temple and many of its categories, I think it is sufficent.(Gunkarta (talk) 10:54, 4 June 2011 (UTC))
- I agree with Redtigerxyz's suggestions. I think these should be such galleries at one place so as to indicate varied temples/architectures, and considering how tedious the work to collect such information is, should not be left to users to find out the details of. For example Church architecture, Islamic architecture, etc. have quite a lot of galleries and images well presented, and not removed with whatever excuses.
- Therefore mere links on commons is not sufficient according to me, but rather galleries on the same commons page, or a new page named 'List of temples/List of temple architecture' should be made. I had in the beginning assumed that the wiki pages on temples/architecture are indeed correct places to indicate much varied architecture/temple in Hinduism.
- All these galleries at one place should be a good starting point for comprehensive understanding of the subject at hand. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 14:18, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Orissa temples
[edit]While it is an acknowledged fact that odisha temples are beautiful, it would be POV to suggest that the most famous of hindu temples are all in this state. Temples like theSomnath temple are also as famous as the others. The line thus becomes unencyclopaediac. Hence it would be better to remove this line. However if I am wrong, please correct me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apoorvashutosh (talk • contribs) 08:41, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
POV
[edit]Quite a bit of overt POV problems with this article. For example, "A temple is a place where we can find unfathomable solace and peace." This article needs an overhaul. JoelWhy?(talk) 19:36, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Issues and missing sections
[edit]The August 5 2014 version of this article has the following issues:
- Some sections are missing. For example, the forms, design, symbolism, meaning and purposes of Hindu temple; their history from 4th century BC to pre-Islamic era and during medieval India.
- Lacks summary of the key peer reviewed scholarly publications such as by Michael W. Meister, Ananda Coomaraswamy and others. Stella Kramrisch and few who are mentioned need more substance.
- Most sections need more cites, NPOV discussion, substance and explanation.
I will try to address these issues. If someone has plans to address this, or has objections to the above, please post. It will save me some effort. Kind regards, Mark.muesse (talk) 22:04, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
CITEVAR
[edit]Johnbod: would you please follow CITEVAR yourself? Further, this "Michell, 59" makes WP:V difficult, given Michell is a prolific author. Let us support a citation format that aids verifiability in this and other articles, because that is what WP:CITEVAR intends in any case. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 19:37, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
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Article Evaluation
[edit]The Article on Hindu Temple is very fascinating article for me. I really like the information on that topic but I fell like the opening position has to be little more interesting then it is. I found some articles that gave me information about how divine it is to be in the temple? and how it feels? From my point of view reader should know how divine it feels when you are in the temple. so my suggestion is that those information should add in oping portion of the page. when I read the discussion on this article I also feel that we need to improve many thing in the article. one of the question was, can we call temples mandir? so, from my point of view I think we can because the proper word for temple is mandir but then we have to explain readers why do we call it mandir?
Disha08 (talk) 01:35, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
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Importance of visiting a temple
[edit]We all wonder what could be the need to visit hindu temples?Here is the answer to all our queries,temple are the places which are found to have high postive energy and an idol is installed at the point with extreme energy that is the reason why we go around the idol so that our mind stays in equilibrium and we get to feel good each time we visit such places.To create a discipline our ancestors made it a point to go to temple especially when we are mentally disturbed and fighting with problems we got to pray and ask god to show a way,inturn get the positivity to solve the problem all by ourselves. 2409:4071:2017:E0A7:0:0:7C9:30A5 (talk) 14:33, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
Importance of female writer
[edit]Women are really emotional and expressive creatures.They can well curate the expression of affection,anger,grief and vain better than male writers.Especially in India where women do not take up unconventional careers like writing,there are aspirational writers who need a push and a continuous push towards their dreams. We dont have much female writers who write about ancientindian histort and importance of goig to a temple,why do we go around trees and pray to idols.All of this has to be written and the myths against women not being well informed should be brokenPooja B Devadiga (talk) 14:40, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- Ironic because if you were well informed Pooja you'd actually contributed something to the content with some research than leave this strange victim complex opinion piece babe. 182.65.19.196 (talk) 07:23, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
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