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Merge or Redirect

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We only need one article around the "controversy". I don't think there is enough notability to support two separate articles about essentially the same thing. Jasynnash2 (talk) 10:13, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure about this as MediaMax/The Linkup was spun off from Streamload/Nirvanix and is notable if nothing else because of the failure being one of the worst of its kind. Nirvanix is in itself arguably notable enough too, and the subject matter is quite different. MediaMob (talk) 15:53, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Both articles appear to be primarily about the failure with a bit of history thrown in. If The Linkup is separate from Nirvanix than the failure mention isn't needed in the Nirvanix article and should only be included in this one. If The Linkup isn't separate than they are essentially the same company and only need one article. I'm not sure how either company is remotely notable away from this one event but, openly admit I'm not an expert on the subject. And I definitely don't want a new user like yourself to think he/she is getting pounded over their first contributions so, I'll beg off of this bit and let other people contribute. Thanks for your response though. Jasynnash2 (talk) 08:18, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with the above comment that cross reference would make sense if these were the same company but from all I have researched they very clearly are not. The only relation is through some apparently shared lineage. Adding one more thought "MediaMob" seems to have a very particular agenda when checking the contribution history. Maybe I'm mistaken but something seems to smell wrong with these "contributions".—Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.196.233.42 (talk) 08:30, 22 August 2008 (UTC) 76.196.233.42 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
You can second guess my motives all you want but I've already clearly stated I have nothing to do with any of them and that's about the best I can do. If I were out to tarnish Nirvanix's name don't you think I would be all about getting thelinkup/mediamax content in there too? There are three things that are notable here: the Streamload/MediaMax/TheLinkup service which was a trail blazer and won a bunch of awards, Nirvanix which appear to be on track to doing the same with enterprise equivalents and of course the mother of all failures, which implicates both parties. Maybe there is sufficient commonality to merge, especially as MediaMax/TheLinkup is dead now... I don't know... that's why we have discussions like this. MediaMob (talk) 06:25, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll leave the debate about where to put everything to those of you who are more interested than me in that topic. What I can do here is give a little more precise background on the three entities. Maybe that will help clarify how these companies should be covered in Wikipedia. Streamload was the original company. It grew to a little over 20,000 subscribers and was delivering terabytes of data every day. It was rebranded MediaMax and was operating under that name for awhile. When Streamload/MediaMax was raising a C round from venture capitalists, the lead investor wanted nothing to do with consumer services and would only invest in an entity that was a service like Amazon's S3, a backend service. So, an agreement was reached such that MediaMax was spun out and became a separate company. The company that had been Streamload/MediaMax was renamed Nirvanix. The New MediaMax had the subscribers and the database of their files, while Nirvanix retained all the servers where the files resided, and New MediaMax had an agreement with Nirvanix whereby Nirvanix provided all the server storage for New MediaMax, that is, New MediaMax became a customer of Nirvanix. Subsequently, New MediaMax changed its name to The Linkup. Shortly afterward, New MediaMax/The Linkup had to shut down because of various problems and a lack of cash to sustain operations. Wiredcoach —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.197.196.123 (talk) 00:38, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]