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Добрый вечер! Поздравляю Вас с Новым годом! В связи с тем, что с определённых сайтов органов власти различных стран мира было загружено немало медиафайлов, то вы бы не могли поставить на полную или частичную защиту следующие шаблоны: {{Duma.gov.ru}}, {{Council.gov.ru}}, {{Tatarstan.ru}}, {{President.gov.ua}}? MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 20:15, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

С Новым годом! Защитил rubin16 (talk) 10:43, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

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Hello rubin16, hope you're having a great day!

I wanted to ask that, can I apply for File Mover rights as I have found this category which have 23000 files to be renamed. I would like to help in this. I know all the Criterions and what can and cannot be renamed, and have made over 35 requests, in which all but one was successful (maximum from this category only). Now I am asking you here is that can I continue to COM:RFR this request and be assured that you do not block me again because I don't want it. Contributers2020^{Talk to me here} 04:26, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello @Contributers2020. I won’t block you for such a request rubin16 (talk) 10:39, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Okay then. --Contributers2020^{Talk to me here} 11:38, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Добрый день. Вы бы не могли прокомментировать ситуацию с лицензированием изображений с официальных сайтов Республики Башкортостан? 17 мая 2010 года Администрация Президента Башкортостана выслала согласие на использование материалов сайта по лицензии Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported - аналогичную в то время с сайтом президента России. Если следовать данным из Архива Интернета, то только 3 июня 2017 года внизу всех страниц сайта появился значок "Все материалы сайта доступны по лицензии Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International", при этом переводные версии шаблона (на польском, македонском и португальском языках) сохраняют значок CC BY 3.0. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 10:43, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Добрый день. А можно уточнить вопрос? В 2010 дали согласие, но на сайт плашку не повесили: этого нам все равно достаточно, можно было использовать CC BY 3.0. В 2017 таки повесили плашку, но сразу на обновлённую версию СС-BY-4.0. Так как эта плашка (как я понимаю) сейчас везде на сайте, можно использовать все материалы под этой обновлённой лицензией rubin16 (talk) 12:29, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Да, именно так и произошло - сейчас материалы Kremlin.ru, вышедшие до 8 апреля 2014 года (так указано в шаблоне), используются и под CC BY 4.0, и под CC BY 3.0. При этом значок CC BY 4.0 появился только 8 апреля 2015 года с запуском нынешней версии сайта. Поэтому скорее всего, здесь два варианта - или все материалы только под CC BY 4.0, либо материалы, выпущенные до конца мая 2017 года, идут также под CC BY 3.0. Более того, с официальных сайтов Республики Башкортостан ещё не проводилось массовой загрузки медиафайлов, несмотря на то, что это был один из первых официальных сайтов субъекта Российской Федерации, перешедшего на использование материалов по лицензии Creative Commons. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 19:56, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

File:Соотношение русских и татар в Республике Татарстан по городским и сельским поселениям.png has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you! Afrikaans ∙ Bahasa Indonesia ∙ Bahasa Melayu ∙ bosanski ∙ català ∙ čeština ∙ dansk ∙ Deutsch ∙ Deutsch (Sie-Form)‎ ∙ eesti ∙ English ∙ español ∙ Esperanto ∙ français ∙ galego ∙ hrvatski ∙ íslenska ∙ italiano ∙ magyar ∙ Nederlands ∙ norsk bokmål ∙ norsk nynorsk ∙ occitan ∙ Plattdüütsch ∙ polski ∙ português ∙ português do Brasil ∙ română ∙ shqip ∙ sicilianu ∙ slovenčina ∙ slovenščina ∙ suomi ∙ svenska ∙ Tiếng Việt ∙ Türkçe ∙ Zazaki ∙ Ελληνικά ∙ беларуская ∙ беларуская (тарашкевіца)‎ ∙ български ∙ македонски ∙ русский ∙ српски / srpski ∙ українська ∙ հայերեն ∙ বাংলা ∙ മലയാളം ∙ ပအိုဝ်ႏဘာႏသာႏ ∙ မြန်မာဘာသာ ∙ ไทย ∙ 조선말 ∙ 한국어 ∙ 日本語 ∙ 简体中文‎ ∙ 繁體中文‎ ∙ עברית ∙ العربية ∙ پښتو ∙ فارسی ∙ ދިވެހިބަސް ∙ +/−

  — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 23:58, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Your deletion here has just come to my attention. You justify the deletion by:

1. questioning whether or not permission has been given. I have published Welsh Government's email, which gives their permission. That is enough for me. On what grounds are you questioning their email?
2. You say 'it needs to be verified and accepted by VRT, not in a form of public email'. Please supply evidence that an open published email from the owner of the photograph is not enough. This image was discussed and authorised by myself as Wikimedia UK Manager (Wales) with Welsh Gov's authority; this was then published openly.
3. You say, 'VRT would have asked to specify CC-BY-SA version, as there is no general CC-BY-SA'. Link to where 'CC-BY-SA' is NOT acceptable on Commons, please. The version would have been the current one, by default. I'm pinging in @Richard Keatinge: as he also disagreed with your deletion. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 13:59, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

There is no way to ensure that the email actually exists, it is just a 3rd party who is posting some text. It is been a long time that such declarations aren’t accepted. You can see examples on Commons:Volunteer Response Team#Licensing images: when do I contact VRT?. That is the first case there. If this method isn’t used, any user can pretend that he had some permission received personally but it won’t be verifiable. Otherwise, such declaration should be published at some other external resource that could be reliably attributed to the copyright holder, for example, by adding the relevant statement on walesonview.com. For the third point, you can just look at {{CC-BY-SA}} and again there is a long standing practice of non-accepting such images rubin16 (talk) 19:36, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

1. I have given the name of the person, his email, his phone number, his address, and you question whether he exists!. You also suggest that I have made this up (pretend that he had some permission received personally! I take this as a personal insult.

2. Nothing in your link (when do I contact VRT?) mentions this scenario, whereby an email, with full details of the owner is added onto the image. Your link is general advise only. It does not state that an image, which includes full disclosure and details and authority by the owner needs to be verified and accepted by VRT, not in a form of public email.

3. The image you deleted included the exact CC-BY-SA-3.0 version; please verify that this is the case. As I say, the email, the copyright owner requested CC-BY-SA, and the current version at that time was 3.0. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 05:42, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

I am afraid you are wrong in all points. You can ask advise from other users on COM:UNDEL rubin16 (talk) 05:43, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Discussion copied here. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 05:49, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

If you want to discuss the reversal of deletion, you need to open a nomination on COM:UNDEL. I have answered your questions but you aren’t hearing me and just repeating the same false claims rubin16 (talk) 06:28, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Добрый вечер! Неделю назад я по электронной почте получил согласие от автора Дзен-канала "ПАНТОГРАФ" на использование фотоматериалов канала (за исключением сторонних авторов) по лицензии CC-BY-SA 4.0. Вы бы не могли подсказать, как мне выслать его разрешение в VRTS? MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 17:42, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Самое простое - если бы они добавили инфо о лицензии в описание канала на Дзен. Либо им нужно будет шаблонное разрешение отправить в VRTS с какого-то проверяемого электронного адреса rubin16 (talk) 06:06, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Добрый вечер! Я там вручную перенёс файл на Викисклад в связи с действием статьи 1276 ГК РФ в редакции от 1 октября 2014 года. Вы бы не могли проверить условия для постановки шаблона перенесённого файла на Викисклад в русской Википедии? MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 20:20, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Здравствуйте! Там вообще оба файла надо удалить: в ру.Вики он загружен как несвободный, хотя и сделан самим загрузившим. Но проблема в том, что он свободную лицензию на свою фотографию так и не указал, поэтому сюда загрузить ее нельзя. В старые времена (до свободы панорамы) оно ещё как то в ру Вики могло быть, но сейчас это тоже несвободный файл, который можно заменить свободным, поэтому нужно удалить rubin16 (talk) 06:45, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

По Брянску ещё одно изображение с неясным лицензионным статусом - https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BC%D1%8F%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%89%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BD_%D0%B2_%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B5_%D0%91%D1%80%D1%8F%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B5.jpg. По Парку Толстого, то деревянные скульптуры подпадают под {{FoP-Russia}}, так как они являются произведениями садово-паркового искусства, но шаблон несвободы панорамы мешает их переносить на Викисклад. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 09:37, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Доброе утро! Вы бы не могли обработать согласие Дзен-канала Пантограф на использование материалов по лицензии CC-BY-SA-4.0? MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 06:38, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Rubin16, you have been rather busy with old DR's today, thanks for that! I try to do the same, sometimes the remaining items of a day is very long.... Ellywa (talk) 17:32, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, thank you! At least we are significantly below 12 months backlog now due to joint efforts :) rubin16 (talk) 17:38, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Добрый день!
Не знаете, могу ли я получить удаленный файл себе на почту (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Osman_I_area_map_2.png)? Удивленный1 (talk) 20:17, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Добрый день, напишите мне Википочтой, я отправлю файл ответным письмом rubin16 (talk) 05:41, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Получил, спасибо. Удивленный1 (talk) 13:07, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Привет. Вы бы не могли помочь объединить эту категорию с Category:Images from loda.gov.ua? MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 14:38, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

привет. Revision #634154855 rubin16 (talk) 12:53, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Добрый день. Можно попросить вас удалить первую (замещенную, переписанную) версию данного файла (от 01:32, 18 ноября 2018)? Из-за наличия двух версий страницы скана грузятся в используемый проект с глюками (используются в Викитеке), сложно работать. Перезаписывался файл в связи с устранением дефектов, так что необходимости в старой версии нет. Спасибо! Ratte (talk) 10:35, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

@Ratte добрый день, скрыл, так хотели? rubin16 (talk) 11:35, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Нет, не то. Хотел, чтобы полностью удалили первую версию. Викисклад это позволяет сделать (пример: в другом файле была удалена первая версия, загруженная в декабре 2017 года). Можно, в принципе, еще проще сделать: удалите плз файл вообще, я сейчас с нуля загружу. Ratte (talk) 11:46, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Удалил первую версию полностью. rubin16 (talk) 15:11, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

 Thank you. Ratte (talk) 15:44, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Большое спасибо, Rubin. Glad to see you're still active despite this. CFA1877 (talk) 14:35, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello Rubin, could you have a look to the source of this file, please. I doubt it's free licensed. Thanks in advance. GeorgHH • talk   10:29, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello. I wasn't able to find a proof of license either, so, nominated images for deletion, thank you rubin16 (talk) 10:39, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments after final resolution. I cannot agree with your decision. I clearly understand your opinion. In real life in Thailand many governmental agencies, scientists etc. uses copyrighted materials like Google Map images. I understand that GMap Images are not free worldwide. And we cannot use this images here. I saw works of thai scientists with clear copyright - near zero illustrations. We are not real specialists in copyright rules here in Commons. That is why we use national copyright law. (Thai law with our case) After that we delegate responsibility to the author of the document. We do not need to make investigation about every sentence and every image, If Thai law suppose its data free to use. Otherwise we need to check every image published under this license. And the second point: you use "inductive reasoning". I think it is prohibited in Wikipedia, and may be prohibied in Commons. Let me illustrate: "the report obviously includes copyrighted material, so, we can't be sure that other images in the report are free, too". Let me continue. This report uses copyrighted material, then we cannot be sure about other reports. We delete media in Commons from all thai reports. Let me continue. Thai gavernmental reports uses copyrighted materials, then we cannot be sure about reports from other countries. We delete media in Commons from all governmental reports. When should we stop? If Thai law suppose this images to be free, let believe it, шт default. If we have particular claim about one image (for example with google map image on background) let discuss exactly it. I still think that it is not good idea to delete image made by order of thai government, and published free by thai government according thai law. Nord794ub (talk) 09:17, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for writing and for understanding. Unfortunately, the basic principle is the opposite: we don't trust the author who claims that their media is free when we see the direct evidence to contradict that. And it leads to different levels of disbelief: sometimes, some agencies/websites erroneously include some protected material and we just delete it on a case-by-case basis. Sometimes, they post so many copyrighted materials that we start to complete deny their contributions and block all their materials without spending time to find out some free and valuable copies. This happens, for example with Flickr users (for example, see blacklisted accounts - Commons:Questionable Flickr images), with various license templates for the whole content of the website, when we delete the whole bunch of files when we see an intolerable portion of copyvios in it. rubin16 (talk) 14:17, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

• I do not like this idea. I think sometime benefits from file more important than questionable cleanliness of its copyright. If Commons policy so strict, you can delete these files also:
• ThaiParliamentDusitComplex aerial view.jpg
• ThaiParliamentDusitComplex second stage.jpg
• ThaiParliamentDusitComplex main building front view.jpg
• ThaiParliamentDusitComplex second stage corner view.jpg
• I really do not remember the source of it. I am sure - from governmental agencies of Thailand. But do not remember exact adress. Nord794ub (talk) 03:53, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello,

I am messaging you because a contest for a sound logo for Wikimedia is being developed and your opinion as a Wikimedia Commons admin is appreciated. My team would like to know if it is possible for the top finalist sound logos in the contest to have attribution temporarily hidden from public view until all the votes are final? The idea is to let the public judge the sound logo contestants based on the merit of the logo, not the person or people who made it. Again, any feedback is appreciated.

Thank you,

VGrigas (WMF) (talk) 18:12, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi there's been some small developments between rival opposition forces in Syria here's a few links https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/syria-rebel-divisions-hts-takes-turkey-afrin-villages also https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2022/06/why-are-turkeys-allies-fighting-each-other-syria Also I see few opposition enclaves new Golan Heights, are those correct? S.G ReDark (talk) 15:57, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Rubin16, thank you for your comment, now I'm aware of such a category exists. And would you please check File:Анатолий Чубайс.jpg - given to its history, I'm not sure if this file has ever been tried to be deleted. Xunks (talk) 06:51, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Привет. Как лучше перенести историю правок в этом случае Category:OJSC Russian Railways? Александр Мотин (talk) 10:25, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

File:Один из вариантов раскраски "Аннушки", в котором возрождена классическая цветовая схема московских трамвайных вагонов.jpg, как я понял, загружен Вами на Викисклад из русской Википедии. Утверждается, что это собственная работа уч. Эдвар. Однако есть сомнение, что это так. В доп. свойствах изображения данные только о фотошопе. А личная страница участника содержит неоднократные предупреждения о нарушении авторских прав; участник к настоящему времени в русской Википедии заблокирован. Я предполагаю, что файл подлежит удалению Гдеёж? (talk) 11:05, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Вы же можете вынести файл на КУ с этими аргументами rubin16 (talk) 12:19, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

File:Один из вариантов раскраски "Аннушки", в котором возрождена классическая цветовая схема московских трамвайных вагонов.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you! Afrikaans ∙ Bahasa Indonesia ∙ Bahasa Melayu ∙ bosanski ∙ català ∙ čeština ∙ dansk ∙ Deutsch ∙ Deutsch (Sie-Form)‎ ∙ eesti ∙ English ∙ español ∙ Esperanto ∙ français ∙ galego ∙ hrvatski ∙ íslenska ∙ italiano ∙ magyar ∙ Nederlands ∙ norsk bokmål ∙ norsk nynorsk ∙ occitan ∙ Plattdüütsch ∙ polski ∙ português ∙ português do Brasil ∙ română ∙ shqip ∙ sicilianu ∙ slovenčina ∙ slovenščina ∙ suomi ∙ svenska ∙ Tiếng Việt ∙ Türkçe ∙ Zazaki ∙ Ελληνικά ∙ беларуская ∙ беларуская (тарашкевіца)‎ ∙ български ∙ македонски ∙ русский ∙ српски / srpski ∙ українська ∙ հայերեն ∙ বাংলা ∙ മലയാളം ∙ ပအိုဝ်ႏဘာႏသာႏ ∙ မြန်မာဘာသာ ∙ ไทย ∙ 조선말 ∙ 한국어 ∙ 日本語 ∙ 简体中文‎ ∙ 繁體中文‎ ∙ עברית ∙ العربية ∙ پښتو ∙ فارسی ∙ ދިވެހިބަސް ∙ +/−

Гдеёж? (talk) 22:26, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi, Apparently, this is allowed as per COM:FOP Mexico. See also current discussion at [1]. Please undelete, and reopen the DR. Thanks, Yann (talk) 21:24, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

@Yann hello. IMHO there isn't much discussion on AN to prove that the current consensus allows FoP Mexico to do that. While I have no objections if you restore it yourself, for my personal point of view, I don't see enough arguments right now. rubin16 (talk) 05:06, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

 Done Thank you. Yann (talk) 16:12, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed you deleted File:CNN.svg. Wouldn't this be under COM:TOO US per the deletion requests of CNN logo.svg, CNN Tonight logo.png and CNN en Español 2010.svg? --Nintendofan885^{T&Cs apply} 17:29, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

I have restored it per Nintendofan885's request on COM:UNDEL. In the future, please don't speedy-delete logos unilaterally especially if they (or similar versions) have survived a DR, and always exercise great caution with any image used on dozens or hundreds of pages since deleting it causes it to get automatically removed by CommonsDelinker, necessitating great manual effort to readd it in the event of a mistake. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 23:34, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for helping and sorry for not answering, had my second covid lately. rubin16 (talk) 12:46, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Oh no, hope you are feeling better! -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 16:24, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Re: Stolperstein für Istvan Slezinger (Novi Becej).jpg. Can you please have a look at this Stolperstein. I just had a discussion with the uploader. In short: My position is that it should be renamed Ištvan Šlezinger. Her position is, that it can only be found via Google in the current version, therefore no renaming. Asking kindly for Your advice. Thanks--Potsdamergänzer (talk) 20:01, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

IMHO also the city Novi Bečej should be renamed.--Potsdamergänzer (talk) 21:00, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Спасибо за помощь с файлом! DeВanYa (talk) 15:03, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello Rubin16,

since you're active after all: I've closed this DR brought by you as keep and noticed quite a disconnect between Template:PD-Russia/ru and Template:PD-Russia/en on the one side and Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Russia and Commons:Нормы авторского права по территории/Россия on the other, concerning films shown before 1929. Preferably template and copyright help page should say the same. I'm not that deeply immersed in Russian copyright law, and I don't speak the language, so I don't feel up to the task. Perhaps you are, or you know someone. Also pinging @Alex Spade: who recently edited the template. Regards --Rosenzweig τ 21:06, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I was wondering if you can update a new file of the Syrian Civil War map. They are reports of the conflict starting up again and I have noticed that the svg hasn't been updated in over a year. You can use my file (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Syria.svg) or you can make one based off this user's map (https://twitter.com/Suriyakmaps/status/1568656059476152320?cxt=HHwWgMC4_f-X_sQrAAAA) the only one I know of who's mapped this conflict after 2019.

Thank you!

محرر البوق (talk) 23:47, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Hello. The best way is to propose and discuss your updates on the talk page first - File talk:Syrian Civil War map.svg rubin16 (talk) 11:46, 27 November 2022 (UTC)