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Category:Orchards of Pennsylvania

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Upmerge to Category:Orchards. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:30, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Orchards of Pennsylvania (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Orchards in the United States (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT. Created by Target for Today because there is an orchard in, you guessed it, Gettysburg. My search of WP does not reveal a lot of articles on orchards in the U.S. in general (as opposed to places merely named "FOO orchard.") I did just add a single article to populate Orchards in the United States and suggest we upmerge to have at least two, there. I also propose we do this so as not to allow Target for Today's continued WP:POINTy creation of Gettysburg micro-categories. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Loanwords

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The result of the discussion was: Listify and delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:27, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Loanwords (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: I have in the previous day nominated two subcategories for deletion (Category:Latin loanwords and Category:Greek loanwords) over more specific issues having to do with the interrelationships of the languages in question. Examination of some other current discussions, however, leads me to consider WP:OC#SHAREDNAMES, which implies that shared etymology of origin isn't enough to tie a bunch of otherwise unrelated words together. I am therefore proposing to delete this and all its subcategories. Mangoe (talk) 21:11, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • How can there possibly be valid interwiki links? The set of loanwords for each language is likely to be different, not to mention that there isn't for example, going to be a "French loanwords" category on the French Wikipedia. Mangoe (talk) 21:33, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Good Olfactory's statement. This is a category built around linking words by the nature of the word. We categorize not by words, but by the things they represent. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. The origin of candle and torch as words is not the issue, but that they are similar things.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:55, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the list of subcategories: I have omitted toponym and surname categories from this list, and I have not gone out and tagged each of these.

Category:Ainu loanwords
Category:Algonquian loanwords
Category:Basque loanwords
Category:Celtic loanwords
Category:Breton loanwords
Category:Irish loanwords
Category:Welsh loanwords
Category:Croatian loanwords
Category:Danish loanwords
Category:English words and phrases of foreign origin
Category:Afrikaans loanwords
Category:Czech loanwords
Category:French loanwords
Category:Old French loanwords
Category:Italian loanwords
Category:Portuguese loanwords
Category:Quechua loanwords
Category:Romani loanwords
Category:Etruscan loanwords
Category:Finnish loanwords
Category:German loanwords
Category:Germanic loanwords
Category:Dutch loanwords
Category:Greek loanwords
Category:Hebrew loanwords
Category:Hindi loanwords
Category:Hungarian loanwords
Category:Indo-European loanwords
Category:Iranian loanwords
Category:Persian loanwords
Category:Latin loanwords
Category:Phoenician loanwords
Category:Romance loanwords
Category:Romanian loanwords
Category:Semitic loanwords
Category:Arabic loanwords
Category:Serbian loanwords
Category:Slavic loanwords
Category:Bulgarian loanwords
Category:Croatian loanwords
Category:Czech loanwords
Category:Polish loanwords
Category:Russian loanwords
Category:Serbian loanwords
Category:Serbo-Croatian loanwords
Category:Croatian loanwords
Category:Serbian loanwords
Category:Slovak loanwords
Category:Slovene loanwords
Category:Ukrainian loanwords
Category:Slovak loanwords
Category:Slovene loanwords
Category:Swedish loanwords
Category:Turkic loanwords
Category:Turkish loanwords
Category:Urdu loanwords

Mangoe (talk) 04:25, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Cold War sites established in 1952

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The result of the discussion was: Upmerge/delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:24, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Cold War sites established in 1952 to all parents
Propose merging Category:Cold War sites established in 1951 to all parents
Propose merging Category:Cold War sites established in 1948 to all parents
Propose merging Category:Cold War sites established in 1958 to all parents
Propose merging Category:Cold War organizations established in 1950 to all parents
Propose merging Category:Cold War organizations established in 1946 to all parents
Propose merging Category:Cold War organizations established in 1948 to all parents
Propose merging Category:Cold War organizations established in 1949 to all parents
Propose merging Category:Cold War organizations established in 1955 to all parents
Propose merging Category:Cold War organizations established in 1960 to all parents
Propose deletion of Category:1951 in the Cold War
Propose deletion of Category:1955 in the Cold War
Nominator's rationale: UpMerge to all parents. I'm not convinced that we can really say that the establishment of these sites by year was specifically due to the cold war as the reason for their establishment in that year. Those that are clearly cold war related belong in Category:Cold War military installations‎ or Category:Cold War sites‎, which are not so over populated as to need an additional level of categorizing by year. Is by year defining or is that a function of available budgets and the state of technology at the time they were built? Vegaswikian (talk) 21:10, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Rail junctions in the United States

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The result of the discussion was: Keep and populate. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:31, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Rail junctions in the United States (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. I think I would have to think about this category if we had a large number of articles on rail junctions. However including towns that have a junction or stations that service multiple lines may not junctions as described in the article (they may be outside of the station proper in a switching yard. In the few cases where the stations might actually be a junction, do they provide detailed coverage of the junction or just a mention? Best to avoid the problems and delete. If this is deleted, a cleanup of the parent category based on these conditions would be merited. The UK category might be best looked at independently since their use of the term may well be different. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:59, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:High school dropouts

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The result of the discussion was: speedy delete as re-creation of previously deleted category: see here and here. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:39, 18 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Category:High school dropouts (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Very trivial way of categorizing biographical articles, seems to fall under WP:Overcategorization, particularly because it is a non-defining characteristic (e.g. "it would not be appropriate to mention in the lead sentence of the subject's article") I see no option but to delete. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talkcontributions) 20:57, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:SKM stops

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2D. Timrollpickering (talk) 17:24, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:SKM stops to Category:Railway stations served by Szybka Kolej Miejska (Tricity)
Nominator's rationale: As per Szybka Kolej Miejska (Tricity) and other categories in Category:Railway stations in Poland by company. SeveroTC 13:43, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy rename (C2D) - 17:30, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

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Category:People of Adams County, Pennsylvania, in the American Civil War

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:21, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:People of Adams County, Pennsylvania, in the American Civil War (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Stimied in his efforts to create a Gettysburg battlefield people category at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_January_3#Category:Gettysburg_Battlefield_people, User:Target for Today recreates it with a slightly different approach. Delete as an overly narrow intersection category. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:28, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Geography of Gettysburg, Pennsylvania

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:28, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Geography of Gettysburg, Pennsylvania (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: User:Target for Today has resumed editing, which means, of course, that we have more pointless Gettysburg micro-categories to deal with at CfD. This is basically a recreation of the recently deleted Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_January_4#Category:Gettysburg_Battlefield_landforms. We already have Category:Places of the Gettysburg Battlefield, for these very places. We also already have Category:Landforms of Adams County, Pennsylvania. The creator seems to believe that places that are named after physical features deserve some special taxonomy, per his recently deleted Category:Fields (geography) and that is, I believe, what is behind this latest creation. A true geography category for such a small area would be a WP:SMALLCAT. Delete. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:23, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Team Angle members

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:24, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Team Angle members (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Unneeded category; Subject matter adheres to only one team which has its own article called The World's Greatest Tag Team. Included is another group, which also has its own article The Angle Alliance. WillC 06:52, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Charities

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2D. Timrollpickering (talk) 17:25, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Charities to Category:Charitable organizations
Nominator's rationale: Per main article. —Justin (koavf)TCM06:15, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People charged with child sexual abuse

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 09:14, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose deleting Category:People charged with child sexual abuse
Nominator's rationale: A Category:People convicted of child sexual abuse also exists. Given the significant difference between "charged with" and "convicted of", this more recent category seems inappropriate and a magnet for BLP issues and innuendo. Fat&Happy (talk) 03:23, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Marine Animals of the Cape Peninsula

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:24, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Marine Animals of the Cape Peninsula to Category:Marine animals of the Cape Peninsula
Nominator's rationale: Rename. C2A, but maybe to Category:Marine fauna of the Cape Peninsula in compliance with parent categories. Brandmeister t 01:10, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Racing drivers from State

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The result of the discussion was: Keep. Timrollpickering (talk) 16:35, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Alabama to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Arizona to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Arkansas to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from California to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Colorado‎ to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Connecticut‎ to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Delaware to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Florida‎ to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Georgia (U.S. state)‎ to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Hawaii‎ to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Idaho to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Illinois to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Indiana to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Iowa to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Kansas‎ to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Kentucky to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Louisiana to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Maine to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Maryland to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Massachusetts‎ to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Michigan to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Minnesota‎ to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Mississippi‎ to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Missouri‎ to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Montana to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Nebraska to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Nevada to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from New Hampshire to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from New Jersey to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from New Mexico to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from New York to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from North Carolina to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from North Dakota to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Ohio to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Oklahoma‎ to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Oregon to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Pennsylvania‎ to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Rhode Island to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from South Carolina to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from South Dakota to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Tennessee‎ to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Texas to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Utah to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Vermont‎ to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Virginia to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Washington (state)‎ to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from West Virginia to Category:American racing drivers
Propose merging Category:Racing drivers from Wisconsin to Category:American racing drivers
Nominator's rationale: Merge. State of origin is not a defining charateristic for racing drivers and particularly for international drivers not well known. With 50+ sub categories searching will be a very frustrating experience. Falcadore (talk) 03:12, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and comment First off, these should all be merged into one discussion as they are all essentially going to have the same rationale. Furthermore, if these "by state" categories were deleted, it would make Category:American racing drivers so big as to be unnavigable. —Justin (koavf)TCM04:38, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Justin - you're missing the point a bit. I am not saying American racing drivers should not be subdivided. I am saying that state of birth or residence (the categories concerned do not actually make this very important distinction) is not a good method of doing so. It rquires a level of familiarity with the subject not present in the majority of casual readers. If I was to make a suggestion, drivers should be subdivided by the type of racing cars they compete in rather than something as comparitively lowly notable as birthstate or as transitory as residential address. --Falcadore (talk) 07:16, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Merged. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:59, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - State of origin is just as defining a characteristic as nationality of orign; US people are traditionally categorised by state, racing drivers should be no different. - The Bushranger One ping only 11:49, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • KeepI don't think categorizing by racing class is going to help much, because it looks to me as though the vast majority of these are NASCAR drivers, and I'm guessing that the Indy car guys, if smaller in number, are still going to be a pretty large group too. Place of origin, for better or worse, is how we divide and conquer these big American categories. Mangoe (talk) 12:56, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment Then split into American NASCAR drivers, American Indycar drivers, American ALMS drivers, then subdivide by state into Calfornian NASCAR drivers and South Dakota Indycar drivers. That would address all objections, and not make it difficult to find a Formula 3000 driver when you are unsure of the spelling. Racing drivers are more famous for what they race than where they are born. Vast majority does not assist those who are searching the minority. We should not be making the job harder. --Falcadore (talk) 13:04, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • No, it would not address all objections - I strongly object to "country/state+series" categorisation (the existing "Fooian F1 drivers" categories notwithstanding, and yes, I believe they should be upmerged at some point, too). If somebody is looking for a Formula 3000 driver, then they can look in Category:Formula 3000 drivers. Just because racing drivers are more famous for their series than their home state/country, does not mean we shouldn't categorise them by their state/country. (Or is Nigel Mansell somehow not notable for being from Britian?)- The Bushranger One ping only 17:21, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        • Comparing Nigel Mansell being of Britain is no comparable. The comparable example would be is Nigel Mansell not notable for being from Worcestershire? In that event I would say no he is not.
        • Isn't your argument dependant on linking state to nationality? State based subdivision is a geographical subdivision not related to nationality. Yet Formula One drivers are subdivided by nationality, not geography. You do not sense the disconnect? --Falcadore (talk) 08:35, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose mergers - All it would do is remove a useful way to find similar articles and create an unnavigable mess in one category, since all the state categories are already subs of Category:American racing drivers . Best, Markvs88 (talk) 16:02, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: If this is merged all the articles in the categories will be required to be recategorised in the appropriate Category:Sportspeople from (state) categories. - The Bushranger One ping only 17:21, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • No it wouldn't. I am not advocating changes to any other category other than this one. I also believe each category should be debated on its own merits. Any mergers in other categories would have to be debated on the indivdual cases involved. --Falcadore (talk) 08:39, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • Actually, yes, it would, because otherwise the articles would no longer be in any sort of by-state category, and the existing "Racing drivers of state" categories are subcats of "Sportspeople of state". In order to remain in the "Sportspeople by state" tree, where they belong, they would need the "Sportspeople of (state)" category addded. - The Bushranger One ping only 10:33, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        • So your justification is to remain linked to other by-state categories? That's the same reason as before, just dressed differenty, the counter-argument is the same - 'state' is not a relevant related category to 'racing driver'. These categories are only two weeks old, it is not as though I am suggesting the removal of categories that have been in place for years. --Falcadore (talk) 12:16, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
          • First, American biographies are categorised by state. To address your second point...er...well, they look like they're less than a month old, but that's only because Cydebot "cut and paste moves" categories when they're renamed. In the format Racecar drivers from (state), these categories have been around quite a bit longer... - The Bushranger One ping only 21:02, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
            • First, American biographies are categorised by state. Yes, but this isn't about American biographies, this is about American racing drivers, and state is not connected to that. Sometimes, what happens elsewhere in wikipedia can be wrong. --Falcadore (talk) 00:05, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, because it's in line with our category tree. Subdividing by state is a standard method of reducing the size of US-based categories for biographies. Nyttend (talk) 06:12, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: And I wolud even support dividing them further to smaller regions, if they would be as large as Category:American racing drivers is right now. Danim (talk) 22:23, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep / Oppose merge The parent category is too large and should be diffused. State is a common and widely used way to subdivide American categories. See Category:American musicians by state and Category:American writers by state for examples. The state of the driver's hometown is easily verifiable. State is easily found for a driver and a logical way to subdivide such a large category. Dividing by series is problematic since so many racing drivers raced in multiple series / genres which would require most drivers to be many categories (or would be too subjective). If you want to be able to search for drivers in a series then why not create lists? Deleted Category:Racecar drivers from Florida was created in December 2010 for those without the admin tools. Royalbroil 23:20, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. State is not a defining characteristic, and smacks of overcategorization. Series would be a better way of diffusing the main category. Arguments that other by-state cats exists should be ignored as WP:OTHERSTUFF. jcgoble3 (talk) 23:55, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I think by-state subcategorization is valid and useful here. State of origin can be a defining characteristic, and it doesn't seem farfetched that readers might be looking for a list of racing drivers from a particular state. If readers instead want a list of all the American drivers in a particular series, I feel like lists (along the lines of List of Formula One drivers which is a featured list) are better suited. Camerafiend (talk) 16:54, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge State of origin can be a defining characteristic, but it almost always is not. The category can confuse birthplace and place of upbrining, and neither of those are relevant to the sport which is the parent category. There are a huge number of drivers but it is almost never useful to the reader to see who is a driver from which state. There ought to be a subcategorization systeml; I do not know what system is best, but this one has almost no utility. Blue Rasberry (talk) 22:18, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Factories in New Zealand

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2C. Timrollpickering (talk) 17:26, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Factories in New Zealand to Category:Industrial buildings in New Zealand
Nominator's rationale: to suit convention. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 01:40, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Mediterranean port cities and towns in Libya

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:25, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Mediterranean port cities and towns in Libya to Category:Port cities and towns in Libya
Nominator's rationale: Merge up because ALL port cities and towns in Libya are in the Mediterranean, that is the only coast Libya has, so there is no way for a port to be Libyan and NOT be Mediterranean. Its a completely redundant category. Jeancey (talk) 00:32, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Open Access attribution

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating text from open access publications. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:27, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Open Access attribution to Category:UNKNOWN
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Most subcategories of the administration category Category:Wikipedia sources follow the form "Wikipedia articles incorporating text from ..." which suggest the title Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating text from open access publications or more precisely Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating text from uncategorized open access publications, as unwieldy as that sounds. Pnm (talk) 00:15, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Open access

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Open access (publishing). Timrollpickering (talk) 19:26, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Open access to Category:UNKNOWN
Nominator's rationale: Rename to make unambiguous. It's about open access to scholarly journals and other publications, not other meanings of open access. Rename to Category:Open access scholarship (most descriptive but may not be widely used), Category:Open access publishing, or Category:Open access (publishing). Pnm (talk) 00:06, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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