Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of dignitaries at the funeral of Pope John Paul II

Seems pretty good to me! - Ta bu shi da yu 28 June 2005 07:42 (UTC)

• Oppose As this is the English Wikipedia, shouldn't the French go? And shouldn't it be in English (rather than French) alphabetical order? SmokeDog 28 June 2005 11:36 (UTC)
• Oppose I agree with Smokedog, to be useful, the list must be in English alphabetical order. If I want to know exactly who the USA sent, I will scan down to "U", not "E", and be confused. Utility is more important than the seating chart. Dsmdgold June 28, 2005 16:35 (UTC)
• Oppose, sufficient reason stated above; can be improved. File:PhoenixSuns 100.pngPhoenix2File:Teamflag1.png
• Object - generally pretty good; however, in addition to the above:
  1. there are no references (unless the external link is the - sole - reference: surely there must be other reference?), and
  2. the tables also need reformatting to put each person and their title on a separate line, removing the <br>s, so the titles line up with the names (many do not for me at the moment - for example, the last two in Poland have no title opposite their names). Some "rowspans" are going to be necessary for some countries. See the formatting of the cricket lists. -- ALoan (Talk) 29 June 2005 10:44 (UTC)
• Oppose This list has plenty of featured potential, but the statements made above are all true. Having French country names in an English wikipedia is simply ridiculous. Also, I believe the first sentence is a bit awkward and self-referential. There should be a better way to integrate the title into the article.--Sophitus June 29, 2005 21:41 (UTC)
  • The French order allows readers to see the seating arrangements at the funeral (which were in French). English is already provided in parenthesis. --Jiang 3 July 2005 10:15 (UTC)
    • Be that as it may, with so many nations represented, this arrangement makes it difficult for English speakers to find a particular nation, and this is the English Wikipedia. Dsmdgold July 3, 2005 12:29 (UTC)
• Support. The list is based on the official list by the Holy See, which was arranged according to French alphabetical order. To look for a particular country, the search tool of the browser can already help. — Instantnood July 3, 2005 17:58 (UTC)

• Comment Did not notice the order. Am working to sorting this out. - Ta bu shi da yu 4 July 2005 04:39 (UTC)
  • Comment: I support iff the list is according to the official order. — Instantnood July 4, 2005 07:42 (UTC)
    • Then I guess this is an oppose then. - Ta bu shi da yu 4 July 2005 07:55 (UTC)
• Comment The list no longer has French spelling, but it is still a mess with plenty of countries out of order. I would try to correct it myself but my browser is having a hard time with the article for some reason. It's a pity because this would make a great featured list, and it only needs several corrections.--Sophitus July 5, 2005 06:13 (UTC)
• Comment I suppose the list is no longer up for normination so that's why i'm just commenting. I support the list being in French alphabetical order because both the official list provided by the Vatican and the physical seating order were done according to French. The French names are to be included because otherwise it would be a confusing list to someone who doesn't know any french. There are enough mention within the article why this list is arranged this way. One wouldn't list the planets of the solar system in alphabetic order would they, or the number system alphabetically? --Kvasir 19:14, 26 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]