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editHi Nsae Comp, I replaced the article about Yang Hsiung that you started with a copyright violation notice because it was verbatim identical with the text at the external site you pointed to, which expressly reserves copyright on its homepage. I'm sorry if I'm mistaken about this. The following is the official blurb that I'm supposed to put on your talk page :-) Joriki 17:10, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
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- The same goes for Classical Friendship and Kasendi and Compadrazgo, all apparently lifted from http://www.celebratefriendship.org/gloss.htm. NickelShoe 18:39, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
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Hi there. We're having a content dispute at the article above - the list of empires has a large 216 entries, and currently the article sees fit to repeat this list 6 times! Clearly a waste of storage and bandwidth. A better solution (saving at least 30% and making it much easier to read and use) would be a table with a column for each attribute, sortable, as used in many other articles (see the discussion). However, a silent editor keeps reverting attempts to clean up the article, without explanation. Please see the discussion (currently nobody disagrees). Your comments would be welcome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.18.207 (talk) 21:18, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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I reverted your edit to Space exploration because it didn’t seem to make sense. You said “Habitability and the actual living in space is an intrinsic issue for human space exploration” which is ungrammatical and doesn’t mean anything (which is why I couldn’t fix it). And you said that it’s “often discussed along with the seperate colonialist issue of space colonization” which is a misreading of the referenced article. This WP article is about exploration, not colonisation, and the reference argues that colonisation is a misleading term because it’s not the same as “real” colonisation. That’s utterly different from what you wrote. And in any case who says that this subject is “often discussed”? Andyjsmith (talk) 22:58, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
Do me a favour if you say that "This WP article is about exploration, not colonisation", then take the first paragraph about space colonisation out, then I will not see the necessity anymore to make the point about distinguishing the issue of space exploration and space colonisation. Nsae Comp (talk) 00:21, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
PS: You said "And in any case who says that this subject is “often discussed”?" ... National Geography in the article does:"When discussing space exploration, people often invoke stories about the exploration of our own planet, like the European conquest and colonization of the Americas" ... and it does not differentiate between any "real" colonization and "?" colonization, it speaks of space exploration VS colonization Nsae Comp (talk) 00:43, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
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editThis is a jester: —David Eppstein (talk) 18:27, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- If the word "jester" is the problem, then "fool" would be an alternative, or "traveling entertainer" as a last resort. But the word used by the artist is "Gaukler" which is translated by the Cambridge Dictionary as "jester" ( https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/deutsch-englisch/gaukler ). I dont know if you are familiar with german? Please allow the source that I provided to be in the article and its content. If a sourced input is not allowed, what is? PS: this picture shows only a specific type of depiction of jesters. Nsae Comp (talk) 07:28, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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editHi, I came across this in the uncategorised articles list, and noticed it also has no references. I would normally move it automatically to drafts, but I'm trying go kick that habit, so wanted to check with you first as to what your plans are? As I'm sure you know, verifiability from reliable, independent sources is probably the no.1 most important rule on WP, and therefore unreferenced articles like this are unlikely to survive for long. I'm still happy to move this to drafts, if you think it'll take you a while to add sufficient sources; that would at least protect it against deletion. What say you? --DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:09, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for being so considerate! I will try to catch up and add some references today, they should be easy to find. Nsae Comp (talk) 14:39, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
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editI added the pictures there and added citations for them to show examples. Obviously we can't insert everything there, so I we used a minimal of examples to illutrate an image. The article has plenty of diagrams but lacks pictures as it is. Adding three more is harmless; especially when reliably sourced.--Buzles (talk) 22:16, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- An article does not need to feature fotos, just diagrams is totally fine. Afterall its an empirical issue and not one of momentous situations like traffic jams, school classes, body hygiene. And no they were not well referenced. One image was for example just croped from another image that wasnt even about what it was croped for (I marked it for deletion). And no the citation was highly flawed, no dates, no publishers, no page. ... Plus at unfitting parts of the article: e.g. image of schoolclass in the para about the history of the concept.... Nsae Comp (talk) 00:13, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
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File:Angular map of fusors around Sol within 12ly.png
editYou have Alpha Centauri as 2 light years away; it is in fact 4.5 light years away. Serendipodous 13:05, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, but I am afraid thats a misreading of the map. The distance is read at the unmarked end of the lines of the stars. Nsae Comp (talk) 04:02, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- Why is that true for some stars and not for others? Serendipodous 14:16, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- It is true for all of them, for a detailed description see the file-description. PS: Some stars have allmost no line because they are close to the reference plane. Nsae Comp (talk) 02:03, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
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editHey, apologies for accidentally reverting you on Space Race, it must have been a misclick. Incegnetty (talk) 13:10, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thats fine. All the best, Nsae Nsae Comp (talk) 17:48, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
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editHello, Nsae!
Were you aware that @JustinTime55: had submitted Space Race for GAC? I am the reviewer of record, but now my review notes are basically worthless since you've come in and made modifications. That would normally be fine, but during the formal GAC process, things are supposed to follow stricter procedures (the reviewer makes suggestions and the nominator implements/contests them).
I think I'm going to fail the GAC until the article is in stable form. I really can't work on an automobile that's being taken apart as fast as it's being assembled. It can be resubmitted when you and Justin have worked out a plan. --Neopeius (talk) 22:46, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Continuing the discussion about Sea and Ocean
editHi Nsae Comp! You'll remember the discussions we had about Sea and Ocean on various talk pages. User:Femkemilene had suggested that I centralise the discussion and that I first have it in user space, and later bring it back to the talk pages. I have now set up a page in user space for brainstorming. My plan is to invite everyone to it in a little bit but fist I wanted to show it to just 1-2 people, namely you and User:Velella. Here is the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:EMsmile/Ocean_and_sea_articles_discussion I didn't feel a need to make it into a very polished page, as it's just for brainstorming. What do you think of the options I have listed there so far? Have I missed any? Are there any pros and cons missing? Do you think this will be useful, or is there anyway no chance to ever resolve this big knot? EMsmile (talk) 02:38, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
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editfor your contributions in first images of Earth from space. fgnievinski (talk) 05:43, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
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editNice observation, FYI I added a thread pointer with the climate project talk page to try to get some additional climate eds involved. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 11:13, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. Its good to have nice editors around! Nsae Comp (talk) 17:45, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
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editI am hesitant about the appropriateness of your recent edits to Age of Sail. As I understand the term, it applies to naval history, as opposed to maritime trade. It was coined by naval historians to refer to the period in which purpose-built sailing warships armed with cannon were the principal warships of navies (and particularly European/Western navies). So that is Mary Rose (1511) through to the 1850s, when there was a rush to build or convert the main warships of the French and British navies to screw propulsion (with some notable US Navy participation in this race). Frustratingly, naval historians just about to refuse to put this definition into print, so it is very difficult to cite a source for this.
"Age of sail" appears not to be used by maritime historians for trading vessels - which is perhaps just as well, since it would be a conflicting definition with that of naval historians. The "golden age of sail" is an unrelated period which refers to the surge in technological development of sailing vessels that happened (perhaps coincidentally) after the arrival of steam power. That is things like the replacement of rope standing rigging with wire, wrought iron components for hulls (knees, beams, etc.), iron hulls, patent winches and other equipment, and better understanding of optimal routing (Matthew Fontaine Maury).
Do you have any particular knowledge or sources that help resolve the problem of defining "age of sail", a term widely used by naval historians? ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 14:23, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
- I can recommend this: [1] Nsae Comp (talk) 10:19, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- I note the reference that you have given. However, I think there is still a problem for the article. Firstly one could throw the accusation that your ref is a "reference in passing" (WP:CONTEXTMATTERS) in that "Age of Sail" is mentioned, but is not really the subject of the paper and is certainly not defined or explained. That accusation is probably a little unfair, as the ref suggests that there is a (for want of a better description) trade/exploration meaning to "Age of Sail". However, we do not seem to have any more than that. I have looked for other papers presented at the same conference, but currently without success. Whilst we have a naval historian giving us a definition of the "Age of Sail" from a naval perspective (see archived talk pages of the article), there is still no source that makes clear what is meant in a trade/exploration context - just some suggestive evidence that the term is used in this field. I feel that the sources available so far do not make clear whether this is the same term used in 2 parts of maritime history, or 2 similar that different historical labels that have the same name. Further editing of the article without getting this point cleared up by authoritative references seems a little brave to me. ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 18:26, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- [2] seems to have useful content, though I would like to see material that would be fundamental to an article in more than one source. I still have the feeling that "Age of Sail" has different definitions in military and non-military contexts - but that is something that needs to be confirmed in sources. ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 07:12, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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editI responded over on the article's talk page.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:49, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
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editRecent edits on Earth
editHi Nsae Comp, following concerns on the talk page I have restored an older version of the lead section of the Earth article. I share the concerns expressed there, particularly on readability. The previous version was not perfect by any means, but it was the result of extensive discussion during the recent featured article review. I hope that you will be able to help us improve the lead by reaching consensus on the talk page. Cheers, Mikenorton (talk) 17:35, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- A total undo is highly unfounded and very destructive to the effort that I put in it. I do agree that a discussion is needed but I did not shy away from that and did answer and attend to it and the critique raised. Nsae Comp (talk) 19:15, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
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Query about Ocean observatory
editIt strikes me that either a fixed-point ocean observatory is the primary topic for ocean observatory, in which case the redirect should be reversed; or "ocean observatory" is ambiguous and that page should either be a disambiguation page, a redirect to some page that disambiguates the term or discusses multiple meanings (maybe Ocean observations § Ocean observation sources), or should be deleted to encourage article creation. The former of these things would go to RM, and the latter to RFD, and I'm not hugely familiar with the topic myself, so I thought I'd first ask if you have any thoughts? Since generally we don't do redirects from a broader term to a narrower one. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 06:13, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Tamzin: I redirect as you recommended to Ocean observations. Makes sense, thx. Done Nsae Comp (talk) 12:59, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
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Pieces Cetus supercluster complex
editI feel responsible for this, since I was the one who initially added it to the list, but "supercluster complex" is an outdated term that hasn't been used since the early 90s, and since the discovery of Laneakea, it would appear Pieces-Cetus is falsified. That said, no one seems interested in talking about it anymore so I can't find a source saying it is. Serendipodous 16:45, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Serendipodous: Thanks, but what edit or article are you refering to? Nsae Comp (talk) 20:36, 22 April 2022 (UTC)/Nsae Comp (talk) 10:06, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
- The restoration of Pieces-Cetus to Earth's location in the universe Serendipodous 17:33, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Well as far as I am concerned the main entry is not sourced wrong and since you have no source that says it is not viewed valid anymore I would keep the entry. If you like I can take the Laniakea reference out, since it is infered by us (and anyway redundant if Laniakea is the entry before). Nsae Comp (talk) 20:32, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
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editI noticed an anon adding heights to List of lunar features (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). With these two edits the height of Mons André was set to 7.0km. It's not stated on the article nor in the single citation. A 7km high mountain with a diameter of 10km seems rather remarkable. Mons Dieter doesn't have a height on its page and the two external links don't list one. I queried the anon who said they where just copying data. Seems rather suspect. As you seem to be in the know and have worked on that page, I thought I'd drop it into your lap ask you about it. Cheers Adakiko (talk) 04:45, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I seem to also not find a source. Thanks for pinging. Nsae Comp (talk) 00:46, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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I deleted your reference to the discovery doctrine as you didn't cite a source stating that Terra Nullius is just another term for the discovery doctrine. Nor is there a discussion of this in the body of the article. Please note that the lead is meant to be a summary of the article and new information should be sourced and added to the body of the article before it is summarised in the lead. The article on the Discovery Doctrine states that Terra Nullius is just one part of the doctrine. If you can cite sources which prove they are the same thing, then the two articles will need to be merged. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 02:01, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
- I was not aware that my edit equated terra nullius with the discovery doctrine. But fair enough that it is not in the body, thus not warrented to have in the lead. Nsae Comp (talk) 22:39, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hello. I have reverted to the previous version because I think your proposed changes need discussion. I think the whole article needs a rewrite to make it more concise and clear. I would be happy to work with you to improve the article and we might be able to get others to contribute through the talk page. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 09:05, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
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- Fine with me, since my edit was about the conclusions not necessarily a discovery. Thank you for the info. Nsae Comp (talk) 14:44, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
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editHi! I was reading the article on Venus to find out who gave the planet that name and was surprised to find that there's no information on this in the article. Whereas e.g. the article on the Jupiter moon Ganymede contains an extensive section on its name and naming, the only information in the article on Venus is the minimal entry "Named after Venus" in the infobox. Browsing the version history, I found that the very first sentence used to read "is named after the Roman goddess of love and beauty" and that you first replaced this by "gaining its mainly used name from the Roman goddess of love and beauty which it is associated with" further down in the introduction (in this edit) and later deleted that text without replacement (in this edit). Since you wrote "trying without omiting content" in the edit summary, I was wondering whether you perhaps accidentally removed this part. There are some pages (e.g. here and here) that say the Romans named Venus (and four other planets). I think that information should be added to the article, but I didn’t want to interfere since you seem to be doing a lot of work on the article these days and probably have a better feel for how best to integrate this information. Joriki (talk) 17:53, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, I seem to have not realized that it is not in the body. I added now a proper para. Nsae Comp (talk) 08:04, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
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Ocean
editReally good presentation at the Ocean navbox, look nice and the information presented expanded up a notch or seven. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:18, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, I am glad! Nsae Comp (talk) 12:38, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- The only downside: I would like to make the infobox so that it works for mobile view, but I wouldnt know how. Any idea? Nsae Comp (talk) 14:01, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- The box is a navbox, which is a reputable use. I'm not the person to ask, have never made an infobox. One of the unusual things about Wikipedia viewing is that the Foundation hasn't made navboxes visible on mobile. Coding, lack of expertise, I don't know why they haven't done this. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:06, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info. Ill rais it on the talk page. thx Nsae Comp (talk) 14:11, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
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editI'm doing a clean-up of Near-Earth object, to update it & restore it to WP:GA standards. I find that back on 8 February 2022, you added four images to the section Orbital classification, each intended to show the four basic NEA orbital types. I'd like to ask for your opinion before doing anything about them, because I find them confusing and problematic, for the following reasons:
- Neither the original creator (AndrewBuck) nor the editor who made the latest versions back in 2015-6 (Rfassbind) seem to be around any more, to be asked for explanations or improvements.
- Rfassbind didn't clean up two of the images the way he did the other two (the ones for Atiras & Amors still show Martian Trojans).
- The diagrams purport to show the "general location" of these types of objects. However, the green area drawn for Atens & Apollos have sharp, arbitrary outer edges, which look like the orbit of a single asteroid, but there certainly are Atens & Apollos in the region beyond that; in fact, at least Apollos can get past Mars, even.
- In addition, the sharp outer edge for Apollos is a great source for confusion, because that edge is not an Apollo but an Amor orbit.
- Amors are shown to be most frequent near Mars's orbit, then sharply drop off at 1.1-1.2 AU. They should be frequent all the way to Earth's orbit.
- There was already another diagram in the article showing one example for each orbital class (though Atiras are missing).
I note I have unceremoniously cut some other images from the article due to low relevance, but in spite of all of the above, I'm not entirely sure that these four need to go: the extra they could bring would be showing distribution, not just orbit geometry.
So what do you think? Do you remember your original intent in adding these? Are there maybe better alternatives? Or maybe you know some other editor who is both graphically skilled & knowledgeable about astronomy who could be asked to improve upon these four images? Or replace these four and that other diagram with new, cleaner drawings of example orbits? Or just drop them? Rontombontom (talk) 20:59, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, firstly thank you for your very considerate message. Regarding the images I think the diagram you were refering to is okay but only in combination with the ones in question because the diagram describe the orbital types and the other the areas where the types are to be found.
- I agree that all these diagrams are very basic and it would be nice to provide better ones. But they are better than none, since these diagrams are in my opinion the most important images (beside the stats) of the article, because they help to describe the difficult to understand orbital spaces and types. Sincerely yours, Nsae Comp (talk) 08:47, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Well my points were to the tune that those images show the orbital spaces & types in a wrong & confusing way. In fact even worse and even more confusing, after having thought about it more. Somehow I assumed that they are based on actual known distributions which were just mangled in the processing of the images, but there is no trace of that, and even the parts not cut off are unrealistic - say there is no effect of Mars or Venus. Also, it only adds to the confusion that Earth is inserted (as are the planets) in a specific formation: the only asteroids for which that would matter are co-orbital ones.
- These images were good for Wikipedia as it was over a decade ago, but I think we should do better by now. So in the end, I made a request for a new illustration at the Graphics Lab (see at WP:GLI). I don't expect someone to volunteer quickly. Rontombontom (talk) 17:17, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- lol I just saw you also found and used that NEOs JPL site today. High five! Nsae Comp (talk) 22:27, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- It was already in the article, I just updated the access date when checking the definitions again - unlike you, I didn't notice that further down there is a public domain image that can be used. You solved this conundrum, quickly, thanks!!! I marked the graphics request (where another user proposed to take the exact same image, a day late) fulfilled. Rontombontom (talk) 17:26, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- lol I just saw you also found and used that NEOs JPL site today. High five! Nsae Comp (talk) 22:27, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
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editHi, I'd like to ask about the meaning of a paragraph you added to Moon: Human remains on the Moon, particularly of deceased humans, have been an issue of desecration of the venerated Moon. Raised by indigenous peoples at least since the first extraterrestrial space burial, the crashing of remains of Eugene Shoemaker with the Lunar Prospector probe in 1999 at the Shoemaker crater of the lunar south pole region.
Could you please rephrase this so it is clearer? — VORTEX3427 (Talk!) 09:58, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your message, but I think you solved it. Nsae Comp (talk) 22:23, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Well hello there, nice to have met you. Have you presumably as a Wikipedian heared about "assuming good faith". Reverting something and stating a guideline is one thing, but you react like I am trying to hide some crucial imagery and put my subjective personal feelings before the issue of the article. So thank you for your objection, but please leave it at that. See you at the articles discussion. Nsae Comp (talk) 22:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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Template:Fuller projection with largest islands.svg
editI noticed this. That changes the link from the article Landmass to List of islands by area#Continental landmasses. That gives two links to the same article which does not seem correct. I have changed it to point to landmass. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 19:19, 7 August 2024 (UTC)