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New Zealand Police mug shots

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There seem to have been conflicting views over whether mug shots taken by the NZ Police are public domain. (At any rate, the response I received from the NZ Police indicated that their mug shots are not freely licensed.) I raised this question here but did not get a response. Can the Admins please explain ticket:2024030110007726 ticket:2024022610012756 vs. ticket:2024021210003685? Thanks, Muzilon (talk) 02:02, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have access to the tickets but reading your posts and the deletion requests linked, I'm not sure what's going on. While the police does not claim copyright (as per Squirrel) they also say their mug shots are not freely licensed. What does that mean? If there is no clear indication the police is releasing mug shots under a free license or into the public domain, since COM:NEW ZEALAND does not state they already are, then the files should be delted and remain deleted. Bedivere (talk) 03:43, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See the discussion at Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Brenton_Tarrant.png. A contributor uploaded a NZ Police mugshot whose copyright status was questioned (by me). The uploader responded that he'd received some sort of copyright clearance from the NZ Police, which he forwarded to VRT. This "clearance" was apparently accepted by an Admin on 19-Feb-2024 - which would have set a precedent for NZ mugshots on Commons. (In the meantime I received a contrary email from the NZ Police saying their mug shots are not freely licensed.) Then on 24-Feb-2024 a different Admin deleted the mugshot with a note about "copyright violation". There have been previous cases where uploaders have asserted that NZ police mugshots are "public domain". So, perhaps Commons needs to add a definitive statement to Commons:Copyright rules by territory/New Zealand. Muzilon (talk) 04:38, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tagging User:The Squirrel Conspiracy and User:Krd, who seem to be the two Admins involved with these tickets. Muzilon (talk) 01:12, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ticket:2024030110007726 does not appear to be relevant to this case. ticket:2024022610012756 is the second ticket in this case. It specifies that the response that we received in ticket:2024021210003685 was an error, and pointed us towards the NZ PD's copyright page, which contradicted the first ticket. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 03:15, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the reply. (I have corrected the pertinent ticket number in my OP.) It seems curious that the NZ Police apparently contradicted themselves on this issue. Muzilon (talk) 04:03, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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This VRT-confirmed file is User:GiraffeWorld's COM:DERIV close redrawing of a meme image by named Twitter user Strayrogue. Under COM:DERIV, the original copyright holder must also license the underlying work for reuse.

Can somebody with VRT access confirm for me whether ticket:2019100310000707 includes confirmation that that Strayrogue licenced their work to GiraffeWorld for reuse in this particular way? Or is it just GiraffeWorld confirming that they personally drew the uploaded image? Belbury (talk) 10:36, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Belbury: It is not confirmed in the ticket the uploader is the same person as the creator of the twitter image. They appeared just using it to create this image. It was thought the image just consists of simple geomatric shapes. Ellywa (talk) 21:00, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ellywa: Thanks. So there's no suggestion that it was created with the permission of the Twitter user, just that the uploader and/or VRT reviewer felt that the original drawing of a cat was simple geometry so we didn't need to seek permission from the artist or credit them in the author field?
I'm puzzled that the image isn't actually flagged as {{PD-geometry}} - or that we haven't just used the original Twitter image! I'll take it to a deletion discussion over the "no original authorship" claim, if there's no permission here. Belbury (talk) 21:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, Could someone please review the file (listed as a screenshot) and the report on the VRT listed in the source. Thanks.  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:13, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Billinghurst: For me it shows, "This ticket does not exist, or you don't have permissions to access it in its current state". I guess the ticket is in a specific language queue. ─ Aafī (talk) 16:51, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nsaa:  ? Krd 16:57, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The [https://ticket.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom;TicketID=12798541 VRT ticket looks fine: "Med dette bekrefter jeg herved at jeg har alle rettigheter til de vedlagte bilde. Jeg lisensierer dem herved under lisensen «Creative Commons Attribution 3.0»." (Norwegian). B.r. Nsaa (talk) 21:46, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ticket #2009063010002351

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Requesting check on ticket #2009063010002351 — Does the ticket owner claim to be from Gibson Ridge Radar? A Commons patroller added it + the ticket immediately after removing a US-GOV copyright template. Basically, who claimed the ticket? The person on Twitter who posted the public-domain info, or “Gibson Ridge Radar” as stated by the patroller who added the ticket. WeatherWriter (talk) 08:18, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ticket is from 2009, last entry from 2012, and I won't say if or if not it was valid in 2009, but in any case not sufficient per today's standards. I think it shouldn't be used for new files which are not mentioned in it. --Krd 09:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Krd: This opens a bit of a can of worms as to what licensing would be correct for this file, which is a screenshot/recording of public domain data rendered using a non-free software program. I tagged the file with the ticket because it pertains specifically to screenshots from that software program, but if the ticket is insufficient the file (and potentially several others) may need deleted depending on what its actual copyright status is. Ks0stm (TCGE) 09:56, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(See also this for additional background on the issue.) Ks0stm (TCGE) 09:57, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you see any license mentioned in the ticket, or any claim who is a copyright holder of what for which reason, and/or why permission from the sender is required at all? I don't. Krd 10:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm a little confused; Are you saying that permission isn't needed for screenshots of public domain radar data rendered using non-free software programs? I would be fine with that, I just didn't think that was the case. Ks0stm (TCGE) 10:12, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not totally sure and I haven't read all discussions, but I think if a ticket is applied, it should be clear from the ticket who is the copyright holder for which reason, because otherwise they cannot give any permission.
At first impression I'd think that if nothing copyrighted is reproduced, then no permission is needed. Krd 10:19, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Discussions to read related to radar images:Commons:Village pump/Copyright/Archive/2024/05#File:Evolution of the Minden–Harlen tornado.gif (Request for clarification from EN Wiki) and Commons:Deletion requests/File:Alexander City Tornado Emergency in 2023.jpg. The deletion request was about a radar screenshot from RadarOmega, a radar application just like Gibson Ridge Radar. WeatherWriter (talk) 14:32, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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I miss the final processing here. --Subbass1 (talk) 14:13, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

? --Subbass1 (talk) 13:19, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment Ticket in permissions-de queue. --Ganímedes (talk) 23:43, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could someone on the VRT team please review this DR and the reference to a permission and comment about where we are. Thanks.  — billinghurst sDrewth 06:27, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Billinghurst: ✓ Done, Reviewed, permissions updated and DR closed. Best regards, ─ Aafī (talk) 06:44, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is an old ticket from 2015 releasing the website content under CC BY-SA 4.0 and I feel it would be better to create a template if any such other examples exists. The ticket was nicely approved by @Natuur12 back then. ─ Aafī (talk) 06:48, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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 Comment@Aafi: There are a range of templates based on cc-by-sa-4.0 visible via https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere?target=Template%3ACc-by-sa-4.0&namespace=10. The easiest way looks to be to build something with $1 usage and just put in some text about the website; or put a VRT ticket ref on top and the standard template below.  — billinghurst sDrewth 06:55, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. There is a VRT reference on one of the files mentioned in the deletion request. Could we please have a confirmation of the VRT on File:Victoria Niro.jpg and a comment on the DR. Thanks.  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:14, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Answered in the DR. --Krd 15:18, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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I want to know the whole conversation. In their site they use lower resolution, however anyone can find the high resolution version on [www-old.cev.eu]. So does the permission apply both? Elenktra (talk) 14:22, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment Ticket in permissions-it queue. --Ganímedes (talk) 23:41, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GeoJSON under OGL3.0

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Hello team I have identified a couple of datasets (GeoJSON in particular) that are currently under a Open Government Licence 3.0. These are from NatureScot and Scottish Government (SIMD datazones). Am I (as an editor) permitted to bulk upload these GeoJSON files using OpenRefine? Or would I need to contact the copyright holders first? I am then hoping to connect the data to the relevant Wikidata items for each datazone. Many thanks in advance for the assistance and advice. Drkirstyross (talk) 11:19, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Die VRT-Freigabe geht möglicherweise an der Sache vorbei: Das abfotografierte dreidimensionale und bemalte Werk könnte seinerseits urheberrechtlich geschützt sein. Dann hätten wir nach wie vor ein Copoyright-Problem. GerritR (talk) 19:59, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stimmt. Commons:Deletion requests/File:Kirawi3.JPG --Krd 05:25, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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How to report abusive comments?

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Two commentators have created delete requests for my recent video media which are both factually incorrect and abusive. How do I report these? Ctfac (talk) 09:19, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ctfac: Hi, This board is about COM:VRT requests only. You can answer in the deletion request, like you already did. I suggest that you read COM:SCOPE. Wikimedia Commons is a project hosting educational content, not for testing, and not a social media. Yann (talk) 09:25, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Please undelete File:לירן כוג'הינוף - עותק.jpg. There is VRT permission ticket:2024061310002855 for this file. Thanks Hanay (talk) 04:55, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done --Krd 07:26, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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