Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard
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This is an informal place to resolve small content disputes as part of dispute resolution. It may also be used as a tool to direct certain discussions to more appropriate forums, such as requests for comment, or other noticeboards. You can ask a question on the talk page. This is an early stop for most disputes on Wikipedia. You are not required to participate, however, the case filer must participate in all aspects of the dispute or the matter will be considered failed. Any editor may volunteer! Click this button Noticeboards should not be a substitute for talk pages. Editors are expected to have had extensive discussion on a talk page (not just through edit summaries) to work out the issues before coming to DRN.
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Title | Status | User | Time | User | Time | User | Time |
Benevolent dictatorship | Closed | Banedon (t) | 21 days, 11 hours | Robert McClenon (t) | 4 days, 17 hours | Robert McClenon (t) | 4 days, 17 hours |
Talk:Taylor Swift | Closed | Gsgdd (t) | 21 days, 4 hours | Robert McClenon (t) | 20 days, 14 hours | Robert McClenon (t) | 20 days, 14 hours |
Kylie Minogue | Closed | PHShanghai (t) | 18 days, 19 hours | Robert McClenon (t) | 11 days, 20 hours | Robert McClenon (t) | 11 days, 20 hours |
African diaspora | Closed | Kyogul (t) | 15 days, 13 hours | Robert McClenon (t) | 14 days, 14 hours | Robert McClenon (t) | 14 days, 14 hours |
Primavera Capital Group | Closed | WorldPeace888 (t) | 8 days, 8 hours | Kovcszaln6 (t) | 5 days, 6 hours | Kovcszaln6 (t) | 5 days, 6 hours |
Serbia men's national basketball team | Closed | Wikiacc321 (t) | 6 days, 18 hours | Robert McClenon (t) | 6 days, 8 hours | Robert McClenon (t) | 6 days, 8 hours |
RRR | New | SaibaK (t) | 8 hours | None | n/a | SaibaK (t) | 8 hours |
Etan Ilfeld | New | Cheburasha (t) | 2 hours | None | n/a | Cheburasha (t) | 2 hours |
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Current disputes
editBenevolent dictatorship
editClosed. The participants have started a Request for Comments. The RFC will run for thirty days, after which time formal closure should be requested. Any questions can be asked at the Teahouse or the Help Desk. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:34, 17 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Talk:Taylor Swift
editClosed as filed, as a tagging dispute rather than a true article content dispute. The issue appears to be whether to put a tag on the lede paragraph so that uninvolved wiki editors can review and contribute to fix the issue. The purpose of all content dispute resolution is to improve the encyclopedia. DRN does not handle tagging disputes, and maybe the language at the top of the page should specifically mention and exclude tagging disputes, because tagging, as such, does not improve the encyclopedia, and discussion of whether to tag an article would be more productive as discussion of whether to change and improve the article. Tagging disputes are essentially a useless distraction. If the filing editor wants to revise the lede paragraph, they can discuss that as such on the article talk page, by proposing a particular rewritten version. If there is a local consensus against the change, a Request for Comments can be used to request that uninvolved editors review the issue and contribute to fixing it, if they think it needs to be fixed. If discussion of a specific rewrite of the lede paragraph on the article talk page is lengthy and inconclusive, a new request for dispute resolution can be filed here; however, after discussion on the article talk page, an RFC is more likely to be useful than another filing here. In the meantime, resume discussion on the article talk page. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:13, 2 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Kylie Minogue
editClosed due to the lack of specific discussion here. The filing editor wishes to rework the lede paragraph and make other changes. They have been advised to attempt to make the changes, and then follow the sequence of Bold, Revert (by the other editor), No Discuss, RFC. Both editors are encouraged to discuss on the article talk page. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:22, 10 July 2024 (UTC) |
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African diaspora
editClosed for two reasons. The less important reason is that the filing editor has not notified the other editor of this filing, although they have posted a message on the user talk page of the other editor, that does not mention DRN. The more important reason is that their posting is not civil, and includes claims of vandalism. Yelling vandalism to "win" a content dispute is unfortunately common, but is not permitted. Discuss edits, not editors. Comment on content, not contributors. The editors should resume content discussion on the article talk page. If either editor thinks that discussion is not feasible due to conduct, they can file a report at WP:ANI, but should read the boomerang essay first. Resume civil discussion on the article talk page. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Primavera Capital Group
editClosed. The other editor wished to request a third opinion instead of mediation (although the dispute hasn't been listed yet). If there is still a disagreement after obtaining a third opinion, continue the discussion on the talk page, and if that is not productive, you may file another DRN request. Kovcszaln6 (talk) 07:46, 17 July 2024 (UTC) |
Closed discussion |
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Serbia men's national basketball team
editClosed due to the lack of discussion on the article talk page. Discussion on the article talk page is required prior to DRN. The discussion appears to have been by means of edit summaries, which is not real discussion. Begin discussion on the article talk page. Do not edit war. There is a request here to Warn him against further vandalism.If you have been editing Wikipedia long enough to know what vandalism is, you have been editing Wikipedia long enough to know what is not vandalism. Real vandalism may be reported at the vandalism noticeboard. Do not yell vandalism to "win" a content dispute. If discussion at the article talk page is lengthy and inconclusive, a new case request can be filed here. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:37, 16 July 2024 (UTC) |
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RRR
editHave you discussed this on a talk page?
Yes, I have discussed this issue on a talk page already.
Location of dispute
Users involved
Dispute overview
Movie RRR gathered praise from international filmmakers such as Steven Spielberg, James Cameron etc. which is highly unusual for an Indian movie. Such praise has been widely covered in media and a section was made to list the international filmmakers which praised it with detailed citations. However, some editors are deleting it again and again saying that it can't be included despite it being newsworthy and notable. We have discussed this extensively on the Talk page over the months, but the dispute continues.
How have you tried to resolve this dispute before coming here?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RRR#Inclusion_of_acclaim_by_filmmakers_for_RRR
How do you think we can help resolve the dispute?
Kindly provide comment on a) how whether or not the section contains notable information, b) is well cited or not c) should be entirely deleted or not despite being notable and well cited
Summary of dispute by Jayanthkumar123
editRRR discussion
editEtan Ilfeld
editHave you discussed this on a talk page?
Yes, I have discussed this issue on a talk page already.
Location of dispute
Users involved
- Cheburasha (talk · contribs)
- LuddWrites (talk · contribs)
- CarlNord (talk · contribs)
Dispute overview
An editor named LuddWrites inserted a subsection titled "Investments in Israeli Artificial Intelligence" to the Wiki bio page of Etan Ilfeld, with the text:
"Since late 2023,[7] Ilfield has been a venture partner at Remagine Ventures, an Israeli VC firm investing in Generative A.I. and supporting the wider "Generative A.I Landscape" of the Israeli Technology Sector.[8] Remagine, with Ilfield's investments, openly hires Israeli intelligence officers,[9] including from Unit 8200, the branch responsible for developing the A.I. systems "Lavender", "Habsora" [English: The Gospel], and "Where's Daddy", the latter of which aims to "track the targeted individuals and carry out bombings when they had entered their family’s residences".[10] Ilfield, as a partner of Remagine, co-signs their "Monthly Pulse" newsletter, which endorses the secondary newsletter Firgun, in support of the wider Israeli A.I. sector and the actions of the Israeli Defence Forces.[11]"
This text was deleted by another editor ("CarlNord") for mischaracterising Reimagine's hiring policies and Ilfeld's political beliefs. As carlNord explains (and I am inclined to agree), LuddWrites creates an indefensible association between Ilfeld and the "support of the Israeli Defence Forces" based on citations that provide no backing to such claim and, worse still, based on tenuous associations that he draws between Ilfeld and a newsletter named "Firgun". The latter not only does not support the Israeli Defence Forces but also has no connection to Ilfeld himself. Furthermore, LuddWrites' claim that Ilfeld's venture capital firm, Reimagine, "openly hires" Israeli "Intelligence Officers" is similarly backed by a citation that provides no support to such a claim. I myself have weighed in on the conversation and attempted to point out to LuddWrites all these weaknesses, but he remains undeterred and has since reposted the said paragraph.
How have you tried to resolve this dispute before coming here?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:LuddWrites#Watkins_Books_edits
How do you think we can help resolve the dispute?
I would like you to have the said paragraph removed, or at least amended to remove the evidence-free mischaracterisations of Reimagine and Etan Ilfeld contained in it.